Galley Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I don't understand why they didn't have a special sale price with the launch of version 8. I bet if they temporarily dropped the price to $20 or $25, registrations would increase 3-5 times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillitnn92 Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Opera, and it had more problems rendering webpages than any browser just so that anyone who doesn't know this already. it's not Opera's fault that more pages render badly. it's poorly wrtten sites that cause this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worbd Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 opera 8 won't let me open links in a new tab with middle button. Huh? Opera opens links in the background by default! You've obviously disabled it yourself somehow. Hold down Shift and middle-click a link for settings. and just little things like the tab's being too tall Depends on the skin. the tab toolbar being above the address bar Use the main bar instead, and drag and drop the URL field there. doesn't have things like gmail notifer What do you need that for? Just add the Gmail Atom newsfeed, and you'll get notification when there's new mail. Or you can use Google's own Gmail notifier program. and adblock http://nontroppo.org/wiki/OperaAdblock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worbd Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I tried Opera, and it had more problems rendering webpages than any browser I've used, plus paying them to remove that ad banner at the top is ridiculous.So in my experience, Firefox > IE > Opera. 585826075[/snapback] Opera doesn't have problems rendering web pages, unless the page uses browser detection and specifically sends Opera broken code. I know that this is hard for Firefox fans to understand, but Opera keeps innovating, and Firefox keeps copying. You pay for Opera, you pay for quality, and continued innovation. Where would Firefox be if it couldn't keep ripping off Opera's features? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Read my post more carefully. I also pointed out that Firefox was better than IE or Opera, plus I'd rather have all those "innovative technologies" in a FREE open-source browser than Opera. I know what you said about Firefox, and I have no complaints about someone thinking that Firefox is better than Opera because they are both good browsers. However, Internet Explorer is NOT better than Opera, which was the point I was trying to make. Rendering, speed, security, price, innovation, usability, configurability, support, the actual company behind the product, etc., you name the category and Opera will almost always be better than Internet Explorer. The only category Internet Explorer might still have the upperhand is intuitivity (the almighty "Go" button for people who don't know how to press <Enter>), and Opera's quickly taking over in that category as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STNG Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Opera doesn't have problems rendering web pages, unless the page uses browser detection and specifically sends Opera broken code. I know that this is hard for Firefox fans to understand, but Opera keeps innovating, and Firefox keeps copying. You pay for Opera, you pay for quality, and continued innovation. I'am total agreed with your opinion (Y). Most of Opera's innovated features was stolen(copied) by FireFox and by other browsers(include IE-based programs). Opera is the most innovation rich browser available on market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I'am total agreed with your opinion (Y). Most of Opera's innovated features was stolen(copied) by FireFox and by other browsers(include IE-based programs). Opera is the most innovation rich browser available on market. 585826967[/snapback] Opera may be the most feature rich, but it still has the most rendering problems of all browsers. I'm not saying that Opera should be responsible for poor website design, but IE and Firefox do a much better job at coping with it. I used to use Opera as my default browser several years back, but found I would have to open up IE so often it became ridiculous (even version 8 has problems with a lot of sites) - then Phoenix (now Firefox) came along and I haven't looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worbd Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 This is not even about "poor website design", theyarecomingforyou... Opera does not have "rendering problems" when the site specifically sends broken code to Opera. Opera does not have "rendering problems" if it would have worked, if only they sent to Opera whatever they are sending to everything else. But some don't. They detect Opera and send it code that won't even work in other browsers, and that's what breaks Opera. If Opera hadn't been discriminated against, it would have worked fine. It is not Opera that has a problem rendering pages. It is the fact that for some reason, quite a few pages specifically make Opera accept bad code that would break other browsers too, if they got the same code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoginhaze Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I am using Mozilla Suite for 3-4 years now and don't see a good reason to switch to another browser. Tried Opera 8.0 and didn't like it. Ads, some annoing bugs (anyone tried to empty Trash on hotmail site?) ... it just doest't suite me :no:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 i went from IE to opera to firefox. and for me i would say it goes firefox>ie>opera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernatch Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Huh? Opera opens links in the background by default! You've obviously disabled it yourself somehow. Hold down Shift and middle-click a link for settings.Depends on the skin. Use the main bar instead, and drag and drop the URL field there. What do you need that for? Just add the Gmail Atom newsfeed, and you'll get notification when there's new mail. Or you can use Google's own Gmail notifier program. http://nontroppo.org/wiki/OperaAdblock 585826838[/snapback] if you actually read through the thread you'd someone had helped me with some of these matters already! thanks anyway though, especially for the information on how to block ads with opera. still seems a whole lot easier on firefox though. and middle clicking does not work on the bookmark list, or on the home icon for example (works on firefox, very handy), unless of course there is something i have to do to enable this? sure, i can hold shift and left click, but middle clicking alone is a lot easier and has become a habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 I am using Mozilla Suite for 3-4 years now and don't see a good reason to switch to another browser. Tried Opera 8.0 and didn't like it. Ads, some annoing bugs (anyone tried to empty Trash on hotmail site?) ... it just doest't suite me :no:. 