giantsnyy Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 (edited) i just visited my local apple store earlier today... they're entirely sold out of mac minis, and every single model of the iPod. i must say, the mac mini is a good start for apple in the low end market. See... people actually do want one Edited January 28, 2005 by giantsnyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted January 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2005 could someone please explain why my NEW mac mini has a USED hard drive in it? (it's even marked used as i said in my previous post) 585370298[/snapback] Call Apple or ask your reseller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 could someone please explain why my NEW mac mini has a USED hard drive in it? (it's even marked used as i said in my previous post) 585370298[/snapback] lol they jipped you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ienhz Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 OSX looks pretty cool I'll admit. I remember the older OSes that my elementary school had, jeez those were horrible. Even though this is the cheapest Mac I STILL feel it's overpriced. $499 USD?! I can get a PC with an AMD 64, 512MB DDR400, SATA, DVD burning capabilities, 160GB 7200 RPM. I've always wanted a cheap Mac for just browsing, music, and chat but $499 is too much for what you get (or don't get). I don't see why thye had to go with laptop drives, this is a DESKTOP. No one needs to frequently move this thing and the extra inch wouldn't have made much of a difference in weight when you can get better performance (and ease of switching to a larger hard drive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ienhz Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Wow, leave it to scared, paranoid Billy G. fanboys to screw up a great thread, spouting BS left and right. All the "I can get a better PC from *insert OEM here*" arugements are useless, as a PC from Dell, HP, Compaq, or any other maunfacturer won't run OS X, won't run iLife, WILL get viruses, and WILL get spyware/adware. That and all Celerons or 2.4 gHz Pentium 4 aren't as powerful as that "underpowered" G4. Also, 256 mb is plenty for OSX, I did it for a month on a 1.2 ghz G4 ibook, and it was snappier than any Wintel PC I've used (including 2.8 gHz machines with a gig of RAM) 585364297[/snapback] Yeah, and leave it to the Mac fanboys who think OSX will never have virus'. Stop being an idiot. You're just as bad as the Windows fanboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted January 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2005 if you guys are comparing pc and mac based on pure hardware, mac is overpriced no doubt. but if you think about it. the mac mini comes with software eveything a simple pc user looks for. out of the box, just hook it up to existing pc hardware and away it goes. however if you give it a little wait, the mac mini will prob get some upgrades with no price changes. ie speed bumps, tiger soon etc. it seems theyre adjusting prices to the mini constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralRooster Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I can safely say I will be buying the mac mini. I can even tell you why. I'm bored with Windows. I've used Windows since 95, and I'm bored with it. 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, and now its 2005....and nothing really new has come from the Windows team. Sure Longhorn is on the way, but I'm tired of waiting for it, and I still feel that it will be disappointing. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel like something will just scream out to me, same old Microsoft. I consider myself a semi-advanced Windows user, but I'm not interested in how it reads and writes files to the disk, I'm not interested in all the wonderful ways you can take the OS apart and change the way it looks and feels, because at the end of the day, it's still Windows, it still does what it did 4 years ago when we bought it. It still has the same Virus warning we were getting with 95. and still in high numbers. I'm not saying OSX is Virus free. I'm a firm believer that we can not even compare it to Windows Viruses, because there are more Windows that Macs. I digress. Buying the Mac Mini will give me something new to do, something new to look at. And those who argue about the hardware need to rethink. Of course the Apple Mac is going to run better than a PC with similar Hardware specs. Everything about the Apple Mac, is designed and built to work with each other. The OS is designed and built to work with the Hardware and Vice Versa. A PC...The Hardware is designed and written to work with the OS. The OS is not written to work with the Hardware. On that note, I leave before I find something else to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2005 Call Apple or ask your reseller. 585370364[/snapback] talked to the apple store tonight about it and they said they've seen 10 so far in this area with used drives in them... this just sucks.. you expect your system to be totaly NEW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devBrian Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 In response to the title: Or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ienhz Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 And those who argue about the hardware need to rethink. Of course the Apple Mac is going to run better than a PC with similar Hardware specs. Everything about the Apple Mac, is designed and built to work with each other. The OS is designed and built to work with the Hardware and Vice Versa. A PC...The Hardware is designed and written to work with the OS. The OS is not written to work with the Hardware.On that note, I leave before I find something else to say... 585370701[/snapback] Yeah but the Anandtech review PROVES that the 5400(or 4200)RPM drive severely limits the speed of installing applications or writing to hard drive. Why oh why couldn't they have just put a desktop hard drive! I would have seriously considered the Mac mini. Review also says that 512MB RAM is a must... