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i dont think it really matters whether you believe in gods or "higher beeings" or not! i have friends that are christian and friends that are not and then my other friends that really dont give a ****e but the fact remains this will always lead to a heated discussion. you can have your opinion but you cannot critisize somebody elses opinion unless you would like your own attacked

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Originally posted by Timble

Can I just say that Christians are not required to do any of the things you say? We don't spend our lives trying to earn God's favour - we know that he already loves and accepts us and has paid the price for all our wrong in Jesus.

The things you mention are clearly presented in the Bible as good things to do that will enhance our lives and those of the people around us. So we do them out of love for God, and I for one enjoy doing them, and they make me feel better, safer, more purposeful. I could say that you and I waste much more than just a Sunday morning in front of the computer. And you would say "but that's different - I enjoy that and do it of my own free will". And I would say "well, how is church, bible study, giving, etc. different then?" Christianity is far from a boring study of rules or merely a hope for the future (though it has that as well!) :)

the bible does not say that you can do some things in your bible. you must do all the things in the bible. if you do not follow a strict guide line according to you narrow religion. you are not loved by god and are going else where's when you die!!!!

what sh!t!!

God does not say anything like this! he loves us reguardless of some stupid book. Fundies seem to have a very narrow veiw of god!!!!

just my $ 0.02

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i don't believe in god, definitively.

god sux my ****ing balls. :D

i don't believe in a higher power around us.

but i believe in aliens ;)

god suxx, me rules! i believe in me ;D

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Originally posted by mariusu

jees...stop promoting islam here people!!!!

jees...stop promoting stupidity here people!!!!

what your problem with islam buddy. are you a closet racist, a bigot?

what if i said i was islam will you take you sh!t somewhere's else. i cant stand self centered christians or closet bigots

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Lots of micro-evolution results into macro-evolution

Prove it. Bring me your dissertation on how this comes about. I bet you a dollar you can't prove macro-evolution as fact.

SMART ASS ALERT!!!!

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I think it's more a matter of logic than prove. If something keeps micro-evolving, as a result over longterm, some other species results out of it. If you don't agree I dont care, coz...

Note to self: Never ever respond to such threads.

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Originally posted by tarrooka

What Is Islam?

The word, ?Islam? means ?Submission to God?; it also means ?Peace?.

Islam is the religion decreed for mankind by God, Who revealed it to His prophets; and they in turn, taught it to the people around them.

As the Religion of God, it implies ?the Peace that a person can attain in this life and in the hereafter, by submitting his whole self to God?.

From the beginning of mankind, God sent revelations with His chosen prophets.

The first prophet was the first man, Adam, peace be upon him, and he was a Muslim, (i.e, one who accepted Islam; or one who submitted his whole self to God), as were all other prophets of God. They were all Muslims.

Islam means ?Complete and Unconditional Submission to Allah (God)?

* Who Is Allah?

Allah is the Arabic word for the One and Only God, Who is the Creator and Sustainer of the whole universe and everything in it.

This means that Allah is not just the God of the Muslims, but of the whole of creation; He is the God of the Christians, the Jews, the Hindus and even of those who deny His existence.

The Holy Qur'an says: "Say: He is Allah, the One; the Self Subsisting. He doesn't beget; nor is He begotten. There is nothing (or no one) like Him."

* Who Was Muhammad?

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last of God?s prophets. God revealed messages to him to guide mankind to a life of obedience to God.

He was born to a noble family of Makkah (Mecca) in Arabia in the year 570 CE.

When he was 40 years of age, the Angel Gabriel appeared to him and revealed the first verses of the Qur?an. He received further revelations from God on many occasions in his life until his death at the age of 63.

In the light of this Guidance from God, he preached Islam and many who were worshipping the false gods of the Arab tribes became Muslims. These early adherents of Islam were brutally persecuted by the tribal leaders of Makkah: the name of their tribe was Quraysh.

Muhammad (peace be upon him) had to emigrate with the Muslims to Madinah, a city about 250 miles to the north of Makkah. The people of Madinah were more tolerant and they gradually accepted Islam. It was from this town that Islam spread to other parts of Arabia.

* Is Islam?s God an Angry or Vengeful God?

