Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 If you are good at linguistics, would you like to indicate the following sentences pleasant or unpleasant? Thanks in anticipation (1) Perhaps never am I a sage in the world. (2) The France does be the paradise of an epicurean. (3) Considering your all thumbs manner, I'm afraid there is no any eloquence in your speaking. (Note: In the (3), word "no" means "not any", so using "I'm afraid there is 'not any any' eloquence in your speaking" to "thoroughly deny". Does this expression work?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 they are pretty hard to read, just tricky the way they are worded, had to read them a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Hmm...I'm guessing English isn't your first language. First of all, the topic should be "Interested in grammar and rhetoric". After that: 1)Perphaps I will never be a sage in this world. 2)France is paradise for the epicurean. 3)This one is a little tricky. I'd imagine by "all thumbs" you mean thumbs up, or ****y manner, so it should probably read something like: "Given your attitude, I'm dissapointed there is no eloquence in your speaking." Something like that, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deryck Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Okay, let me try, I am just guessing here: 1) Well, I hope you shall be wise in this world some time. Sad. 2) I always thought that, France, the centre of luxury and sensual pleasures. Or do you mean the French writer Anatole France? Informative but with no mood, possibly pleasent though. 3) Possibly being in a state of a htich-hiker (the thumb used to get car lifts), or to make something dirty by use thus in a careless state? Because of you, negative, state, you can not speak forcefully, expressively, and persuasively, possibly out due to lazyness. Definitly negative. I am just being vague but I am thinking quickly about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 #2 is pleasant and makes me hungry. :D:D:D:D anita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deadzombie Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 A.These expressions make little or no sense. Rule #1 of English is that it must fit into the local geographical context. Although this leads to many variations, I would be hard pressed to believe you would find any current use for any of the three phrases. They all irritate me to no end. B. You should have gone for a newbie context, i.e.; 1.) S@g3 Suxor! 2.) France Rulz! 3.) l33t haxors rulz! That may have made more (sic) sense to some of the people here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StimpyX Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 #1 comes closest to an accepted English grammatical structure, hence it's the more "pleasant" of the three, but none will win in a selection based on rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 Good luck for... er... me (the reply for twist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 "Interested on" is just a typo, still, thank you for your correction. 1) If having to use future tense, is the sentence " Probably never will I be a sage in the world" better than the sentence " I will probably never be a sage in the world", due to the former is more bitter than the latter? 2) If discarding "does be", should the sentence be expressed with "France is really paradise for the epicurean"? Because of word "do" means "used as a means of emphasis". 3) I think "all thumbs" can just mean "Lacking physical coordination, skill, or grace; clumsy."(see: American Heritage), which is against "thumbs up". So for the reason of "thorough denial", how about using "no any " instead of "no" in that special situation? I know this is not standard English, but as a slang expression, does it work? (I deem all your advice has changed "intense sunshine" into "watery sunshine", making the style a little different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 I'd like to read your message repeatedly, thank you very much. (the reply for Deryck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 May you success! (the reply for aem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortensen Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Those are awful sentences. Just because a sentence is technically correct (which I'm not saying these are) does not mean that it is correct use of English. Yoda is a prime example - he speaks in a strange way that, while being somewhat correct, is actually poor use of English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave888 Posted May 7, 2002 Author Share Posted May 7, 2002 I'll try my best to improve the relative skill, and thank you again. (the reply for StimpyX) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 1) "I will probably never be a sage in this world" is better. 2) You can't use do in that sense in that sentance. 3) I get the reference to "all thumbs", but no one uses it in that sense. It means clumsy or akward, but never in speech. I have a feeling your looking these phrases up in the dictionary, and many of the ones you are finding are either obsolete or can't be used where your putting them (such as does be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Originally posted by deadzombie A.These expressions make little or no sense. Rule #1 of English is that it must fit into the local geographical context. Although this leads to many variations, I would be hard pressed to believe you would find any current use for any of the three phrases. They all irritate me to no end. B. You should have gone for a newbie context, i.e.; 1.) S@g3 Suxor! 2.) France Rulz! 3.) l33t haxors rulz! That may have made more (sic) sense to some of the people here... I say to thee, given your l33t to thy nature, it is all but in its fullest form of eloquence and raving charms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deryck Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 What do you mean in your reply to me? :s Those sentances are just jargon insted of old English, do not try so hard nxt time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenMaster Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 I won't comment on wether or not they're pleasant statement, but I will comment on the practicality. 1) Is written in what I like to call YodaSpeak. While its fun to write and talk like that - "Believe in the force, you must" - its not very effective in speaking, writing it is acceptable but "You must believe in the force" for example is more effective. 2 & 3 are written in British english. While its certainly acceptable in Britan and Australia and maybe Canada, it doesn't go over too well in the US unless you're in academia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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