BBC Broadcasting on the Internet now

[BlazingTech]

Look, I just want to make one thing clear. Everyone who is viewing this stream and is NOT in the UK or who has NOT paid their license fee is committing a felony.

We pay ?126.50 / year to fund the BBC, as a license fee, ($240.71) as what is effectively a tax.

If you are caught without a license, you have to pay a fine of ?1000 ($1902) and make a court appearance. License fee revenues across the UK ar ?2.798 billion/b> This is the reason why the BBC can employ circa 30,000 staff, and run high-quality commerical free channels.

When you watch this stream, and you are in Canada, the US, France, Australia, etc..., you are doing the exact same as downloading an illegal mp3 or a movie from the internet, it is piracy from a news station with a royal charter.

Neowin discussion rules dictate:

&quRule #2/b>:No Warez (links) & Cracks: help, requests or posts that discuss circumvention. This includes linking to illegally obtained software, movies & music files - posting about it, and suggesting to get it."

Anyone from the US saying: ooh, I got to watch this stream, commiting the same offense as saying: ooh, I just downloaded a pirated version of xp and have just installed it. Can mods either outright ban or at least warn people who do this, and at least edit the original post/title WARN ALL NON-LICENSE FEE PAYERS THAT WATCHING THIS, FOR THEM, IS ILLEGAL./b>

[Colin-uk Veteran]

If you are caught without a license, you have to pay a fine of ?1000

Not always, it depends how long you have had a TV without a license, a friend of mine got fined about ?400 for not having a license for a few months..

high-quality commerical free channels.

High quality? my ar**, the BBC content is crap.

WARN ALL NON-LICENSE FEE PAYERS THAT WATCHING THIS, FOR THEM, IS ILLEGAL.

Thats impossible, how are the mods to know who has a TV License or not? why not just ban talking about TV altogether.

[Mx]

Look, I just want to make one thing clear. Everyone who is viewing this stream and is NOT in the UK  or who has NOT paid their license fee is committing a felony.

We pay ?126.50 / year to fund the BBC, as a license fee, ($240.71) as what is effectively a tax.

If you are caught without a license, you have to pay a fine of ?1000 ($1902) and make a court appearance. License fee revenues across the UK ar ?2.798 billion/b> This is the reason why the BBC can employ circa 30,000 staff, and run high-quality commerical free channels.

When you watch this stream, and you are in Canada, the US, France, Australia, etc..., you are doing the exact same as downloading an illegal mp3 or a movie from the internet, it is piracy from a news station with a royal charter.

Neowin discussion rules dictate:

&quRule #2/b>:No Warez (links) & Cracks: help, requests or posts that discuss circumvention. This includes linking to illegally obtained software, movies & music files - posting about it, and suggesting to get it."

Anyone from the US saying: ooh, I got to watch this stream, commiting the same offense as saying: ooh, I just downloaded a pirated version of xp and have just installed it. Can mods either outright ban or at least warn people who do this, and at least edit the original post/title WARN ALL NON-LICENSE FEE PAYERS THAT WATCHING THIS, FOR THEM, IS ILLEGAL./b>

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100% True. What the BBC is doing is irresponsible, they should perhaps make it available to those who pay TV license. Not any old joe on the net.

[Storm]

They should look up the Ips and ban everyone from outside the UK, then theres the problem of people in the UK who dont have a liscence

[BlazingTech]

@ Colin

Not always, it depends how long you have had a TV without a license, a friend of mine got fined about ?400 for not having a license for a few months..

See Here.

It says:

Using a TV or any other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) without a without a valid TV Licence is against the law and could lead to prosecution and a fine of up to ?1,000, not to mention the embarrassment and hassle of a court appearance

Oh, and your "friend" is a worthless cheap-ar** freeloader too. Okay?

High quality? my ar**, the BBC content is crap.

Try going overseas at watching US tv, with its "infomercials" and all. Or perhaps you feel that piracy is justified if you download a ****ty pop mp3, as opposed to good music?

Thats impossible, how are the mods to know who has a TV License or not? why not just ban talking about TV altogether.

The mods do know. Those in the US, with a US IP, or those who evepostb> that they're in the US or otherwise who say that they're watching the stream are liable.

Thanks!

[Lee G. Veteran]

I watch NBC sometimes and I'm in the UK.

Although it's non-live, (MSN Video) so I guess it doesn't count

[84Mark]

I'm on the JANET network so Multicast works for me :D

But sorry folks, seems like they were just running a test.. all links seem down at the moment.

