Chode Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) St. Malachy whilst in Rome in 1139 had strange visions of the future. Specifically, of every pope which would follow his life until the end of the Catholic Church. Baloney, many would say, but to date he predicted 99 popes apparently correctly. Of Pope John Paul II (pope #266), he wrote De labore Solis. This has been translated by many to be "Toiler beneath the Sun", referring to the work he did as a young man in a Rock Quarry. (some think it refers to the partial eclipse during his funeral as well) Now, I believe, you can say that Malachy was right about 100 popes. He wrote of the pope to follow John Paul II (and the 267th pope) Gloria oliv?>. The Glory of the Olives. Some people used to translate this as meaning a Greek man, or Meditteranean. It should be noted that the order of St. Benedict is symbolised by the Olive. Besides assuming the name of Benedict, Ratzinger has been noted as taking inspiration from the Saint. So, in my opinon, it is possible that Pope Benedict XVI is the Glory of the Olives which Malachy wrote of. What is interesting then is the prophecy for the following of Pope Benedict XVI (or, as some people see it, also the current pope. Especially since this pope has no Motto Number assigned to him in the prophecies): In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, & Judex trem?dus judicabit populum suum. Finis.i> (In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.) I'm not a Catholic, heck I'm not even Christian...but I do read prophecies and this one I do find interesting. EDIT:b> http://news.ft.com/cms/s/56bac2ac-b134-11d...000e2511c8.html Current followers of the Benedictine order respect Cardinal Ratzinger for his theological acumen, and his tendency to favour a church that is more “faithful” to orthodoxy. Edited April 20, 2005 by Chode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krpano Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 To start i would like to let some info i read about JPII and the "De labore Solis"...as far as i know He was born on May 18, 1920. On that date in the morning there was a near total eclipse of the sun over Europe. Maybe "De labore solis" come from there. About St. Malachy, i must say it freak me out a bit. Lots of his visions(about the Popes) turn out to be extremely precise and he was precise about the day of his death too. One odd thing about this "end" he says is that it comes really close to the end of the Maya calendar...2012. In another side, we could take in consideration that this is all a huge setup by the Catholic church ? Maybe they created all this St. Malachy thing, and so they follow as they wrote...to lead ppl to believe the power of God or whatever ? Maybe they try to scare ppl and after they will come for help and etc.... Anyway i found this subject VERY interesting. I really would like to hear other opinions. Btw Chode, thx for the post...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophecy Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Krpano, Same boat as you the most research you do on it the more it lines up a little too well. Im actually hoping its a setup. One thing that disturbs me is the name the new pope has chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krpano Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Im wondering one thing. What the Pope would answer to the follow questions ? 1.) Do you believe in St Malachy's prophecies ? (i imagine the answe would only be yes, because he was named St. in part for his visions and heals and etc.) 2.) So what kind of mesures the church is taking to avoid the arrive of the anti-christ ? Imo would be easy to avoid any trouble since they know when/where he will arrive. Thats why i believe all this "end" thing he talked about would be some kind of "new" event..somthing he didnt know how to interpret on that time. maybe something related to alien life or whatever....maybe a new era will come. or in the worst case maybe we interpret wrongly the prophecy and its something related with some kind of comet colision with Earth r whatever... I simply cant see the end of the world caused by anythor person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted April 21, 2005 Author Share Posted April 21, 2005 The prophecy doesn't say the final pope will cause the end, they just said that he would reign until the end. The way I see it, if the prophecies are right, then they simply refer to the end of Rome, not of the world. Interestingly, it is said pope Pius XII had visions of a pope leaving Rome via walkways reserved for Papal use in extreme emergencies. He is reported as having said "please don't let it be within my lifetime". A theory on the prophecies are that the Papacy have worked SINCE the time of St. Malachy to ensure that every prophecy comes true in order to keep the faithful ever fearful of the end and the great judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSoul Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 St Malarchy knew christianity as we know it will end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle-dude Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 St Malarchy knew christianity as we know it will end 585807893[/snapback] What does the Pope have to do with Christianity as a whole? The pope hold no sway with the protestants I will have you know. You are entitled to your own beliefs but do not presume such things about other faiths other than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Carlton Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 What does the Pope have to do with Christianity as a whole? The pope hold no sway with the protestants I will have you know.You are entitled to your own beliefs but do not presume such things about other faiths other than your own. 585808559[/snapback] catholicism is a sect of christianity, so in a way he's right, but kinda backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted April 21, 2005 Veteran Share Posted April 21, 2005 What does the Pope have to do with Christianity as a whole? The pope hold no sway with the protestants I will have you know.You are entitled to your own beliefs but do not presume such things about other faiths other than your own. 585808559[/snapback] True, Catholocism and it's practices bear little bearing on how I worship as a Methodist. As a Christian I'd hate to see the Catholic church ceae to exist, but I imagine my church would still be meeeting every Sunday. OrangeSoul, since you posted this topic int eh Pope thread I have been reading up a lot on it. It is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder though, since all these Pope elects (for lack of knowing a better term) all know aobut St. Malachy's predictions, could that not influence their chosen names? The Curch ahs known about these for centuries, maybe they were following the blueprint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperactive Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 OrangeSoul, since you posted this topic int eh Pope thread I have been reading up a lot on it. It is quite interesting to say the least. I wonder though, since all these Pope elects (for lack of knowing a better term) all know aobut St. Malachy's predictions, could that not influence their chosen names? The Curch ahs known about these for centuries, maybe they were following the blueprint? 585808877[/snapback] perhaps the only true prophecy is the self-fullfilling prophecy? :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chode Posted April 22, 2005 Author Share Posted April 22, 2005 It is always the possibility, I guess we'll know within 100 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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