semifamous Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 For those who don't want to read biased information, do not click the link below. It is a collection of quotes from the Bible which show how "advanced" some of the scientific stuff in the Bible really was. Even the Bible says that the world is round... before Christ. http://www.parentalguide.com/Documents/Bib...nd_Universe.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elduderino Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Where is the 'scientific' case against evolution? Hear say and religious opinions don't count as science, so far as I know. The cool thing about science and those who understand it, is that it doesn't claim to know everything and there is still a lot of things to be explained. Religion relies on people accepting that everything is the way it is, cos god made that way, wow how clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifamous Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 You are right. My post is slighty off-topic. It has nothing to do with evolution. All I was trying to do is to get everyone to shut up about the whole "World is flat" thing that everyone wants to talk about which also has nothing to do with this. "1500 years ago, everybody knew that Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that Earth was flat and 15 minutes ago you knew humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow..." ~Agent K, Men In Black (Yes, I know it's fiction...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Problem with that quote from MIB is that the screenwriter was a dumbass, it's the way around. 1500 -> Not Flat, 500 -> Not Center. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FX- Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Well this is how I have come to accept evolution as the mechanical workings of life, and creationism as the philosophy as the origin, NOT PROCESS, of life in this universe. The big bang theory is circled around the idea that in the beginning of time and matter, there was a point of singularity. Now, the key to existence, life, and time itself, is energy. Energy is the driving force behind everything, and as we understand it, can not be made, nor destroyed; but only transferred from one form of existence, to another. If you look at the universe like a cone cup, the root behind everything is an infinite amount of energy in its PUREST FORM. So it is my only personal opinion that this infinite energy, which is the root behind thought, the root behind process, the root behind existence, the root behind life, death, light, water, this in itself is a self containing existence that can only be understood through the humans eyes as one of us. Since we are so simple, to relate to such complex and infinite understanding is impossible in our form of energy, and when we die, our life does not disappear, but is only transferred into another existence, as part of the circle of infinite energy. (Or was some would like to call it, heaven) So in the end, evolution has nothing to do with creationism, there not even on the same plane. If anybody knows what say'n give this thread a holla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by Tom Servo Yup, maybe there is just no reason at all why you're here. Do you feel useless if this would be the case? The only meaning to life is what you give to it. One can only live life to the best way they know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest whybkuul Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Oh jesus tapdancing christ, do we REALLY need a THIRD thread started about this ****?!? GIVE IT UP ALREADY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by JimF Then don't call it science then. And don't use my tax $$$ to teach this stuff in schools as a proven a fact. Maybe you should spend your money on getting some professional mental help? You really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluggz Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 lol, whybkuul, i was gonna say the same thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOS482 Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by JimF Creation has nothing to do with the Bible. Even without it a normal rational human being should be able to figure out that somebody had to create this world. Things don't just happen out of the blue. Who created the creator? Afterall things just don't happen out of the blue, as you just stated. A normal rational human being doesn't waste their time in such nonsensical questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Seb Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 He prolly needed to reply and accidentally clicked new thread, dont bite his head off. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john smith 1924 Veteran Posted April 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 18, 2002 merged... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Originally posted by NOS482 Who created the creator? Afterall things just don't happen out of the blue, as you just stated. A normal rational human being doesn't waste their time in such nonsensical questions. This is why I'm all for saying that no creator-figure can be a conscious being. I define the 'Creator' as the order of the universe. The system, the way it all works. The instincts and tendencies of lifeforms and influences and interactions of non-lifeforms. Everything builds on each other and makes new things, growing or shrinking, breaking down or putting together. Hell, I'm so turned off by the idea of a conscious Creator figure, that I'm more likely to believe Sitchin's theories of creation (Nibiru, genetic alterations, etc) than pop-Christian theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thuggers Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 its a little hard to fight over evolution when 3/4 of the people who are debating don't even understand it.... atleast scientists read religious theories on creationism and don't just toss it out the window.. Evolution is when a genetic trait is gained through adaption is passed on to their offspring geneticly. Lotsa people seem to be dismissing evolution as impossible to to the lack of "evidence" I assure that if scientist were given as much time as religious fanatics have had to manufacture the creationists dream there would a lot of proof that evolution does exist. the thought that a 200 year period of viewing life on earth to judge weather evolution occurs or not is insane... especially when the earth is billions of years old. its like trying to judge the intelligence of humans from a single person living in chinatown newyork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted April 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 18, 2002 ok, enough of these threads. we only need one. anyone starting a new one gets a warning. NO EXCEPTIONS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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