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asdflkjsdrhthfhrhr Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 You know, 7200rpm laptop drives do exist. And they aren't too expensive. A 7200rpm 40gig laptop drive can be obtained for under 100 dollars. Sell the one that came with it and you may save a lot of cash. I'm not saying the 4200 was a good decision, but upgrading it is seriously not hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 28, 2005 You know, 7200rpm laptop drives do exist. And they aren't too expensive. A 7200rpm 40gig laptop drive can be obtained for under 100 dollars. Sell the one that came with it and you may save a lot of cash. I'm not saying the 4200 was a good decision, but upgrading it is seriously not hard. 585371453[/snapback] where in the world are you getting a good 40GB 2.5" drive at 7200RPM for under $100? the cheapest 7200 drive like that I can find anywhere is $114.00 for a good quality one... and that is $40 more then the 5400RPM model costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drshdw Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 You know, 7200rpm laptop drives do exist. And they aren't too expensive. A 7200rpm 40gig laptop drive can be obtained for under 100 dollars. Sell the one that came with it and you may save a lot of cash. I'm not saying the 4200 was a good decision, but upgrading it is seriously not hard. 585371453[/snapback] don't you have to spend even more $$....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 30, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 30, 2005 don't you have to spend even more $$....... 585376085[/snapback] yea it would end up costing more, there are even 10,000 RPM notebook drives too now but they are very expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahul Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 the review is real good & actually given a chance i wouldnt mind getting a mac mini with a 17inch apple display for mahself , cuz even im pretty bored of the whole windows thingy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha2004 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Its funny to see the amount of people, who over and over again compare PC Processor speeds to Mac Processor speeds.Its comparing Apples and oranges. Its as ignorant as me saying that my old P4, Which runs at 2.66 GHz, must be better than an AMD FX-55 cuz its only 2.6. Also, the mac mini has better Graphics and Optical drive. On a side note, Who the hell wants a dell? :wacko: :wacko: 585355895[/snapback] the mac mini chocked when more than 1 app was open intel 2.6ghz processor pcs with 256mb ram dont choke like that :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanDaMan Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 the mac mini chocked when more than 1 app was open 585382392[/snapback] Course it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Its funny to see the amount of people, who over and over again compare PC Processor speeds to Mac Processor speeds.Its comparing Apples and oranges. Its as ignorant as me saying that my old P4, Which runs at 2.66 GHz, must be better than an AMD FX-55 cuz its only 2.6. Also, the mac mini has better Graphics and Optical drive. On a side note, Who the hell wants a dell? :wacko: :wacko: 585355895[/snapback] Who wants a Dell ??? how about a very lot of people as its the No 1 PC brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 yea it would end up costing more, there are even 10,000 RPM notebook drives too now but they are very expensive 585381369[/snapback] Just because a hard drive is 2.5" doesn't necessarily mean it is for notebooks. The only 2.5" 10,000 RPM drive I know of is the Savvio from Seagate, which has an Ultra 320 SCSI interface and is primarily designed to be used in blade servers. Since the Mac mini doesn't have a SCSI controller and neither do the majority of notebooks I don't see how this is relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Who wants a Dell ??? how about a very lot of people as its the No 1 PC brand. 585383796[/snapback] Not me, that's for sure. I really don't understand why people buy computers from Dell. Their entry-level PCs are crippled (the Dimension 2400 doesn't have an AGP slot), you get re-directed to a call centre in India if you want support (great if you want to have to explain everything twice) and their computers no sense of style. At least with Apple you get to speak to someone who is English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Not me, that's for sure. I really don't understand why people buy computers from Dell. Their entry-level PCs are crippled (the Dimension 2400 doesn't have an AGP slot), you get re-directed to a call centre in India if you want support (great if you want to have to explain everything twice) and their computers no sense of style. At least with Apple you get to speak to someone who is English. 585386342[/snapback] i agree :yes: :yes: :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Yeah but the Anandtech review PROVES that the 5400(or 4200)RPM drive severely limits the speed of installing applications or writing to hard drive. Why oh why couldn't they have just put a desktop hard drive! I would have seriously considered the Mac mini. Review also says that 512MB RAM is a must... 585371196[/snapback] A 3.5" desktop hard drive would have increased the size of the Mac mini and would also generate more heat. As you can see from the graph below the 100GB 5,400 RPM drive is almost as as the 60GB 7,200 RPM drive. Since the difference if so small I think most people would rather have more space than more speed. Click here for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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