Real democracy really is in peril


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Real democracy really is in peril, but it's not Mr. Le Pen who threatens it.

What exactly does Mr. Le Pen threaten to do to elicit this kind of psychosis? Mainly he promises to end abortion and same-sex marriages, stop legal immigration, kick out all illegal immigrants, maybe withdraw from the EU and generally get tough on law and order. Most of his program is in fact not very different from what most American conservatives support, though that doesn't stop their spokesmen from denouncing him in the same shrill tones as the Europeans.

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http://www.vdare.com/francis/french_election.htm

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Does this mean that if we Flamb? jimF that this thread will be closed?:DD

OK I won't outright flame him, but rather make a suggestion. JimF since you are so adamant in your views, why not invest a little time and effort into building your own website where your views will be welcomed by visitors , maybe even looked for. You could build yourself a nice little online community with like minded individuals. Maybe even start your own little community out in Texas. Maybe about half way between Dallas and Austin.

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Originally posted by Spyder  

I guess whats in question here is how general is "general discussion"

gen?er?al Pronunciation Key (jnr-l)

adj.

Concerned with, applicable to, or affecting the whole or every member of a class or category: ?subduing all her impressions as a woman, to something more general? (Virginia Woolf).

Affecting or characteristic of the majority of those involved; prevalent: general discontent.

Of or affecting the entire body: general paralysis.

Being usually the case; true or applicable in most instances but not all: the general correctness of her decisions.

Not limited in scope, area, or application: as a general rule.

Not limited to or dealing with one class of things; diversified: general studies.

Involving only the main features rather than precise details: a general grasp of the subject.

Highest or superior in rank: the general manager.

n.

Abbr. GEN or Gen or Gen. A commissioned rank in the U.S. Army, Air Force, or Marine Corps that is above lieutenant general.

One who holds this rank or a similar rank in another military organization.

A general officer.

A statement, principle, or fact that embraces or is applicable to the whole.

General anesthesia.

Archaic. The public.

Source: http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=general

So, general discussion is "Not limited in scope, area, or application" and neowin does specify that if it doesn't fit the other forums post it in General Discussion forum.

"General Discussion

Talk about anything here that doesn't fit on other forums"

I could post what color is your shirt then I would get flamed for such an idiotic thread but it fits under General Discussion Forum and doesn't break any rules.

So, thats my two cents.

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I've not checked Le Pen's "values" out or anything, but I doubt many American conservatives call the Holocaust a "detail" in history. While yes, it is part of history, I'd imagine it to be more important than a "detail."

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True it is General Discussion, but when the creators of this site made that thread, they probably had no idea that people would be posting stuff like what color is your shirt or something, I'm sure they wanted to keep it to a computer discussion. They should change it to All Other Computer Discussion.

Or mabye thats why they made it in the first place to keep posts like what color is your shirt from appearing in a folder like Windows XP Troubleshooting.

just my 2 cents

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Originally posted by Nowhereman  

Does this mean that if we Flamb? jimF that this thread will be closed?:DD  

OK I won't outright flame him, but rather make a suggestion. JimF since you are so adamant in your views, why not invest a little time and effort into building your own website where your views will be welcomed by visitors , maybe even looked for. You could build yourself a nice little online community with like minded individuals. Maybe even start your own little community out in Texas. Maybe about half way between Dallas and Austin. >

I agree with the website idea

or maybe this

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Originally posted by ShOcKz1104  

True it is General Discussion, but when the creators of this site made that thread, they probably had no idea that people would be posting stuff like what color is your shirt or something, I'm sure they wanted to keep it to a computer discussion. They should change it to All Other Computer Discussion.  

Or mabye thats why they made it in the first place to keep posts like what color is your shirt from appearing in a folder like Windows XP Troubleshooting.

just my 2 cents

You could argue that "How old are you" and "birthday" threads wouldn't apply under your suggestion of All other Computer Discussion forum.

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You could argue that "How old are you" and "birthday" threads wouldn't apply under your suggestion of All other Computer Discussion forum.

Ok.... yeah, I don't have a problem with the birthday threads or any of those, its threads like these that people get into arguments about. Its cool to have fun on NeoWin, thats why we even have a joke forum, but thread like these that just start up problems.

This one for example is a good one. It can offend some people that go here.

It talks about somebody that wants to ban abortions (no body likes them, but still if you ban it people are gonna do it anyways) and then this guy wants to stop same sex marriages from occuring, now I'm not gay or anything like that, but i bet some people that go to NeoWin are, and i'm sure they don't apperatate somebody like JimF basicaly stating posting negative comments about them.

Second, he just causes trouble, he knows that and he just does it to start arguments. His sees his posts get closed all the time, and he just makes new ones to start up trouble.

Anyways, i know people are going to disagree with me, but w/e. I just think NeoWin should be kept fun, tech, and flame and argument free. Birthday threads and age things are ok, but not something that is going to offend some people.

^ - Now somebody will argue that you don't have to read the posts, but if you see them on the front page in the recent posts section, its kind of not hard to look.

I usally just try to stay away from JimF's comments and post, because I know I will just yell at him, but if he calls someone evil for not agreeing with him or states something that offends me then yeah I am going to say something.

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well, I don't know anything about French democracy or policy but I'm sure it would be interesting... afterall, they always listen to our "United States is the greatest" (because we are :evil: ) sh*t... so I say, let them go at it! :D

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OK, im sorry, but i thought this was the perfect time to post the flame template:

Dear:

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Pointless Thread Starter

< > Whiny Biatch

< > Imperialist Scum

< > Amateur [insert profession]

You Are Being Flamed Because:

< > You continued a long, stupid thread

< > You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message

< > You said "me too" to something or "Send ______"

You don't know what youre talking about

You suck

< > You brag about things that never happened

< > Your sig/alias/server sucks

You posted something totally uninteresting

< > You crossposted

< > You posted a message all written in CAPS

< > I don't like your tone of voice

< > You junkmailed me

You just plain suck

Your stupidity is astounding

I thought, "What the hell?"

< > I felt like it

< > Would you like some cheese with your whine?

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To Repent, You Must:

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Actually post something relevant

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Apologize to everybody in this forum

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