matt74441 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Hey, I use ZoneAlarm Security Suite :x and I use it's ad blockerDoes anyone know which server to unblock to ads? or just www.neowin.net Thanks and this is my contribution :) 585915111[/snapback] Well I use Kerip and I think that you can set exceptions in both of them. I personally don't block ads on the Internet. As long as they aren't popups, then I honestly don't care about them. Plus most sites seem to be using Google text ads, which are the least intrusive ads on the Internet. Oh well, I try to click the ads on Neowin a couple of times a day. I'm not renewing my subscription here, but I'm going to try to give $20 or $30 to the site whenever I put money into my PayPal account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 (edited) Im the same, my filter set up is really restrictive, and it blocks pretty much every ad.I do want to help though, i am a subscriber (although with the bandwidth bill, dont suppose that really helps) The problem is i dont really click on ads (although google adsense ad's are the best, they actually relate to the page im looking at) they never interest me, if i want to find a program, or a company to get services off, ill google around for the best deal/feature set. 585912818[/snapback] I rarely notice them even if I have them enabled actually. Plus I block any ad on sight. ;) I have few reasons not to view ads,(1) Ads often promote spyware The "Next Generation Smilies", or the "Sexy Wallpapers", or "Your Internet is slow, Accelerate it!", and few other thousand intrusive adverts. Whether its text-based, or picture based, most advertisers generate alot of revenue from spyware or spyware-related tools. Its all bad. (2) Ads often carry cookies, which I feel intrudes on my privacy Logging infomation about myself, another reason why I dont click on them, hell even a huge amount of javascript trackers annoy me. intellitxt.com, alexa.com etc, no privacy here :( (3) Ads distract my viewing pleasure I view the content on the internet, not for the ads, but the content. Having some flashing banner ad telling me "click here" can be distracting from the main article. The Fact is, most sites only use banner ads as the *only* income, and to pay for an ad-free service can be expensive or in some cases theres no option to remove the banner ads. I'm not to refering to neowin here (as its good value), but in more general terms. By blocking the adverts that I wouldnt click on *ever*, I'm not harming the industry. I'm also saving bandwidth for both myself, and the server. 585913112[/snapback] Those are some good points you have there. :) Moral=Shut up. 585913255[/snapback] :laugh: :laugh: If you actually look at the URL of the ad you're blocking, you can filtre by customer. I block very obtrusive Adsense ads on another site, but Neowin's show just fine. 585913359[/snapback] I never knew that; cool. :) Top right, Paypal button.https://www.neowin.net/aboutus.php 585914086[/snapback] You should put that on more pages. As rarely anyone goes to the Contact Page. Text link in the footer helps. :) about the ads, do we need to clic and visit the site so you can get the money out of it or just by display em you receive the money?thanks oh and for those using Firefox adblock, there is an advanced version which has a whitelist :D perfect to add neowin.net in the whitelist and help our favorite site :) links: icon in statusbar Txt in statusbar 585914297[/snapback] Excellent. Thanks alot, finalcut. I'm installing this right after I post this! :) edit // installed. now how do I configure it to unblock neowin? edit2 // ok, i figured out that i have to add @@neowin.net as a filter, restarted fx, but still not unblock all ads. :( Edited May 14, 2005 by tm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 try http://ads.neowin.net or *.google.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 I didn't read the full topic because it seems like everyone is crying about the ads and blocking them... Why? Why would you do that? You are using this site for free and you even can't contributre with leaving the ads open or clicking them? Nice guy you are. :no: Do they interupt you while reading neowin? I don't think they do. Two at the top of the page and one at the bottom. Nicely out of the way of all topics, I see no hurt here so why would you? Support Neowin. You can do it by using the ads so you don't even have to be subscriber. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I am well within my rights to block any ads i see fit, wether you think its right or not. I dont pay my isp subs to look at adverts all day. 585910182[/snapback] Its a previlage to be a member on Neowin. Dont bite the hand that feeds you... If this site went under, there's about a zillion others that could replace it in 10 seconds. Unfortunately. 585912649[/snapback] Name one. As I dont know any that is as informative and meets what Im looking for in a tech/community site. Thats so true, but as long as Neowin is visited as well as it is theres no reason to assume we could be replaced 'easily'. 585912778[/snapback] As I said.....I dont think there is much out there that can really replace Neowin I remember to this day a Member of staff giving me a warning for something that I still cannot fathom even now. There was absolutely nothing in the rules about what I did, I wasn't asked to stop by anyone, I just got warned without, er, any warning. I stress there was absolutely no way of knowing beforehand that what I did was breaking any rules. That was just grossly over-reactive, sheer weight-throwing indulgence, and, I dare say, a little bit personal. 