The Great Shroud of Turin Dating Fraud of 1988


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Nick_Jones: What's wrong with having a healthy discussion ? Or are you afraid of something ? Why is it that some people want to censor free speech ? Aren't you guys supposed to be tolerant and open minded and we "religious extremists" intolerant bigots ? Now I really see who is what.

I believe it's important that people see the opposing views also.

I can almost guarantee you won't see stuff that I just posted in the mainstream media outlets.

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JimF: While i can appreciate your commitment to your chosen beliefs and ideals, what i do not agree with is the way in which you so recklessly preach them on our boards. Religious discussion, ideally, is not suited to a place such as neowin.net. I am certain you can find more suitable places, to indulge in religious discussion on the web, and where it wil also be welcomed. All you are doing is inciting flamewars here. People do not like to have ideas and beliefs forced upon them. You need to understand that everyone has their own individual beliefs and ideas. You cannot, change them. They are not necessarily wrong, you are not necessarily wrong. You may not agree with other members points of view, but just so long as you can see the situation from their perspective then you are being fair. In this instance, i feel you are not. I ask that you refrain from such postings in the future.

~Keldyn - neowin.net

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NETknightX:

Yes, I saw that the other day. From what I got, the tests were ruled inacurate by religous figures because the scientists were only given one sample to test. The evil scientist wanted (I think) 8 samples but were only given one, So when the tests revealed from one sample that it was from 1200, it was called a fraud.

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Originally posted by JimF  

Nick_Jones: What's wrong with having a healthy discussion ? Or are you afraid of something ? Why is it that some people want to censor free speech ? Aren't you guys supposed to be tolerant and open minded and we "religious extremists" intolerant bigots ? Now I really see who is what.

I believe it's important that people see the opposing views also.

I can almost guarantee you won't see stuff that I just posted in the mainstream media outlets.

You believe its important that we see the opposing views? You've been cramming them down our throats for the past weeks! And why is it whenever people like JimF get told to shut up it always boils down to "are you afraid of something?". Quite honestly i've just heard enough of your religious b/s to last me a lifetime.

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Thats it, im growing very weary of these threads and you JimF, this is the general discussion not the bloody holy and righteous discussion boards. Everyone is growing weary of this

and no were not afraid of "discussion" people just dont want to see crap like this and the same stuff over and over again as someone said he knew who had posted it before he even looked at the posters name, for the last week this has been nothing but topics on the same line started byu you, topics that have really and slowly and most of all INSIDIOUSLY been slicing at neowin.

Now WHOEVER reads this be it MODS or MEMBERS when you have dedicated and long time members saying enough is ENOUGH do you think maybe you should cut this crap out.

Now look I dont know whats happened here but over the last two weeks ive seen more complaints about contravesioal topics like this etc, more posts about the degrading quality of neowin then I care to see, and my conclusioin is threads like this. Now I dont know whats going on but theres obviously something wrong with the processes here at neowin, This is a general discussion thread and you have let this line of "discussions" by the one person go on for too LONG, FIX IT PLEASE!

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Originally posted by JimF  

Last week Neobond asked me to back up my claims about the fraud that was done when they were dating the Shroud of Turin,

which supposedly proved the Shroud to be a fake.

So here it is:

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/STURP.TXT

and here is another one:

http://www.shroudstory.com/c14.htm

Do you have any unbiased and non-religiously backed "evidence"?

What you are using is like a Creationists saying that evolution is a fraud. :) Not real evidence at all.

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NOS482: You mean like "unbiased" anti-Christian mainstream media ? Time magazine, Newsweek, New York Times, "unbiased" Scientifc American ? Is this your definition of unbiased source ?

Show me one liberal secular media outlet that's not biased. I don't think there is one.

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JimF your wasting your breath the Neowin members have spoken this is a "TECH" site and quote that, one by one these topics are being hunted down, and locked. and closed. and deleted.

Beware the ides of March.

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Originally posted by JimF  

Keldyn: Neobond asked me to back up my claims and I promised him I would once I find the links.

I made a point, I didnt expect you to start threads about it.

If you think differently sorry for misleading you. Thread is now closed.

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