No, not at all. This is a complete misunderstanding.

Every chapter in the the Holy Qur?an begins with the sentence, ?In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Merciful?. And it is with the same formula that a Muslim should begin every activity, be it taking food, starting a business etc.

The Qur?an gives so many epithets to God, like Forgiving, Kind, Loving, Compassionate, Merciful and so on. From the Islamic point of view, God is the All Merciful Creator and Sustainer of the whole universe. Besides, He has given us His Guidance too, to lead us out of darkness into light.

* Were There Other Prophets?

Certainly.

The Holy Qur?an, which is the Muslim Scripture revealed to Muhammad, the Last Prophet of God (peace be on him), clearly states that from the beginning of mankind on the face of the earth, God had been sending prophets to guide the people who lived in different lands in different periods of history.

These prophets taught their people basically the same religion; because they were teaching just those ideas and principles which they received from the One and Only God through revelation.

* What is the Muslim Belief about Other Religions?

Since all the great religions were originally taught by God?s own chosen prophets, they had to be the same basic message. We do see differences, however, between them and we have to examine how this happened.

After the time of every prophet, his teachings were either forgotten or distorted. Also, as a result of the changed circumstances of later times, newer and newer interpretations were introduced into the religion and gradually the essential message was polluted.

This was the reason for the existence of a plurality of religions, in the place of the single Religion of God which all the prophets taught.

* Has Islam Any Special Relation with Judaism and Christianity?

Judaism was originally the religion taught by Prophet Moses or Musa (peace be on him). Christianity in its origin was taught by Prophet Jesus or `Eesa (peace be on him). Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the only prophet to come after Jesus.

Chronologically as well as historically the religion closest to Islam is Christianity and then Judaism. Many of the religious concepts of these two religions bear a close resemblance to those of Islam. These three religions are called the Semitic Religions.

* What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?

Like Christians, Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously without a father. But unlike Christians, Muslims do not take him to be God or the Son of God.

Jesus was a man and a prophet. It is true that he has performed many miracles; there were others who worked miracles. But a miracle-worker does not become a God on that account, or even a prophet. Jesus said words to this effect. (See Mark 13:22: ?For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect?).

The Qur'an, which is the Muslim Scripture God revealed to Muhammad (peace be on him) says, that Jesus performed many miracles by the help of God. In fact, these miracles were meant to prove to the people around him that Jesus was a Messenger of God. Jesus said so while restoring a dead man to life. (See John 11: 41-44 where Jesus says to God that he prayed to revive Lazarus in order to prove to the people that he was sent to the world by God, or in Islamic parlance that He was a Messenger of God).

Anyone who holds that Jesus is God has to explain so many categorical statements in the Gospels like these: That Jesus prayed to God; that he wept; that the first commandment is the Jewish Shema (that God is Only One) and so on and so forth.

So, the Muslim belief about Jesus is well attested by the Gospels themselves.

* What Happens after Death?

At the time of death, a person?s soul is separated from his body and the body is buried. It decompses and becomes one with the dust whereas the soul lives on, but passive in a state of sleep until they are resurrected on the Day of Judgement.

* What is Meant by the Day of Judgement?

The Day of Judgement comes after the End of all the days here in our earthly life.

The Day of Judgement is the occasion when all the souls of all the persons who lived here are resurrected with their bodies and are gathered together for Judgement.

On that day, every soul will be given what it deserves. That is to say, all those who believed and did good deeds will enter Paradise to enjoy Eternal Bliss. Those who rejected God and His Guidance will be sent to Hell, to undergo Eternal Torment.

* Why Should There Be a Hell?

God says in the Holy Qur?an that His Mercy transcends and outreaches all His other qualities, but at the same time He is Just.

We read in the Holy Qur?an a verse which should make us think: ?Are the rightly guided equal to the misguided?? Certainly not. Are those who exploit and oppress God?s righteous servants equal to those who strive and sacrifice in His Way?

If God is indifferent to the beliefs and actions of both the good and the bad alike, where is His Justice? To balance His Providence and to fulfil His Justice, there has to be a Hell as there has to be a Heaven. That is quite in the interest of Divine Justice as well as of the natural justice we usually speak of.

