Pit Bulls Rounded up for Destruction in Denver


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Not everyone breeds pits/rottweillers (sp?) to fight. And if you think so then you need to travel to other parts of the world buddy.

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they were ORIGIONALLY bread to fight, that instict is STILL in them. unless you breed them with other dogs that were not ment to fight, but then you dont have a pitbull (useing them as example)

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Sorry, but yes I am. Bringing dogs who don't live together in a home at the same time can set off any number of defensive reactions. Possesiveness over family, a ball, food dish or toy can easily be a contributing factor. Dogs who are not socialised to other dogs can be the nicest pets to humans, but vicious to other animals. The person's job is to supervise animals and to curb any undesired behaviour. If you can't understand bog behaviour, don't own a dog.

No, they were bred to win fights. They still had to be taught to be aggressive. Dobermann's were bred to be loyal guard dogs, and people are still scared of them for that also.

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wouldn't "any number of defense reactions", ie it attacking the other dog, be an inbred aggressive nature? explain how it wouldn't be.

the dog was around lots of other pets, cats, dogs, goats, rats, rabbits, it didn't attack any of those.

the species was bred and taught to be aggressive, for many years, and that is still in there now, even if you don't breed and teach it to be aggressive.

Not everyone breeds pits/rottweillers (sp?) to fight. And if you think so then you need to travel to other parts of the world buddy.

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what do you mean other parts of the world. I live in canada...they don't have dog fights here, dunno what you're talking about.

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I mean that not Everyone ( because he basically stated that the breed itself is agressive) So i stated that not is not true bro. not EVERYONE breeds dogs to be agressive. Because last time i checked pitbulls dont roam free in the countryside breeding themselves.

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I mean that not Everyone ( because he basically stated that the breed itself is agressive) So i stated that not is not true bro. not EVERYONE breeds dogs to be agressive. Because last time i checked pitbulls dont roam free in the countryside breeding themselves.

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man

its the same reason birds fly south for the winter

INSTINCT

christ, think about what your saying...

some breeds are just AGGRESSIVE. its called natural selection. when a species breeds (in nature or by man) the BEST qualities are passed on (strengh, intelligence) its going to happen no matter how they are bread.

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my source??

school

have you been?

i would highly suggest it if not!

its a wonderful place full of learning and common sence

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my source??

school

have you been?

i would highly suggest it if not!

its a wonderful place full of learning and common sence

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Don't resort to personal attacks, I went 2 yrs college in AZ. So yeah, don't assume that i never went to school homie. Also, i grew up in the ghettos of South Sacramento, CA And i know an agressive Pit or Rott when i see one but thats just it, it's the ghetto! most (notice how i don't stereo type because i dont know everyone or met everyone) breed there dogs for fighting.

But even there not EVERYONE'S dogs were fighting dogs, this is because their owner(s) brought it up in a gentle manner and showed the dog love and not fighting. And I'd learn to spell a bit better, because obviously you need to learn so.

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And I'd learn to spell a bit better, because obviously you need to learn so.

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he spelt sense wrong, you spelt aggressive wrong, and used the wrong there at least twice.

don't resort to personal attacks.

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im not talking about people that bring the dogs up aggressively

im saying that NO MATTER HOW the dog is brought up, if it was origionally bread to fight (no matter how long ago it was) the dog still has the instinct to fight and be aggressive, its just not always brought out. its still there and can still be used.

the only time you would not have a dog with an aggressive nature is when you cross breed it with another breed. then you dont have that dog any more.

Edit: http://www.biology-online.org/2/10_natural_selection.htm

Read that

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im not talking about people that bring the dogs up aggressively

im saying that NO MATTER HOW the dog is brought up, if it was origionally bread to fight (no matter how long ago it was) the dog still has the instinct to fight and be aggressive, its just not always brought out. its still there and can still be used.

the only time you would not have a dog with an aggressive nature is when you cross breed it with another breed. then you dont have that dog any more.