585913051[/snapback] This happens alot from Neowin's mods. Power hungry I call it but hey you part of this site? It has its ups and downs. We all gotta accept it and move on This is all off topic. If you have a problem with me, PM me or a supervisor about it. 585914556[/snapback] OT but there are supervisors that supervise mods? Could you tell me the usernames of some of them for future accidents that may occur? Anyways my opinion on this whole thing; I personally dont mind the ads on Neowin. I dont even notice them. I would give money but I dont do that Paypal stuff. Do what you gotta do to stay up Neowin. Thats all I want :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowcra Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Neobond, i 100% agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 OT but there are supervisors that supervise mods? Could you tell me the usernames of some of them for future accidents that may occur? 585928223[/snapback] https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...ndpost&p=947295 https://www.neowin.net/aboutus.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 OT but there are supervisors that supervise mods? Could you tell me the usernames of some of them for future accidents that may occur? 585928223[/snapback] Kinda why we are called Supervisors. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_INk Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I am well within my rights to block any ads i see fit, wether you think its right or not. I dont pay my isp subs to look at adverts all day. 585910182[/snapback] but the next logical response would b 'but none of the moneys u pay to your isp are seen by neowin' - i'll b honest tho- i block all ads on one of my machines (all), but my laptop remains unblocked, so when i post from it on neowin i see the ads. (i won't b blocking ads on my laptop, i post from it most of the time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Ads are what make the internet free in essence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skase Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Going back to something that was said earlier about "ads not being annoying"or breaking content: that isn't my experience. The Text ads still break at sane resolutions in Safari & Omniweb on a 1024x768 display. I reported this problem nearly a year ago and it's still around. Using omniweb with the tab drawer open or safari with a sidebar (saft) breaks the front page news comments pages. If you move the OS X dock to the side of the screen (at default sizing) the ads will still encroach on the content. For some people blocking ads isn't about wanting to deprive neowin of revenue, it's about wanting to use the site without trying to decipher "muddy" content or changing our usage habits. I'd be happy to add neowin to my whitelist (whenever I reinstall pithhelmet) if the advertising wouldn't distort the content. Ars Technica has been working great for me so it's entirely possible. The question is whether it's worth the developer time to fix a bug for users of a minority platform like OS X. EDIT: This screenshot shows "roughly" the display area when i have the sidebar on or tab drawer open on this system. Sometimes it's a smaller area, sometimes it's larger (depending on what else I'm doing at the time) 9/10 times I'll have about a 850-950 pixel wide content area for web pages to render themselves in. I find 1000 pixels is the minum width for neowin to display consistently display without error. 585916727[/snapback] Yes i get that problem too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 Going back to something that was said earlier about "ads not being annoying"or breaking content: that isn't my experience. The Text ads still break at sane resolutions in Safari & Omniweb on a 1024x768 display. I reported this problem nearly a year ago and it's still around. Using omniweb with the tab drawer open or safari with a sidebar (saft) breaks the front page news comments pages. If you move the OS X dock to the side of the screen (at default sizing) the ads will still encroach on the content. For some people blocking ads isn't about wanting to deprive neowin of revenue, it's about wanting to use the site without trying to decipher "muddy" content or changing our usage habits. I'd be happy to add neowin to my whitelist (whenever I reinstall pithhelmet) if the advertising wouldn't distort the content. Ars Technica has been working great for me so it's entirely possible. The question is whether it's worth the developer time to fix a bug for users of a minority platform like OS X. EDIT: This screenshot shows "roughly" the display area when i have the sidebar on or tab drawer open on this system. Sometimes it's a smaller area, sometimes it's larger (depending on what else I'm doing at the time) 9/10 times I'll have about a 850-950 pixel wide content area for web pages to render themselves in. I find 1000 pixels is the minum width for neowin to display consistently display without error. 