Pit Bulls Rounded up for Destruction in Denver


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Hope you aren't too attached to your pit bull...From the article:

...a woman pleads: "I don't have no dogs!

"There ain't no dogs in the basement!" she yells as the uniformed man and woman, responding to an informant's report of a pit bull, interrogate her. Outside, squad cars filled with police officers wait to see if they are needed.

"I'm just doing my job," the woman officer later laments

An informant...sound so KGBish.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news...3768197,00.html

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They should round up owners who make these dogs agressive before destroying dogs based on breed. :no:

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I soooo agreeee. The owners which make a pitbull a very agressive one, make it bad for other pitbulls. Its so ashamed that society thinks in this maner, and let a bad apple spoil the basket.

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This is the dumbest thing. Denver had this a couple years back, but our Governor overturned it last year. Looks like its back in full force somehow.

Absolutely ridiculous. Think of the countless lawsuits this will undoubtedly entice.

Local government is like a disease. :no:

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I don't have any sympathy for dogs -- (a) because i can't stand them and (b) because some guy's 'pets' killed a teen-age girl near here just a few weeks ago -- but rounding them up and killing them all is... a little harsh. What would be a much better idea, i think, would be to enact super-strict laws regarding how to take care of them. e.g., if you let them go unleashed you get in big trouble, and things like that.

The arguement that pit bulls and Rottweilers and other breeds like that aren't 'naturally' aggressive, i'm not sure i believe that. But even if that is true, there comes a point where you have to start restricting them based on statistics alone. It's like saying that you speed all the time and nobody has ever got hurt. Somebody will.

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I don't have any sympathy for dogs -- (a) because i can't stand them and (b) because some guy's 'pets' killed a girl near here just a few weeks ago -- but rounding them up and killing them all is... a little harsh. What would be a much better idea, i think, would be to enact super-strict laws regarding how to take care of them. e.g., if you let them go unleashed you get in big trouble, and things like that.

The arguement that pit bulls and Rottweilers and other breeds like that aren't 'naturally' aggressive, i'm not sure i believe that. But even if that is true, there comes a point where you have to start restricting them based on statistics alone. It's like saying that you speed all the time and nobody has ever got hurt. Somebody will.

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Exactly...I agree with both of your points. People do need to be held responsible for their animals and they need not let them off a leash in public. Also I don't buy that crap about Pit Bulls and Rotweilers not being aggressive naturally. It's been bred into their bloodlines for hundreds of years. The natural reactions are not going anywhere anytime soon

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Also I don't buy that crap about Pit Bulls and Rotweilers not being aggressive naturally. It's been bred into their bloodlines for hundreds of years. The natural reactions are not going anywhere anytime soon

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So those dogs I see at the dog run are aberrations? Many pits and Rots go there to socialise with dogs and people.

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Not all pit bulls are bad.

A friend of mine had one down the street, and it would just lollip up to me when I came over and start licking me.

Of course it was a very old pit bull that was half blind and fully deaf, but it was still a pit bull!

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I don't have any sympathy for dogs -- (a) because i can't stand them and (b) because some guy's 'pets' killed a teen-age girl near here just a few weeks ago -- but rounding them up and killing them all is... a little harsh. What would be a much better idea, i think, would be to enact super-strict laws regarding how to take care of them. e.g., if you let them go unleashed you get in big trouble, and things like that.

The arguement that pit bulls and Rottweilers and other breeds like that aren't 'naturally' aggressive, i'm not sure i believe that. But even if that is true, there comes a point where you have to start restricting them based on statistics alone. It's like saying that you speed all the time and nobody has ever got hurt. Somebody will.

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A couple days ago, a girl died in an alcohol-related incident in my town. In fact, more people die of alcohol related incidents than pit bulls every year. In America, since 1965, an average of 2.5 people a year died from pit bulls. Think more than 2.5 a year die from alcohol?

Why do people care about something so minor when there are much bigger killers?

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So those dogs I see at the dog run are aberrations? Many pits and Rots go there to socialise with dogs and people.