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And from my experiences and what i grew up around, i say you are still wrong. Snd these were owner who had 5,6, 8 yr old kids tuggin on the dogs ears, yanking it's tail and such. Never had those dogs ever attacked the children or growled at them. The kids themselves were warned ( by me sometimes if i knew the family, although i'd just show them how to treat a dog instead of scolding them) so yeah, your wrong. At least in my opinion ;)

edit: And the cross breeding part you are STILL wrong, because i had a dog who was half WOLF and malamute(sp?) and he would flip out once in awhile, so yeah..... now as far as im concerned Wolves are more of a wild breed than pits ever were.

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im not talking about people that bring the dogs up aggressively

im saying that NO MATTER HOW the dog is brought up, if it was origionally bread to fight (no matter how long ago it was) the dog still has the instinct to fight and be aggressive, its just not always brought out. its still there and can still be used.

the only time you would not have a dog with an aggressive nature is when you cross breed it with another breed. then you dont have that dog any more.

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I think you could probably pin an attack or fatality on any breed. But nowhere near the amount of attacks of any one breed could compare to Pitbulls or Rottweilers etc...(Aggressive Breeds). The reason I say they are aggressive is because...well...they are. Pits for example were bred for many years to fight other dogs for entertainment purposes. So they can't exactly shake this instinct...it's in their stock to fight. I myself have 2 English Bulldogs, which are from a branch of the pitbull terrior bloodines. And even they act really unpredictable sometimes (normally around other dogs though).

I think we all know that pits and rots can be great dogs if raised properly, but even so they can snap and revert back to their instincts and become a danger. Alot of dogs are like this too, probably all, but there aren't many that are known for doing this nearly as often.

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And from my experiences and what i grew up around, i say you are still srong. Snd these were owner who had 5,6, 8 yr old kids tuggin on the dogs ears, yanking it's tail and such. Never had those dogs ever attacked the children or growled at them. The kids themselves were warned ( by me sometimes if i knew the family, although i'd just show them how to treat a dog instead of scolding them) so yeah, your wrong. At least in my opinion ;)

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I said that the dog was raised around the kids, and never attacked or nipped at them, and that it snapped and attacked a dog and 2 people.

I used it as an argument that the dog was nice and raised around nice people, and yuo used it as a counter example, that makes no sense.

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thank you, you cant shake something that was bread in to you

some one takes a swing at you

your natural reaction is to try and block it

its not because your parents told you to.

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I think you could probably pin an attack or fatality on any breed. But nowhere near the amount of attacks of any one breed could compare to Pitbulls or Rottweilers etc...(Aggressive Breeds). The reason I say they are aggressive is because...well...they are. Pits for example were bred for many years to fight other dogs for entertainment purposes. So they can't exactly shake this instinct...it's in their stock to fight. I myself have 2 English Bulldogs, which are from a branch of the pitbull terrior bloodines. And even they act really unpredictable sometimes (normally around other dogs though).

I think we all know that pits and rots can be great dogs if raised properly, but even so they can snap and revert back to their instincts and become a danger. Alot of dogs are like this too, probably all, but there aren't many that are known for doing this nearly as often.

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that's exactly what I've been saying.

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I said that the dog was raised around the kids, and never attacked or nipped at them, and that it snapped and attacked a dog and 2 people.

I used it as an argument that the dog was nice and raised around nice people, and yuo used it as a counter example, that makes no sense.

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I wasn't referring to you. ;)

Anyways, i believe what i believe and you guys believe what you believe. I'm done with this thread, there's no point in further trying to debate this matter.

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I thought I read here before that it's not that the Pitbull is overly agressive but overly protective. If it's in a household with a child or something and one day it sees a stranger getting close to the child, it's natural instincts is to protect the child. I think they belive the child is one of their own. That's not the breeds fault. It's the owner. You're supposed to research what type of dog is suitable for your household. Other than that, I think there should be better laws related to pitbulls.

