Chris Allen Veteran Posted May 3, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 3, 2005 Search under way for crews of aircraft based on USS Carl Vinson BREAKING NEWS NBC News Updated: 7:06 p.m. ET May 2, 2005 WASHINGTON - Navy officials said Monday that two F-18 fighter jets apparently were involved in an "air-to-air collision" over southern Iraq. There was no immediate word on the fate of the crew members. The officials, who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity, said there was "no initial indication that hostile fire" contributed to the loss of the U.S. Marine F/A-18 Hornet aircraft. The fighter jets, based on the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, were reported missing at 10:10 p.m. local time. A statement by the military in Iraq said search efforts were under way and that the status of the crew members was unknown. NBC News producer Scott Foster contributed to this report. Source - http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7713274 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summers Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Sounds fishy to me. The sky is THAT big. How is this possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strekship Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 ^Its not like mid-air collisions haven't happend before. Its possable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted May 3, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 3, 2005 very "possable" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarix Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 i dunno seems fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Thats really strange. They have tons of technology to prevent that, and could even be avoided by using the most basic radar system in case their whole command network goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 well. they usually fly in formation closer than any civilian aircraft are allowed to get to one another so its not that unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchybaby Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The pilots were reportedly wearing night-vision goggles while flying, so seeing as how cumbersome those are (can't imagine how one could fly and wear them at the same time), the end results aren't surprising. /hey, I don't write the news, this is just what I heard on the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. 585863810[/snapback] Yeah, they lie almost as much as ignorant civilians pull sh*t out of their asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerless Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 You can have all the multi-billion dollar aero technology in the world... But Human error will always be present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchybaby Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. 585863810[/snapback] Do you honestly believe that we'd cover it up if in fact another country (presumably a hostile one) shot down 2 of our aircraft? That sort of incident would give the US another reason to bomb the **** out of them. Accidents happen all of the time (in the military). /is former military himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted May 3, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. 585863810[/snapback] I'll believe this story if a non US media source can report on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoXY Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Thats really strange. They have tons of technology to prevent that, and could even be avoided by using the most basic radar system in case their whole command network goes down. 585863787[/snapback] exactly what I was thinking.... :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 many years ago 2 747's collided, that was something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykranth Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I have a question: How much a F/A-18 Hornet cost ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemania Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I have a question: How much a F/A-18 Hornet cost ????? 585865386[/snapback] 29 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurchybaby Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 (edited) many years ago 2 747's collided, that was something 585864606[/snapback] I believe that is/was the worst airline disaster in history. 2 fully loaded 747's collided (on the ground no less) on the Canary Islands. 1 was taxiing on the ground and veered onto the runway where another was in the landing cycle. Something to the tune of roughly 600 dead. /chock full of useless trivia and knowledge Edited May 3, 2005 by Lurchybaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoundToEarth Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I never heard of two planes crashing in mid-air before. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtoomuch Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. 585863810[/snapback] OK Mr. Conspiracy Theory. No wonder your nick is "theyarecomingforyou". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerus Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is the trouble with the amount of lies/propaganda put out by the US government - you don't know whether they actually collided, or whether they were shot down and it is a cover. Either way it doesn't look particularly good for the US. 585863810[/snapback] No kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted May 3, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 3, 2005 oh my at the cost of each jet $$ I hope this isnt real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chorpeac MVC Posted May 3, 2005 MVC Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is rediculous...why doesn't cnn, washington Post, usa today, and etc have any articles about this??? I smell some B.S. and I think I am going to have to get my boots on for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb815 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Wow, what are the odds of something like this happening? I mean the sky is a BIG place. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Wow, what are the odds of something like this happening? I mean the sky is a BIG place.?:huh:: 585868781[/snapback] Yes, it seems odd, but flight have restricted airspace they're allowed to fly in, which puts one limit on where they can fly, and their routes put another limit. If there's one bit of misinformation/misunderstanding from traffic control the results can be fatal. There's some general information about it here, among others on military airspace, shedding some light on the complexity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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