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(Reffering to the first post) Looks like they ran out of bandwidth :dead:

Well, whatever they said, it's more than likey biased. (look at the URL)

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I guess you didn't notice that pro-mac people wrote that? You can just about make anything/anyone look better than another when you leave out the cons. (Refering to the first link)

If I were you, I'd test them both out first and see what you think. That's the best way to find out: experience it for yourself.;)

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Originally posted by tiger2k

i also stumbled with this

http://www.mediamall.com/nowmedia/drmac/dm000424.html

This article date back to april 2000. Windows Millenium wasn't even released and XP was more than one year away.

1) Macintosh comes with OSX preinstalled so you don't have to install, thus the ease of setup. If you buy from Dell or HP or whatever, you get the same treatment. Windows XP is very easy to use.

2) Granted, but you can still skin and customize the Windows XP UI.

3) Hahaha. That argument just doesn't hold anymore. Maybe for Photoshop but that is really all.

4) This is stupid. You can get a PC with all that. And then why the hell would you care if the other bloke has a PC without sound and ethernet? All Macs have this and that, well it's my computer that counts, and I can get all that on a PC.

5) Windows Media Player. Built in. For free with your OS. Need I say more?

6) Windows XP can do that and it's very very easy with Windows XP. It's a matter of plug, run wizard for a few sec, and play.

7) PCs are cheaper and more powerful with the same features. Yes way dude.

8) I have scanner, printer, joystick, optical mouse, digital camcorder, webcam... all USB and FireWire. Piece of cake for XP.

You plug the camcorder in, and it shows you directly what's being filmed.

9) PCs have USB2 now. You can also upgrade everything inside a PC.

10) Yes they look cool.

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Ok, somethings need to be straightened out here...

Hardware Performance

PowerPC outperforms Pentium. It's that simple. A G4 running Photoshop or even Microsoft Excel, is a beautiful thing to behold. It doesn't get much faster.

You really can't compare the PowerPC Processors to the Pentium, totally different architecures.

Standards

Macs have it all over Windows here, too. All Macs include sound. All Macs include video. All Macs include Ethernet. All Macs include USB. And finally, most Macs now include FireWire. While many PCs come with those things these days, most of them are not "on the motherboard" and are not integrated into your hardware and software as seamlessly as they are on the Mac.

First off, if it's integrated onto the motherboard, how are you going to upgrade it? You can't! I think i'd much rather perfer my sound, ethernet, video on PCI or AGP slots, so they can be upgraded with little effort. I don't know when this article was written but these days virtually ALL motherboards have at least 2 USB ports, if that's not enough then get a hub, USB supports up to 127 devices. 1 FireWire port = 1 FireWire Device. Also, despite what all the Macaddicts say, FireWire is NOT the fastest means of transfer, USB 2.0 transmits data at 480 Megabits per second.

Multimedia

QuickTime. Built in. For free with your OS. Need I say more?

Windows Media Player 8 (FREE DVD & MP3 pack available at www.windowsxp.nu) is included with Windows XP, and it's much better than Quicktime.

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Another thing,

Bob LeVitus is a leading authority on the Mac OS and the author of 34 books, including Mac OS 9 For Dummies

That whole list is biased, I doubt this guy has ever used a PC...

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Originally posted by JZolloXP

Another thing,

That whole list is biased, I doubt this guy has ever used a PC...

His opinions shouldn't even be argued with, because he's got pro-mac written all over him. I'd like to see a review site where several people post in their reviews of mac/pc and which one is better. Not some guy who has been using macs all his life and is marking out for them.

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comeone.. lets give the mac guys a break.. maybe the guy was high? ok scratch that.. mac really needs something new and groundbreaking or they are gonna be killed.

did anyone see the reveiw of dual G4 1ghz VS dual AMD MP 1.2ghz? the 1.2ghz won in i think everything.. not sure.. don't quote me on that.. infact never quote me.. i am copyright me. :D j/k

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The comparison he used between a Ford Escort and a Mercedes (PC and Mac) is just plain stupid.

He says the Merc (Mac) is more expensive, but will cost you less over the long run and has more features, whereas the Escort (PC) is cheaper, but has less features and will cost you more over the long run.

Then he puts the price of the Escort (PC) at $15,000 and the Merc (Mac) at $16,000 - and says:

Exactly how many people would be buying the ?less expensive? car???
Well if the Merc (Mac) can't have air-conditioning (software) and cruise control (games), maybe I'd go for the Escort (PC). :roll:
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Originally posted by aco

The comparison he used between a Ford Escort and a Mercedes (PC and Mac) is just plain stupid.

He says the Merc (Mac) is more expensive, but will cost you less over the long run and has more features, whereas the Escort (PC) is cheaper, but has less features and will cost you more over the long run.

Then he puts the price of the Escort (PC) at $15,000 and the Merc (Mac) at $16,000 - and says:Well if the Merc (Mac) can't have air-conditioning (software) and cruise control (games), maybe I'd go for the Escort (PC). :roll:

since when Merc are only $1,000 more then escorts :s

btw i beat apple payed him to write that article.

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wow, you guys really know how to bring a guy back to his sences.

i guess i really just have to pick an afternoon and play around with a mac over at the new mac store that they just put on the mall :D

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Originally posted by JZolloXP

You really can't compare the PowerPC Processors to the Pentium, totally different architecures.

This is the ONLY thing I'm going to argue becuase it's the only thing I think that has a problem with arguements on this subject. I'm not going to say you're wrong about your statement's basis becuase you're right; x86 vs. Mac is not a valid arguement. However, you have to look at the end-user experience. I'm 99% sure that when you're using your computer, no matter how fast it says it is on the benchmarks, if you click some button or perform some operation and have to wait longer than you expected, you're not going to be as happy as you could be. Sure, there are different elements of, say, Photoshop that will run faster on one architecture as opposed to the other, but what also has to be considered is how it appears to the end user that can have a drastic effect in percived performance. So, not to beat this into the ground, my personal opinion is the Macs lead in performance becuase they are pushing a better end-user experience, both in interface and operation.

Just my 2 cents :D

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