phantomAI Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 I think this was posted before, but would like some feedback. I finally decided which college that I'll attend this fall...the one that gave me the most money. In the process I decided that I wouldn't go for comp. science, but comp. engineering. Is this a good idea?...Would I still be learning programming since I'm still interested in it and would like to learn more about hardware also. I still believe that the tech. industry will continue to grow even though there are people out there who have doubts about the current economic situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Take it from someone who just graduated from comp eng this month. :D!!! I wouldn't take anything else, really. Although programs are different from uni to uni. My program didn't consists of too much programming, a lot mind you, but an equal amount ot electrical eng stuff. What you could do, is to post a list of courses (mandatory) here so i can compare and tell you if you will do a lot of programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Hey I made the same dicision. If I don't like it next year I will transfer out of the program. I chose comp engineering over comp science because comp science focus on AI, graphics, algorhythms. Comp engineering allows me to do computer hardware and software. There is a lot more flexibility involved. In many schools, its the same thing. Here is my school in beautiful Vancouver http://www.sfu.ca/index3.htm here is a description: The program begins with a thorough background in the fundamentals of analog and digital electronics, computer architecture, and networks and communications. Project oriented courses are offered during the early part of this program to provide students with theory and practice. At more advanced levels, subjects include structured programming, software engineering, compilers, operating systems, intelligent systems, embedded systems, real-time systems, and VLSI systems. I don't intend on doing this for a living but I do intend on getting some business, like mba, 2 more years :(. But then I can go work anywhere. I dont' really know what I want to do with my life, but I do know that this is my first pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurm Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 A good school will force you to take the really irritating engineering classes even if you just want a CS major. Might as well learn the GOOD and FUN stuff along with them. Although... if you want to be a real programmer... engineering school ain't the place to be. ;) - Gurm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Originally posted by Goalie_CA here is a description: The program begins with a thorough background in the fundamentals of analog and digital electronics, computer architecture, and networks and communications. Project oriented courses are offered during the early part of this program to provide students with theory and practice. At more advanced levels, subjects include structured programming, software engineering, compilers, operating systems, intelligent systems, embedded systems, real-time systems, and VLSI systems. lol... that's about the same description as my uni. Goalie_CA, take heed my warning, you won't learn a lot of programming. In fact you'll learn a lot of digital stuff and theories. If you really want programming, look into CS. Me personally, i loved engineering and programming was just a side interest to me. It's a lot harder to engineer than to program so you might like the challenge. Like Gurm said, if you really want to program stuff, eng is not the best to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwar Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 hrmm.. well say i major in "programming" and graduate with good grades and stuff.. Will i be able to get a decent job with decent pay? Anybody with prior experience? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 erm..major in "programming"? means you take CS right? anyways, in any of these related field, you'll find a decent job, although there are lots of programmers out there without a job now. The only thing is to find what you like doing. The rest will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwar Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 ehheh sorry about that.. cuz i have no clue what a CS is since i am still a freshman in high school but just trying to plan what i am going to do in my future and i decided that computers would be a good field to work in just don't know exactly which part.. i like programming a lot although i don't know coding like a pro now, i wish to learn.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Dorr Veteran Posted April 24, 2002 Veteran Share Posted April 24, 2002 simply way to figure it out: do you like solving problems? - CS do you like building sh|t? - CE a lot of people think CS is programming. it's not, it's about theory and solving problems. I love that stuff, so I'm a CS major for that reason (@ Georgia Tech if you care :D ), but I have a CE major nextdoor and he likes going to radioshack and putting together all kinds of crazy devices. But again, it's all up to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Timdorr, i think it's more like: do you like staring at the comp all day? - CS do you like building awesome cool robots? - EE/CE yeah i'm the nextdoor type.... build robots... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwar Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Originally posted by timdorr simply way to figure it out: do you like solving problems? - CS do you like building sh|t? - CE a lot of people think CS is programming. it's not, it's about theory and solving problems. I love that stuff, so I'm a CS major for that reason (@ Georgia Tech if you care :D ), but I have a CE major nextdoor and he likes going to radioshack and putting together all kinds of crazy devices. But again, it's all up to you... i definitely like solving problems and stuff like that more actually .. as far as i understood to get in to a nice programming job, you need to have a CS. Well then if anything doesn't change with these programs until 2005, then my choice will be a CS degree which i think i will enjoy to do for my career.. I am also interested in php/mysql and web development of the like. The same kind, CS is required to get into those kinds also is that correct? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttmanx Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Georgia Tech? hehe cool that is where im transfering next after GA State that is if I can make it out of GA Perimeter first..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Blackwar: yep, that's CS allright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 timdorr is right, Computer Science at most schools deals more with problem solving using applications and networking. I'm a CS major at Univ. of Florida, i love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwar Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Originally posted by GatorZx2 timdorr is right, Computer Science at most schools deals more with problem solving using applications and networking. I'm a CS major at Univ. of Florida, i love it! ill take your word for it and go CS in 2005.. I am hoping i will like it too ;) it is never too early to start planning your future.. or is it? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Originally posted by BLACKWAR ill take your word for it and go CS in 2005.. I am hoping i will like it too ;) it is never too early to start planning your future.. or is it? :p Hey, my advice is you have 4 years to explore your options and really see what your interests and talents are. Its great that you already know what you like and want, just keep an open mind the next four years then you'll be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwar Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Thanks again Gator :) much appreciated.. i am definitely sure i wanna go computer-wise, now im just clearer on exactly which of many branches of i was going to go to.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 BAH! CE all the way! screw CS!!! :mad: hehe :D uh oh (CS'ers chasing me with ice picks and chain saws) SLAT! GASH! BISH! :dead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomAI Posted April 24, 2002 Author Share Posted April 24, 2002 I like programming, but I'm still a bit new at it. But I also would like to learn how to build things, like robots. It might be cool to invent something new. Anyways, can someone check this out for me http://www.bu.edu/ece/ or http://www.bu.edu/bulletins/und/item19g2.html#anchor10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 Programming is cool, but it can become really irritating. When I do program, its usually a small project that I can finish in a day or two. CE is interresting. You do cover software and stuff, but not nearly to degree of CS. I like building cool ****. I also find Steve Wozniack is a really interresting person. He is a super l337 comp engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted April 24, 2002 Share Posted April 24, 2002 I was a CS major for 2 years here at Radford University. let me tell you it all depends where you go... I hate CS here. the professors are very weird and can not teach. the curriculum is more indvidual based than group work. i have had some programming jobs in the past working as an intern at AOL and an engineering company and both places i worked in a team of 8-10 programmers. thats the way CS should be taught, team work. there is a seperate honor code for CS students and anyone taking CS classes. and it states that basically if you even ASK for help from another student about a programming assignment it is concidered cheating and with great consiquences. i had a friend my freshman year that asked help from another about a quick sort algorithym and they both got 30 hours of community service. what had happened was both student's codes where nearly identical except for variable names and they were caught. seriously there are so many ways to do a quick sort and god forbid that some of them look alike!! also the assignments were pointless and useless. so now im an information technology major and all day all i do is use the office suite and make crappy powerpoint presentations. i wish i had comp eng. here, i would so take that in a heart beat!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babis Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 It depends on the department. Some departments divide CS into application/systems/analysis application = programming systems = sort of CE analysis = theory In addition at my school CE has 2 concentrations EE or CS so it takes a lil of both. btw.. you can always double major ;-) best way to find out what you want to do !!!INTERNSHIPS!!! I can't stress the importance of a internship.. hope that helped.. BU is an awesome school.. pretty huge thou... great area.. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h71y6 Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Originally posted by khnXP But I also would like to learn how to build things, like robots. It might be cool to invent something new. ah robots.. are extremely difficult to build, depending on the complexity and precision. You'll be getting into Controls, which is bloody tough for me frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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