My Opinion (Agree or Not?)


  

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  1. 1. My Opinion (Agree or Not?)

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MODs do not delete this

What has free speech come to these days? We come to a forum(hum which one?) and we get moderated for stating our opinions or for trying to help the community. The point of public forums is for people to say what they think and get responses, or ask for help if they need something. Also, for the people asking for changes and asking for better moderation, they are giving you a clue on what you need to do, why get mad at them! I would thank them for supporting me and trying to keep the loyal visitors. For the life of me, why would a certain moderator be so angry at me for trying to provide a public service to off the load from their servers!

Neowin has certainly changed from the early start, when I came here last summer (I was a mod), it was a really nice place to be where people could state their minds, however it changed, I was cut off by a certain moderator because I went against how he said Windows XP was really good, and I said it still needed a little work, in the fact of that it would not go into standby, I was contacted personally because I went against his opinion and should console with him before I state a opinion that goes against what he thinks.

On a final note, I believe the point of forums is to have people state their opinions no matter how contrasting they are, and should not be shunned away because of it.

Do you agree with me or not (feel free to post opinions! :))

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agreed but i think that threads that cause nothing but an expression of opinions in flames should be altogether avoided. opinions are great to have but not if they start massive flames where everyone gets hyped up bout one little thing they believe in.

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You know, all it is is the "power" going to people's heads.

I've seen it happen in more than one forum. In fact, I discontinued my posting in one forum mostly because of the Naziesque behaviour that the mods had taken on.

If they personally didn't like something, then it was gone. Doesn't matter if what you posted was WELL within the rules stated.

So yeah. Get used to it. Not just in online forums either.

God forbid we say what we think and that our opinion differ from those in charge...

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Well, if this guy tried to silence you or control what you say just because you differed in opinion then , no question. But the fact is that this is website is not publicly owned, so they can censor whatever the hell they want. Of course, if they really become then no one will bother participating in the forums, so it's not really in their interests to do so...

Please don't critisize people.

<< iconman >>

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I agree to an extent with what you are saying and can sympathise however it is expected of all staff that they remain neutral in their opinions. Our personal opinions must take a back seat whilst on the job so its hard for me to understand why a moderator would cut you off as you so claim. Threads are locked or posts are censored because we believe them to be in violation of community rules. If for some reason you feel you have been treated unfairly then contact the mod in question and state your case. It is not necessary to start a thread about this.

Recently alot of threads have been started simply for the purpose of creating flamewars. This is not acceptable and they will be locked/moved/ or deleted on sight. Try to understand that neowin is much larger than it was last summer, and the consequences of this are that we get alot more posts per day and therefore this equates to alot more work for staff. Alot goes on here that you guys are not even aware of. We have troublemakers registering under multiple nicks daily which we have to be watchful of. We get users abusing the report features, we get members being harassed, all of this you dont see.

Do not come in here throwing your weight around and telling us that we are "nazi"s in the way we moderate. We act in what we feel are the best interests for the community as a whole. If for some reason you believe you are being singled out, then contact the moderator in question, or an admin.

~keldyn - neowin.net

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forums are like high school. you can generally do whatever you want, but understand that you are part of a community and as such you can't expect there to be total freedom. you have to abide by the rules that are set in place, and if you don't like it, the moderators have a choice to either end the discussion or ban you.

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Originally posted by Keldyn

Do not come in here throwing your weight around and telling us that we are "nazi"s in the way we moderate. We act in what we feel are the best interests for the community as a whole. If for some reason you believe you are being singled out, then contact the moderator in question, or an admin.

~keldyn - neowin.net

Just FYI, I wasn't saying mods here were acting Naziesque, but others on a diff forum (and trust me, when I left, I publicly criticized them and a few others... it was quite amusing :) people even IM'ed me afterwards and congratulated me on such an amazing exit). Heh. Just want to make sure that's clear though. During my time here, things have been quite good aside from one incident. But I digress...

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ab1225,

It seems to me that you are upset with "a certain moderator" or his decision to lock a thread. Take it up with that "certain moderator". ;)

One more thing - there are rules. If you break them, your posts will be edited or removed. It is really very simple, obey the rules and browse along happily. :)

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I agree with Keldyn. (Btw - Hope you feel better)

Also, Neowin is a place for people to join and talk about tech related stuff. Its a place where people come to solve their computer problems. Not getting into huge flame wars about Religion, Creationism, Evolution, Race, Volience, War, and other things that are happening in the World. I have been comming to NeoWin since July, and decided to become a member in November. In late feb thru march I almost left NeoWin because the topic and thread moved off of a computer subject and became just general rants, flames and agruments. And do you know what most of the commotion was about??? The things that were stated above such as Religion, Creationism, Evolution, Race, Volience and war. But since the mods have tuffend up alot and are enforcing the rules more... NeoWin is comming back to a better state. And you have NO right to say stuff about free speech. This is NOT your site. You don't moderate and keep it running. You don't work hard to keep threads clean. What ever the admin's and mods say go. You have no right to say other wise.

NeoWin should be a place where people can get together and talk about computers, software, hardware, graphics, visual styles, etc... Not about if you belive in god, or think the world is comming to an end. The internet has plenty of places where you can do that instead. Go to Yahoo and type Internet Religon Boards, or Evolution Community or something.

Great job admins and mods... keep up the great work

- ShOcKz1104

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Originally posted by ab1225

no not to lock a thread but toDE-MOD me is a little to far for disagreeing peacfully with him :) hmm his name starts with neo....

ohhh playin with fire ad1225...dont start mod hating and i suggest we leave this as it is and not point names cuz someone was at a disagreement.

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Originally posted by ab1225

The moderators here at neowin have let the power run to their heads, and look they even need to mess with the poll! and forge it.

mess with the poll? maybe people don't agree with you? maybe someone has a different opinion?

as for you ftp situation, which this is obviously about, go ahead, make an ftp, but neowin will not endorse it. we don't want to have to worry about the content of something not directly controlled by us. We're covering our butts so we don't get sued or shutdown by a company that found a leaked version of their software on some site out of our control. I run an ftp, but I don't make ANY claim to it being a Neowin ftp. I just advertised it on here, and that's the only connection that remains. If someone from another forum wants to use it, go ahead, I'm not making it exclusive to neowin members thereby increasing neowin's liability...

My advice: We're not going to endorse it, so just give up the arguement. We're not out to lose membership, especially a long time member like you, over something that doesn't need to be an issue.

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Originally posted by ab1225

no not to lock a thread but toDE-MOD me is a little to far for disagreeing peacfully with him :) hmm his name starts with neo....

Locked

As I thought, you do have a problem with "a certain moderator" - settle it between the two of you.

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Originally posted by ShOcKz1104

NeoWin should be a place where people can get together and talk about computers, software, hardware, graphics, visual styles, etc... Not about if you belive in god, or think the world is comming to an end. The internet has plenty of places where you can do that instead. Go to Yahoo and type Internet Religon Boards, or Evolution Community or something.

Great job admins and mods... keep up the great work

- ShOcKz1104

Exactly, That's what Neowin is about

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Originally posted by ab1225

The moderators here at neowin have let the power run to their heads, and look they even need to mess with the poll! and forge it.

abba- please fod -you have really pushed your luck. The mods around here do not have to take this kind of crap from you.

You were repeatedly warned by several moderators about your situation - if you had performed a few simple changes then this would never have happened. you have got your commupance - and you deserve it. Its a pitty : shifty and you i get the impression put alot of work into the ftp; silly silly boy.

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