* What Is the Islamic View of Man?

From the Islamic point of view, man is the highest of God?s creations; and in fact God created the earth and everything in it for the benefit of man.

God says in the Holy Qur?an that man is God?s vicegerent or deputy on earth. This means that He has bestowed upon man not only spiritual, moral and intellectual capabilities, but also freedom within limits.

It is noteworthy that if God gave man all the intellectual qualities and no freedom, then those qualities would be useless. Similarly, if God gave man freedom and no reasoning power, his freedom would be entirely disastrous. This is because freedom always entails responsibility.

As God has created the earth and everything for the use of man, God says that man should use these gifts responsibly.

In teaching humankind a sense of responsibility, God sent His prophets with Guidance. When man listens to the prophets and shows sufficient wisdom to follow God?s Guidance, his life yields the best results. If man is irresponsible and ignores God?s Guidance and follows his own whims and fancies, his life becomes useless or quite opposed to God?s scheme of things.

* What Is the Purpose of Human Life?

God says in the Holy Qur?an that He created man as His vicegerent or deputy on earth. He says that He created the earth and everything in it for the sake of man. Also man is endowed with reason and all other related faculties. He is given freedom within limits.

God?s Purpose of human creation is to reward those who show gratitude to him by submitting to His Will. We know about His Will from the Holy Qur?an and from the exemplary life of His Prophet, Muhammad (peace be on him).

We have to learn God?s commands and prohibitions and follow His Prophet to do the duties entrusted to us as God?s representatives on earth. That is to say, his reward will be for those who fulfil the entrusted responsibility placed on them; namely, that we have to make use of God?s blessings in accordance with the limits set by God, for the benefit of our spiritual and worldly progress at the individual level as well as at the societal level.

The Purpose of Life therefore is to attain the best of this world and of the other world; and that will be possible only if we discipline our lives to fit in with God?s way. ill be possible only if we discipline our lives to fit in with God?s way.

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Originally posted by werejag

jees...stop promoting stupidity here people!!!!

what your problem with islam buddy. are you a closet racist, a bigot?

what if i said i was islam will you take you sh!t somewhere's else. i cant stand self centered christians or closet bigots

FOR werejag: don't even try to flame me! shut the ****off!

i'm not stupid and i'm not a racist, i'm also not a fanatic christian! the only thing i was trying to say was that people should STOP PROMOTING islam here.

this thread is called: do you believe in god? and not islam is cool...come on over! is this clear enough for you?

this thread has already so many replies, but if you look on the pages before you will probably see that there are some people who acutally say the same thing, promoting islam and having extra-long posts with the islam story, q&a about islam and so on!

now, to be clear, i have nothing against them or their religion! but stop trying to explain me how good the islam is! i'm not interested! neither i nor other users have asked for this!

just stick to the topic of the thread!!!!

:devious: :devious:

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Originally posted by mariusu

FOR werejag: don't even try to flame me! shut the ****off!

i'm not stupid and i'm not a racist, i'm also not a fanatic christian! the only thing i was trying to say was that people should STOP PROMOTING islam here.

this thread is called: do you believe in god? and not islam is cool...come on over! is this clear enough for you?

this thread has already so many replies, but if you look on the pages before you will probably see that there are some people who acutally say the same thing, promoting islam and having extra-long posts with the islam story, q&a about islam and so on!

now, to be clear, i have nothing against them or their religion! but stop trying to explain me how good the islam is! i'm not interested! neither i nor other users have asked for this!

just stick to the topic of the thread!!!!

:devious: :devious:

if you are not a racist then why so much hatered for islam?? if you truely do not find interest do not read the posts. i did not see you complain about christian posts, so youare one sided christain fundie leaning!!!

just becuase you did not ask for it does not mean you will not get it buddy!!!

is that clear buddy. racisim is racism buddy, sugar coating it if you want, but racism is what it is!!!!

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Well, it looks like they've finally shown up.

That's right kids, the moronic atheists and the zealous herd have started up again.

Ah well. Let the Islamic and Christian worship a book and tell everybody what rules need to be followed and facts need to be believed, and never once encourage you to actually understand the religion.

And let the atheists prove their oh-so-supreme intelligence by prancing around, declaring how god sucks their nuts.

