kombolcha Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/n...ws/11623627.htm LAKE GENEVA, Wis. - A high school senior who thought it would be funny to wear a dress to his prom was ticketed $249 for disorderly conduct, suspended for three days and banned from his last track meet.School district administrator Jim Gottinger said the discipline was for more than just the dress, noting Kerry Lofy, 18, was dancing in a sexually provocative manner at the prom, according to a police report. Lofy doubts that was the real reason he was disciplined Monday. "The whole night was that kind of dancing. They can't single me out and say, 'Oh it was you, it was only you,'" he said. "I think it's over the dress." Lofy said Lake Geneva Badger High had no problem letting him go to Saturday's prom with another male, but that school officials drew the line at his dress. "I thought it would be more appropriate for there to be one person dressed like a girl and a person dressed like a guy, than for there to be two guys to go," said Lofy, a member of the school's track, ski, powerlifting and soccer teams. Also, he thought people would find it funny to see a 6-foot, 185-pound male in a black, stretchy, spaghetti-strap dress. When Lofy showed up in the dress, a blond wig, open-toed platform sandals, blue earrings and a necklace, teachers turned him away. He said he showed up later with a tan-and-black plaid leisure suit over the dress, went inside and whipped off the suit during a dance-off. A security guard escorted him out, he said. Lofy said when he went to school Monday, the school liaison police officer issued the disorderly conduct ticket. "They thought I was mocking the school," he said. no comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Pretty lame, i think. The fact that he was turned away from the start completely invalidates any claim that they have of him dancing provocatively. I think students (male or female) should be allowed to wear pretty much whatever they want to prom, as long as it sufficiently covers their body, unless the prom is paid for by a private group that decides on a clear dress code before-hand. I really want to know how he could bear to have the dress under his tux though. That's really uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coy0te Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Good he deserves it. There is such a thing as dress code, it's no different to him having to state "male" on official documents it?s not discrimination its just sensible protocol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvbfan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 This happened when I was in school as well back in the late 70's. I guess my parents were right. There is nothing that you can do that we haven't tried before... SO DON"T!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Good he deserves it. There is such a thing as dress code, it's no different to him having to state "male" on official documents it’s not discrimination its just sensible protocol585907611[/snapback] ... That is completely different, what the hell are you talking about? Lying about statistical data on a government document is not at all the same thing as wearing clothes somebody doesn't like to a party. Also, i think that if the school could have justified kicking the kid out by saying 'oh, there was a dress code, see, it's right here', they would have. The fact that they're not pointing to a dress code to defend their actions suggests that there probably wasn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 he deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 12, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2005 What the... Man, some schools are just stupid, i can see the fun/joke in this, why cant they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitsuneTsuki Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 What the...Man, some schools are just stupid, i can see the fun/joke in this, why cant they? 585907698[/snapback] Nope. Schools don't have a sense of humor. It's simply not allowed. Beatings will continue until morale improves. -KT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coy0te Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 lol I knew I shouldnt have said that, I was kinda distracted when i typed it. Anyway if you go to a classy bar or country club with a green mowhawk with a spikey leather coller chances are you are going to be asked to leave. We live in a world with rules (spoken and clear) deal with it, theres no point in being a keybord warrior and be all up in arms about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 lol I knew I shouldnt have said that, I was kinda distracted when i typed it. Anyway if you go to a classy bar or country club with a green mowhawk with a spikey leather coller chances are you are going to be asked to leave. We live in a world with rules (spoken and clear) deal with it, theres no point in being a keybord warrior and be all up in arms about it585907728[/snapback] Bars and country clubs are private establishments that probably have a policy in writing regarding a person's appearance. I'm guessing the prom didn't, because the school would have used that as a defence if it did. Also, either the prom was privately organised by the students (in which case it would be up to the students, not the teachers, to decide the dress code) or it was organised by a public institution of education, which (i think) shouldn't have any business deciding what people wear unless their clothing is dangerous (a dress isn't) or it's a huge distraction to education (and prom isn't really an educational setting, so that doesn't even apply). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarix Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 i dunno what the hell is wrong with half the people who commented but, whats wrong with some humor once and a while, damn stiffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coy0te Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Goverment offices have dress code they arent private.....Whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Government offices are places of employment. Schools are places of learning. And this wasn't even school, it was prom. And, AGAIN, the government offices have dress codes in writing. You can't just have some teacher stand at the door and have him be your dress code. If you have a dress code, you must make it clear that there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 if he's straight i got nothing against him wearing a dress, it's all a bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 He obviously just did it to get attention and cause problems, so I say they were right in suspending him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Douglas Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Goverment offices have dress code they arent private.....Whats your point? 585907739[/snapback] But this prom did not have a dress code (as lav-chan mentioned, it would have been used as a defense) or that it atleast did not mention anything gender specific. The government shouldn't be able to retroactively apply a dress code (as they shouldn't be able to retroactively apply any law). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 if he's straight i got nothing against him wearing a dress, it's all a bit of fun. 585907752[/snapback] ... And if he's not straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coy0te Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Question: Why cant I walk in to the prom a dominatrix uniform? or in a big banana outfit? Why wouldnt I ware it to a wedding or any other special occasion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 ... And if he's not straight? i wont reply to that, you're just going to try start a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Question: Why cant I walk in to the prom a dominatrix uniform? or in a big banana outfit? Why wouldnt I ware it to a wedding or any other special occasion? 585907775[/snapback] A dominatrix get-up is probably too provocative. Doesn't sufficiently cover your body. Banana costume, though? Go for it, i'd lol. Why wouldn't you wear it to a wedding? I guess because the people holding the wedding wouldn't like it. But, again, those are private citizens, and you're there to show respect for their unity, not to boogie down with your friends. i wont reply to that, you're just going to try start a fight 585907781[/snapback] Shouldn't have made the comment in the first place if you weren't willing to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coy0te Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Prom is a comming of age celerbration though isnt that somthing you should respect? Plus it was a school function so school rules apply, thus your point is invalid. Unless you havent moved from your keybord in quite a while you will realise that men wearing dresses isnt normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverti Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 :huh: :no: :o :pinch: :rofl: :D :woot: no other comment from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lav-chan Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Prom is a comming of age celerbration though isnt that somthing you should respect?585907804[/snapback] I can't believe you are going to sit there and try to compare the reverance someone should have for the symbolic bonding of two people who love each other with the reverance someone should have for a high-school dance. Seriously, who really needs to step away from their keyboard here? Plus it was a school function so school rules apply, thus your point is invalid.585907804[/snapback] Do you think so? My high school had a dress code. Do you think someone (a girl) could have worn a prom dress on a regular school day? You know, probably not. So i'm guessing that, no, school rules do not necessarily apply. Additionally, 'school rules' are policies that are put down in writing. If there is a school rule that says boys can not wear dresses to prom written down in the rule book, i would love to see it. Unless you havent moved from your keybord in quite a while you will realise that men wearing dresses isnt normal.585907804[/snapback] Well, i'll tell you something. I moved from my keyboard a few weeks ago, when i actually attended a prom. And you know what? I didn't dress normal. I wore a 3/4-sleeve button-up, black pants, and some black Oxfords i bought at Fashion Bug. I used the ribbons from the candles to put my hair in pig tails, and i didn't bother to take my jelly bracelets off before i went in. I got a few looks, but not too many. And, you know, if they wanted to kick me out, i would have loved to see them try, because i VERY highly doubt that they had a rule written down anywhere that said i couldn't dress the way i did. Furthermore, what the hell kind of stupid thing to say is 'men wearing dresses isnt normal'? So what? What does that have to do with anything? The absolute bottom line is that if there is a rule regarding something, IT MUST BE MADE APPARENT. If the school did not, before-hand, clearly establish a dress code, it could NOT enforce one. PERIOD. Why is this such a difficult concept for you to understand? RULES MUST BE MADE APPARENT. YOU CAN NOT MAKE THEM UP ON THE SPOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curme Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 [sarcasm] I'm just glad a girl didn't try to show up in long pants![/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanneh Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 He Deserves it. when he realises this maybe they will treat him with some respect again at the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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