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one of these dogs can snap and turn on you anytime....that was my point. It's been in their breeding for a long time...it doesn't just go away cause you rub it's belly or play fetch. Hell even prison inmates can be nice and social most of the time.

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A couple days ago, a girl died in an alcohol-related incident in my town.  In fact, more people die of alcohol related incidents than pit bulls every year.  In America, since 1965, an average of 2.5 people a year died from pit bulls.  Think more than 2.5 a year die from alcohol? 

Why do people care about something so minor when there are much bigger killers?

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Yea alcohol doesnt kill, stupid people just die.

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Yea alcohol doesnt kill, stupid people just die.

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The modern natural selection process.. :yes:

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A couple days ago, a girl died in an alcohol-related incident in my town.  In fact, more people die of alcohol related incidents than pit bulls every year.  In America, since 1965, an average of 2.5 people a year died from pit bulls.  Think more than 2.5 a year die from alcohol? 

Why do people care about something so minor when there are much bigger killers?

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Gee, i don't know. Maybe 'cause people still die from somebody's dumb-ass irresponsible actions? There are tons of restrictions on alcohol. They even tried to ban it altogether once, you remember that?

A really really fast Internet search says that 27 people died in 1997 and 1998 as a result of dog attacks. 60% of those attacks involved Rottweilers and pit bulls. Since 1979, Rottweilers and pit bulls were involved in over 50% of ALL fatal dog attacks.

Firstly, it's my opinion that pretty much ALL dogs should be restrained, at all times, pit bull, poodle, collie, or any other breed. But even taking pit bulls and Rottweilers alone and putting restrictions on them would either have reduced the number of deaths or (at the very least) resulted in harsher punishment for the idiots whose dogs were involved in the attacks.

This isn't about going out of your way to get yourself into some gigantic complicated mess of rules and regulations and stuff. Restrictions on unleashed dogs. Simple stuff. End of story.

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I would honestly like to know what the fascination with Pitbulls and Rotweilers is all about. On my college campus I could drive up the road and see some dumb**** walking a 10lb Pitbull puppy on a 30lb chain. I'm not talking a little chain leash, but an actual chain you would use to tow a car or something. It must be mandatory for the "hardass" wannabes.

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Cant stand people punishing aggresive dogs that are the direct cause of A-hole owners creating their personality to be that way. Hate frickin animal abuse.

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one of these dogs can snap and turn on you anytime....that was my point.

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What are you basing this on? A chihuahua can do that too, but they're "cute" and so not targeted. Dalmatians are so inbred now, they're like a bomb waiting to go off, but you don't hear calls for their destruction.

It's been in their breeding for a long time...it doesn't just go away cause you rub it's belly or play fetch.

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Any dog can be aggressive with the "proper" training, and any dog can be sociable with the proper upbringing. Don't be scared of breeds, be scared of the owner's screwed up thinking when he trained his dog.

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my mom had a 40lb 8 month old pitbull (don't remeber the exact breed) about 2 months ago, my mom's friend with 2 big (some sorta pitbull substitute dogs so they're legal here, ______dog) dogs and my little dog just lost it, ran at the one dog and knocked over my sister, dragged the big dog (120lbs) into another room, then the owner went in between them and my dog pulled him to the ground by the wrist and dragged him into the kitchen, then his wife stepped in and he dragged her back into the living room before my mom could kick the dog outside. the guy got a broken wrist and arm and the woman needed a transfusion after.

this dog was my little brother and sister's, 5 and 8, and if they wanted to ride on him, they could, if they said sit in the chair, he'd stop what he was doing and go curl up and close his eyes. he was the nicest little dog, no one was ever mean to him, but he just snapped at another dog and took out some people on the way. after he was his regular self, and my mom only had to say hop up in the truck to him to go with animal control.

I'm fully for the ban on pitbulls, and think it should be extended to other dangerous breeds.

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What are you basing this on? A chihuahua can do that too, but they're "cute" and so not targeted. Dalmatians are so inbred now, they're like a bomb waiting to go off, but you don't hear calls for their destruction.