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I wasn't referring to you. ;)

Anyways, i believe what i believe and you guys believe what you believe. I'm done with this thread, there's no point in further trying to debate this matter.

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"Quitter never win and winners never quit" :p

I guess it doesn't hurt to agree to disagree :)

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I thought I read here before that it's not that the Pitbull is overly agressive but overly protective. If it's in a household with a child or something and one day it sees a stranger getting close to the child, it's natural instincts is to protect the child. I think they belive the child is one of their own. That's not the breeds fault. It's the owner. You're supposed to research what type of dog is suitable for your household. Other than that, I think there should be better laws related to pitbulls.

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that makes no sense, wouldn't it be better if the animal is protective of your children? and how is it being protective the owners fault.

if it's a burgular, I'd want it to be protective, if it is just that. I don't however want a dog that will just go crazy and attack everything.

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I was talking about some/most of the pitbull attacks (atleast the ones against non immediate family members) being the owner's fault. They didn't initiate it but it's their fault for not researching the breed better.

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so you're saying it is inbred into the breed for them to be aggressive...that's what we're saying, that would make it NOT the owners fault.

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so that would mean that they would be MORE agressive if they are bread to win fights....

think about what you say first...make sure its logical

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It is. They bred the physical characteristics. If the dog was large and sturdy, it would be more likely to win. Nothing to do with an aggressive nature.

wouldn't "any number of defense reactions", ie it attacking the other dog, be an inbred aggressive nature? explain how it wouldn't be.

the dog was around lots of other pets, cats, dogs, goats, rats, rabbits, it didn't attack any of those.

the species was bred and taught to be aggressive, for many years, and that is still in there now, even if you don't breed and teach it to be aggressive.

what do you mean other parts of the world.  I live in canada...they don't have dog fights here, dunno what you're talking about.

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You use "inbred" a lot, look it up.

Did you see what you wrote? They had to be taught to be aggressive, it's not a natural state for them, beyond the neccessary hunting instinct.

I think you could probably pin an attack or fatality on any breed. But nowhere near the amount of attacks of any one breed could compare to Pitbulls or Rottweilers etc...(Aggressive Breeds). The reason I say they are aggressive is because...well...they are. Pits for example were bred for many years to fight other dogs for entertainment purposes. So they can't exactly shake this instinct...it's in their stock to fight. I myself have 2 English Bulldogs, which are from a branch of the pitbull terrior bloodines. And even they act really unpredictable sometimes (normally around other dogs though).

I think we all know that pits and rots can be great dogs if raised properly, but even so they can snap and revert back to their instincts and become a danger. Alot of dogs are like this too, probably all, but there aren't many that are known for doing this nearly as often.

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You type Aggressive Breeds like it's a Kennal Club recognised breed.

Every dog can snap and revert to their instincts. Those instincts are; protecting themselves from harm, protecting their food supply, protecting their young, etc. This is why you train puppies to let you handle their food and body and why you train them not to bite when you do it.

I said that the dog was raised around the kids, and never attacked or nipped at them, and that it snapped and attacked a dog and 2 people.

I used it as an argument that the dog was nice and raised around nice people, and yuo used it as a counter example, that makes no sense.

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The new dog was a new part of your equation. My dog is happy-go-lucky all the time, but if an unfamiliar dog, or even a dog he knows but has never seen in his house comes in, he may behave totally differently.

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You type Aggressive Breeds like it's a Kennal Club recognised breed.

Every dog can snap and revert to their instincts. Those instincts are; protecting themselves from harm, protecting their food supply, protecting their young, etc. This is why you train puppies to let you handle their food and body and why you train them not to bite when you do it.

Sure everydog can revert back to instinct (like I said earlier). It's just that breeds that have been bred to fight (wouldn't want to call them aggresive) seem to do it much more often and to a higher degree.

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