Silvorgold Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 i know this is offtopic n will cause lots of flaming but as the ? says, how do u feel bout that? i'm basically furious since the air pilots were basically were gived instructions to not fire the missile, but they did anyways, but then again i heard they did that just incase or something n it was an accident, this is the first time in 50 years a canadian soldier has been killed in a war (since the korean war) i hope the ppl who are injured n being taken care of right now in germany are alright n i feel sorry for the familes who lost their love ones/relatives in the accident -G0LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconman Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Very Sad... :disappoin **sings O, Canada** God Bless :sleeping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravel5839 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 another reason why wars suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YahoKa Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I feel sorry for the families :disappoin . This is the unfortuneate reality of war that friendlies get KIA. I think the US gov. should give the families some financial aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted April 19, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2002 i think it's a tragic event, like when anyone dies. I just hope the military takes some responsibility and does something to help the families of the victims... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvorgold Posted April 19, 2002 Author Share Posted April 19, 2002 its weird how canadians get made fun of americans constantly (on tv n americans (or some americans)) say rude comments about canada that arent true... canadas always there for the us, if it were up to the canadian gov, they would have never went into afghanistan, but they are #1 buds with the US. some members of the local army base were sent into afghanistan n another force of the princess patricia *forgets name* force is in afghanistan, i hope this doesnt happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Specs Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 It sucks bigtime! It should not have happened! I hope there is something the US will do about it. If not... then why we over there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Thought silv0r would ask this question :p Canada is mad. This was the news today. I find it rather absurd how many casualties there have been resulting from friendly fire. :ermm: Possibly even more than from enemy fire. America has lost men all along, and now we have lost men. It's sad :sleeping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalibutStu Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 it is very sad and as a Canadian i'm not to happy 'bout it. however these things happen. how many times has American troops killed their own in these types of accidents? friendly fire, sad but true, happens in a war. unfortunatly Canadians got it this time.... i'm madder about issues like the soft wood lumber terrifs! America is not always kind to their neighbours. i actualy see the country as a school yard bully in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I feel furious about the deaths, friendly fire casualties were more than battle casualties in Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Yes, friendly fire is expected in war... BUT.... considering how advanced the military is nowadays, it should not be that frequent. I mean, this one is just crazy. An F16 with LASER guided missle, with instructions by the control comm... flying over TRAINING ground? I mean from bullets in the battlefield, ok. But this is absurd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elduderino Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Its a tragedy, made all the more worse that they were bombed by our own side. Lets hope the seriously injured lads pull through. The thing that is most annoying about this accident, is that the air national guard was to blame. Why was the air national guard out there when they are a part time force, they should only be called upon when there are low numbers of full time air force pilots. Its like sending the national guard, or as we have it in the UK Territorial Army (TA), to a war zone as a fighting force at the start of a conflict. The TA would be introduced slowly into a combat theatre (usually 6 months), only if replacement soldiers aren't getting through quick enough. The point I'm trying to make, in a long winded way, is that only the best trained need apply. The US inflicted the first casualties of the war, during the first troop engagement, to friendly fire. Daft term friendly fire, theres nothing friendly about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Yes its sad, but hey, they are in the military, their job was to protect and have their lives at risk. I really don't see why the Canadians are so upset really. I read where it was their first casualties since the Korean War so I see where they may not be use that. Any loss of life is tragic. When you are in the military, its part of the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elduderino Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 And a little less eagerness to shoot things, would help. Its quite possibly the worst way to die in the forces, during training and to be killed by your own side. In a combat situation to be killed, doing your duty is not a terrible loss compared to being killed by men of your own side who you are fighting with and protecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 i think its pretty bad considering its not even our war.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 A lot of the ppl in the national guard be it army, navy, airforce, whatever are retired military so they are more trained then the younger 20 year old kids outta college that fly the planes now a days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bant Veteran Posted April 19, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2002 its everybodies war. im not one of those americans thats gonna say, oh you silly canadians, if we werent here, youd be nothing. because thats bull. but im also not going to say oh canada your the perfect country. nobodies perfect. we benefit from eachother very much. anyway, i have much remorse for anybody that dies in a war. goodguy or badguy.... it sucks that they had to die, even if i hate them. im an "american".... but more importantly im human. i have no prejudices against any other human, no matter where they may reside. i have nothing against canadians, never made fun of yall in my life =p i dont see how getting mad at the "us" for this is really even fair. i just live here. and no i didnt vote for bush either =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted April 19, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2002 Another casualities...and another human error that this incident happened...but I feel sorry for the families of the dead soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarBUCKs Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 First off, Canadians aren't fighting a war. They are merely Peace Keepers in a hostile environment. Secondly, accidents do happen in realtime live fire training exercises. This is merely another factor of war. The men (and women?) sent over there all joined the military knowing the risks that they would be taking. Lastly, I figure that the Canadian families will be well taken care of from now on. It is hard to lose a family member but the US will make sure they can do everything in there power for these people. Last time I checked I don't hear any of the Japanese people complaining about the USS Greenville hitting the Fishing boat. WarBUCKs US Navy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menace inc Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 As a Canadian, I feel very sad. These friendly fire casualties are getting out of control in the US army. Too much hi-tech stuff and human soldiers died for nothing. As a soldier, it's honor/better to die in fighting the enemy for his courntry than these stupid friendly fires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menace inc Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Not very true if you can read Japanese, not CNN. Originally posted by WarBUCKs Last time I checked I don't hear any of the Japanese people complaining about the USS Greenville hitting the Fishing boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 The worst part of this is that it wasn't friendly fire, it was a rogue idiot ignoring orders. See here for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icie Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 I don't remember seeing these furious emotions when the chinese pilot died a year or two back...! No matter who dies, they are still humans, and we should feel sorry, regardless if they are Canadians, Americans, Chinese, Afghans, etc. Wars are meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 thats what you get when you put a bunch of weekend warriors in hightech killing machines. the us army is supposed to be so good but as far as i can tell they are good at killing their allies and themselves (gulf war). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devin2002 Posted April 19, 2002 Share Posted April 19, 2002 Originally posted by twist thats what you get when you put a bunch of weekend warriors in hightech killing machines. the us army is supposed to be so good but as far as i can tell they are good at killing their allies and themselves (gulf war). *****I don't have an account here, so my son let me use his after showing me this.***** A. It was the Air Force, our Army has no planes. B. The pilots were never informed of a training site. C. During a flight over hostile ground a pilot must make his own final call. (this means when he found out about it being Canadians, I'm sure it ate him up real well) D. Crap like this will always happen as long as there is a human factor in combat. E. Don't say crap unless you have lived it! The problem with most reporters and civilians is they have no friggen clue about what goes on in combat. I bet you anything the fellow soldiers were upset that it happened but I guarantee the Canadian soldiers have no ill will towards ours. Being killed by a friend is not as bad as by an enemy. For a friend will feel remorse, and an enemy feels pride. Lt Col. Robert Halenn (U.S.A.F Ret.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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