585827472[/snapback] http://www.weakmind.org/hotmailfix.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worbd Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I am using Mozilla Suite for 3-4 years now and don't see a good reason to switch to another browser. Tried Opera 8.0 and didn't like it. Ads, some annoing bugs (anyone tried to empty Trash on hotmail site?) ... it just doest't suite me :no:. 585827472[/snapback] The Hotmail problem happens because the site doesn't send all the relevant script files to Opera. It sends them to everyone else, but if it detects Opera, it specifically excludes it. So it is not a bug in Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted April 26, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 26, 2005 [...]Opera. Used to look like ****. Streamlined, its better. My MOM uses Opera, and shes totaly computer unsavvy, .. and out of them all she is still running Opera Beta 8. You can change the look TO SUM IT UP:1. IE - SIMPLY FOR ITS COMPATABLITY WITH MOST EVERY SINGLE SITE IN THE FREE WORLD, AND HAS DECENT SPEED. uh, tad overexagguration? 2. FIREFOX - QUICKER, GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME, LACKS SUPPORT FROM TOO MANY PAGES .. what pages? I've only ever used up to about 4 pages that don't work correctly in Fx. Windows Update & Office update to name 2 of them.3. OPERA - AGAIN .. GETTING GETTER, QUICK, BUT $ FOR A STUPID BROWSER? NO WAY.Stupid? I hardly think so. Opera is a feature-rich browser, and you do get what you pay for.Do we HAVE to talk about these stupid browsers? Yes. But you do not have to read them if you do not wish to. (N.B. I'm a firefox user before you go trolling me...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacantmind Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 where's the "i've always been using opera" option? edit it's funny how all of you are morons. seriously, who cares what browser everyone uses? i personally use all three. opera for regular browsing, java off, javascript off and all the plugins off. this makes it pretty damn secure from just about anything. i use firefox for sites that need all those plugs, javascript etc. and i use IE for sites that only work with IE.. like my bank and a few select other sites. maybe i'll try out mozilla, that's supposed to be even better and faster than firefox anyway, so why don't you try it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 it's funny how all of you are morons. seriously, who cares what browser everyone uses? Quote of Wisdom: He who argues with morons is a bigger moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Quote of Wisdom: He who argues with morons is a bigger moron. 585836609[/snapback] To quote one of my favorite songs: Only moron and genius Would fight a losing battle Against the super ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbet Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 To quote one of my favorite songs:Only moron and genius Would fight a losing battle Against the super ego. 585837225[/snapback] Wow, that is a nice quote. Which song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapo Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 No, and here's why: 1. Opera dosn't support quicksearches, or I couldn't find it. I constantly use the wikipedia quicksearch, and using the "I'm feeling lucky" search to my advantage. IMDB movietitle takes me to that page. 2. Find as you type. I'm used to hitting / to do searches. 3. I don't like the ads. But aside from that, Opera 8 is a good browser. They did a nice job supporting SVG Tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronik Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I am on the verge of becoming a complete convert, still testing it out though, i too like the "im feeling lucky" feature in Firefox address bar. if theres a way to get this happening in Opera I will never look back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 1. Opera dosn't support quicksearches, or I couldn't find it. I constantly use the wikipedia quicksearch, and using the "I'm feeling lucky" search to my advantage. IMDB movietitle takes me to that page. Type "wiki <term>" into the google search box?You can modify the search engines to include wiki if you want. 2. Find as you type. I'm used to hitting / to do searches.Uh.. That's what Opera uses for "find as your type" inline searches. . also works. 3. I don't like the ads.Well, can't argue with that. At least you're not bitching that it should be free, yada yada. It won't be free, and it can't be. People must learn to accept that or ignore it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STNG Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 1. Opera dosn't support quicksearches, or I couldn't find it. I constantly use the wikipedia quicksearch, and using the "I'm feeling lucky" search to my advantage. IMDB movietitle takes me to that page. Opera can quick search using keywords in address bar and from search fields. Also you can add any search engine to Opera. New added search engine will be work with keywords and searchfields. 2. Find as you type. I'm used to hitting / to do searches. Opera can. Just press key "." for "find as you type" text search. And press "," for "find as you type" links search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ward57 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 For some bizarre reason, you have to switch that feature on first. It amazes me how many people claim Opera doesn't have their favourite feature when in fact it does - they were simply too lazy to look. Muppets. Oh... and anyonye who likes IE is an idiot. I've just reinstalled XP onto a friends PC for the 3rd time this year 'cos of the malware infestation. He won't use Opera like my other friend whos PC has been running happily for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoginhaze Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 http://www.weakmind.org/hotmailfix.html 585827882[/snapback] Cool, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0| Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Firefox to Maxthon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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