Any dog can be aggressive with the "proper" training, and any dog can be sociable with the proper upbringing. Don't be scared of breeds, be scared of the owner's screwed up thinking when he trained his dog.

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my mom had a 40lb 8 month old pitbull (don't remeber the exact breed) about 2 months ago, my mom's friend with 2 big (some sorta pitbull substitute dogs so they're legal here, ______dog) dogs and my little dog just lost it, ran at the one dog and knocked over my sister, dragged the big dog (120lbs) into another room, then the owner went in between them and my dog pulled him to the ground by the wrist and dragged him into the kitchen, then his wife stepped in and he dragged her back into the living room before my mom could kick the dog outside. the guy got a broken wrist and arm and the woman needed a transfusion after.

this dog was my little brother and sister's, 5 and 8, and if they wanted to ride on him, they could, if they said sit in the chair, he'd stop what he was doing and go curl up and close his eyes. he was the nicest little dog, no one was ever mean to him, but he just snapped at another dog and took out some people on the way. after he was his regular self, and my mom only had to say hop up in the truck to him to go with animal control.

I'm fully for the ban on pitbulls, and think it should be extended to other dangerous breeds.

This kind of crap happens all the time with agressive breeds of dogs (ie: Pitbulls, Rots, Etc..) It isn't something that a loving owner can fully remove from the dogs characteristics...it's in their blood.

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There is no such thing as "agressive breeds" you throw that phrase around like it's actually the truth. Theres only such a thing as agressive raising of a dog, and in that case the owner is to blame not the dog. A few bad apples don't make the basket bad.

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There is no such thing as "agressive breeds" you throw that phrase around like it's actually the truth. Theres only such a thing as agressive raising of a dog, and in that case the owner is to blame not the dog. A few bad apples don't make the basket bad.

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I totally agree with you. There is no aggressive breed. I have a lot friends who have/had rottweilers and some have given them away because they don?t know how to train and handle them, It all comes down to how you handle your dog and how you train your dog. You can raise a rottweilers and pitbulls and they can be as gentle as a mouse. If a dog attacks another animal or person, BLAME THE OWNER.

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so in my case you're blaming my mother, 5 year old brother, and 8 year old sister for raising their dog to be aggressive, give me a break, it was the nicest dog to people and it snapped.

after it attacked the dog and 2 people, the police were pressing the couple to charge my mother, but they both said no way because it was such a nice gentle dog, and because there would be no point in charging a single mother $10000 for a dog attack. everyone who met that dog loved it, and thought it would be the last dog on earth to ever do something like that.

it is bred into the species. saying it's not is like saying if you properly raised a boy, he wouldn't ever be gay, because it's all behavior and upbringing, I'd like to see anyone here hold up that position.

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so in my case you're blaming my mother, 5 year old brother, and 8 year old sister for raising their dog to be aggressive, give me a break, it was the nicest dog to people and it snapped.

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Sorry, but yes I am. Bringing dogs who don't live together in a home at the same time can set off any number of defensive reactions. Possesiveness over family, a ball, food dish or toy can easily be a contributing factor. Dogs who are not socialised to other dogs can be the nicest pets to humans, but vicious to other animals. The person's job is to supervise animals and to curb any undesired behaviour. If you can't understand bog behaviour, don't own a dog.

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they were bread to fight....how is this not an aggressive breed?

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No, they were bred to win fights. They still had to be taught to be aggressive. Dobermann's were bred to be loyal guard dogs, and people are still scared of them for that also.

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they were bread to fight....how is this not an aggressive breed?

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Not everyone breeds pits/rottweillers (sp?) to fight. And if you think so then you need to travel to other parts of the world buddy.

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No, they were bred to win fights. They still had to be taught to be aggressive. Dobermann's were bred to be loyal guard dogs, and people are still scared of them for that also.

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so that would mean that they would be MORE agressive if they are bread to win fights....

think about what you say first...make sure its logical

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