[parhamreza]

BBC News has been streamed for a very long time.

[xmr]

BBC News has been streamed for a very long time.

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Yes, but not using multicast.

[kawai]

Look, I just want to make one thing clear. Everyone who is viewing this stream and is NOT in the UK  or who has NOT paid their license fee is committing a felony.

We pay ?126.50 / year to fund the BBC, as a license fee, ($240.71) as what is effectively a tax.

If you are caught without a license, you have to pay a fine of ?1000 ($1902) and make a court appearance. License fee revenues across the UK ar ?2.798 billion/b> This is the reason why the BBC can employ circa 30,000 staff, and run high-quality commerical free channels.

When you watch this stream, and you are in Canada, the US, France, Australia, etc..., you are doing the exact same as downloading an illegal mp3 or a movie from the internet, it is piracy from a news station with a royal charter.

Neowin discussion rules dictate:

&quRule #2/b>:No Warez (links) & Cracks: help, requests or posts that discuss circumvention. This includes linking to illegally obtained software, movies & music files - posting about it, and suggesting to get it."

Anyone from the US saying: ooh, I got to watch this stream, commiting the same offense as saying: ooh, I just downloaded a pirated version of xp and have just installed it. Can mods either outright ban or at least warn people who do this, and at least edit the original post/title WARN ALL NON-LICENSE FEE PAYERS THAT WATCHING THIS, FOR THEM, IS ILLEGAL./b>

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WOW, i never knew they have ppl with vans/handhelds to check for licensed TVs.

The whole concept is bizarre and for some reasons, reminds me of 1984

[CaKeY]

Cool. Even works on Linux. (realplayer 10)

[TheLegendOfMart]

@ Colin

See Here.

It says:

Oh, and your "friend" is a worthless cheap-ar** freeloader too. Okay?

Try going overseas at watching US tv, with its "infomercials" and all. Or perhaps you feel that piracy is justified if you download a ****ty pop mp3, as opposed to good music?

The mods do know. Those in the US, with a US IP, or those who even post that they're in the US or otherwise who say that they're watching the stream are liable.

Thanks!

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You sir are an asshat plain and simple.

[BlazingTech]

You sir are an asshat plain and simple.

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Reported. I'm trying to stop a crime. You, sir, are just flaming.

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Just grow up a bit, okay? Evading the license fee is illegal. I pay it, therefore I get to watch it. If you don't pay, you shouldn't watch. If you disagree, they can come and sue you. And if you don't pay, I hope you get caught, okay?

Edited May 2, 2005 by BlazingTech

[CaKeY]

lol

[ehlo]

No multicast for BT :no:

[Lee G. Veteran]

No multicast for BT  :no:

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None for Tiscali either.

Have I missed something? Why did it work yesterday? :/

[MarkusDarkus]

My god people. Your making such a big deal out of this. :argue:

P.S has anybody noticed that the links at the beginning of this thread are Unicast and not Multicast. if you want multicast you have to change the word 'uni' in teh link to 'multi' :D

P.P.S

this is on the multicast page since it seems like nobody bothered to read it.

http://support.bbc.co.uk/multicast/streams.html

* note unicast is only available by arrangment for testing

[BigCheese]

You sir are an asshat plain and simple.

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What's wrong with what he said? Its perfectly true.

[BlazingTech]

My apologies to Big Cheese - I completely misread his comment. I need lunch.

Edited May 2, 2005 by BlazingTech

[andy2004]

to be honest the license fee needs scrapping and we should be able to subscribe to what bbc channels we want like we do with sky TV.

[BigCheese]

blazingtech, I have no idea what the **** you're talking about.

I was just askign whats wrong with what he said. I think you're being a bigger troll.

Yes I do pay the liscence fee of ?126.50/year. No I don't think its right that others should get what I paid for, for free.

However what you have said is not relevent to what I said.

[CaKeY]

Ooh, lookie here, another troll.

I'm pretty sure he was talking to Oneill... you asshat lol.

[BlazingTech]

BigCheese, my sincerest apologies - rereading what you wrote, I got completely the wrong end of the stick :no: - I'm in a weird mood today, feel urgent need for a cup of tea/coffee. I'm gonna go off to lunch - woke up only a short time ago - maybe my head'll be better later. Again, sorry :(

(I'll edit my earlier post)

Cakey - heh :D

[SiDEBURNS]

BlazingTech, calm down. The BBC are running this as a test. Once this does becomes live then im sure the Beeb will prevent the rest of the world from connecting.

[futb0l]

Sw33t!