Meanwhile, I'll sit here being one of the few who doesn't think what rules the universe is conscious at all, let alone a deity. I'll just sit here, listening to more proof that the vast majority of people are entirely incapable of philosophy and considering different perspectives. I'll listen to the Muslims sucking up to Allah, and the Christians saying that they can sin all they want because Jesus died and God loves them, and the atheists running around saying they believe in themselves and their Sprite philosophy.

Poit.

Oh, not that I'm depressed about it or anything. :D I'm just a little disappointed by how the atheists ignore everything anybody says so that they can hang on to their lazy angsty lifestyle, and the Christians ignore everything so they don't have to think the interpretation they absorbed from their minister might be wrong, and the Muslims ignore everything because Allah is mighty and supreme and the Koran r0xx0rz j00r b0xx0rz. But I have other places to go when I want to get better exercise for my mind. This is just a techie dweeb forum, after all. :]

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Originally posted by Joshie

Well, it looks like they've finally shown up.

That's right kids, the moronic atheists and the zealous herd have started up again.

Ah well. Let the Islamic and Christian worship a book and tell everybody what rules need to be followed and facts need to be believed, and never once encourage you to actually understand the religion.

And let the atheists prove their oh-so-supreme intelligence by prancing around, declaring how god sucks their nuts.

Meanwhile, I'll sit here being one of the few who doesn't think what rules the universe is conscious at all, let alone a deity. I'll just sit here, listening to more proof that the vast majority of people are entirely incapable of philosophy and considering different perspectives. I'll listen to the Muslims telling sucking up to Allah, and the Christians saying that they can sin all they want because Jesus died and God loves them, and the atheists running around saying they believe in themselves and their Sprite philosophy.

Poit.

Oh, not that I'm depressed about it or anything. :D I'm just a little disappointed by how the atheists ignore everything anybody says so that they can hang on to their lazy angsty lifestyle, and the Christians ignore everything so they don't have to think the interpretation they absorbed from their minister might be wrong, and the Muslims ignore everything because Allah is mighty and supreme and the Koran r0xx0rz j00r b0xx0rz. But I have other places to go when I want to get better exercise for my mind. This is just a techie dweeb forum, after all. :]

da mn i like that!!!!let's close this poor stupid thread

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Originally posted by werejag

if you are not a racist then why so much hatered for islam?? if you truely do not find interest do not read the posts. i did not see you complain about christian posts, so youare one sided christain fundie leaning!!!

just becuase you did not ask for it does not mean you will not get it buddy!!!

is that clear buddy. racisim is racism buddy, sugar coating it if you want, but racism is what it is!!!!

maybe you're right! maybe i shouldn't read you stupid and one-sided comments!

i said what i said and i'll back it up every time you want it!

as i already said: im'm not a racist! why are you calling me racist? have i said: **** islam, islam go to ***? no! i haven't said it and i don't mean it, but it looks like you're only at flaming today, "buddy"

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Originally posted by werejag

does it hurt to be called what you are!!!!!!!

what am i in your biassed opinion?

you're probably the type of guy who sees only racists around him, buddy...

i've heard enough of you for today and for a long time coming, so i would say this is the last post from me dealing with you!

POINT!:devious:

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Originally posted by mariusu

what am i in your biassed opinion?

you're probably the type of guy who sees only racists around him, buddy...

i've heard enough of you for today and for a long time coming, so i would say this is the last post when i'm dealing with you!

POINT!:devious:

well the only way you stop hearing me is to take your racist anti islamic urse out of my face. a racist never deals with their hatred

look all i have been saying is that just do not pick on the islam religion pick on all religions!!!! to do only islam means your a racist

POINT MADE!:devious:

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All religions have their own belives. No one should judge another ones religion. There are no right and wrong religions.

I see some trouble heading.

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Mr magoo: i havent contributed to this thread in anyway shape or form just watched it progress(or not), but its amazing how people can get so easily angered by someones comments or views; for me religion is something that is personal to me- i dont need to justify what i believe in - and neither do you: you should be secure about your religion, and whatever god you believe in whether it be allah or a christian god. Its a pitty that a good debate has had to be brought to a close in this fashion.

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