585916727[/snapback] I also have that problem in Safari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 (edited) Ads don't bother me. They're so unobtrusive more so obscure that I don't even notice them. I decided since I've been here so long and Neowin is my favorite place on the web that I would subscribe. I've even thought about donating money to Neowin to help the server costs. Something I consider everyday. In all honesty I don't block the ads, nor do I click on them. The ads just don't interest me. They never have. I've brought up this point before and I'm bringing it up again. If Neowin had more Computer based advertisements I might be inclined to click on them more often and participate in their offers. If we had ads from companies like HP/DELL/IBM/INTEL etc I'm sure I would click on them. Perhaps I'm just blind and I never see these types... I don?t know. Most of the time the ads are things which have no meaning to me. For example right now the ad I see at the top of my screen is for "POP-UP BLOCKER DOWNLOAD". What the hell is this going to do for me? Why should I waste my time clicking on that ad when I have a built in pop-up blocker in FireFox. I think that?s my point. Personally again if the ads were more interesting I would click on them more often. Edited May 31, 2005 by Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreuger Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 I may be an idiot but I just noticed the ads now, after seeing this post. I guess they're just that unobtrusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbbl Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Good thing you can block ads with FireFox, makes web browsing so much nicer on add heavy sites. I think Neowin's ads aren't so bad thou. I haven't blocked them .... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 can someone please kill this freaken ad! http://a1444.g.akamai.net/7/1444/1104/1116...atsa_052005.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 well i know this sounds stupid but i would not mind paying say $10 a month to not see adverts, think about it, if you get say 10 people a month to sign up you have already made $100 thats month :) And its on the way to keeping the servers paied for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted June 9, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 9, 2005 very annoying ad: http://www.burstnet.com/gifs/travelexpress_hmover_080403.gif *shudders* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted June 11, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 11, 2005 no more complaining about ads. Neobond has made it very clear he's tired of people singling out individual ads just because they don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Well, here's my opinion. I haven't read this entire thread replies but many things I'd want to say have already been said. Anyway: I've been using internet since I was 9. I'm 17 now. Throught all those years, I've got used not to click on ads. Not just that, I just ignore them, as if they didn't even exist. That explains that I had not realised, until now, that there ware banners in this forum. And I'm serious! Even when it is impossible to ignore them visually (specially those flash banners), I just don't click on them. I'm a hard nut to crack for banners :p There are not too much banners I would really click on. I've never blocked ads, just popups I use firefox but I don't use any extension. I might consider installing a better pop-up blocker anyway, because firefox's one is starting to fail already. Popups are the only things I block, I hate them. My point is, no offence, that it is impossible to pretend everyone to click on a banner. Some people block banners, or ignore them just like I do. I think they have their right to block them. Some people have said in this post that banners really HELP internet, because they can help paying the servers or something. IMO, if they really helped, there would be no need to ask people to click on them. Lots of times have I read on a webpage "click on the banner to support this website!". The only good aspect of that is that people who like the website won't matter clicking on a banner and then closing the page they have got onto. Well, that's low, from a bit twisted point of view. So... Someone is paying you (I'm not talking about neowin, but in general) because you are putting an ad in your heavy-visited website,because that someone is expecting your visitors to show interest in their products or whatever. But the most you want from your visitors is to click on that ad so you can get your money. So, it's not right to complain about a banner, but it's right to make someone waste its money? To be true, those who click on a banner to support a website don't give a **** about where the banner leads to. I know, I know, these are business. So my conclusions: -> I like neowin. If I had the money (I'm 17, still studying and all those things) I'd really pay for a subscription. Really, they ain't that expensive. -> Encouraging people to click on a banner for any reason beyond the content of the banner might be seen as a fraud (google adsense rules, for example). -> Everybody has their rights to block/ignore/click on ads. That's my point! You can't really change people internet habits. If people don't click on banners is because there's nothing in those banners useful for them. (And you can say: of course they won't find anything useful if they can't see them! But I can see every banner instead the popup ones and yet I don't click on any of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinsc Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 very well said, Julius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachleen Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Neowin doesnt do pop-ups, unders or flash ads that take over your screen and still people think blocking a standard banner is ok, well you suck and don't contribute at all while we put a lot of effort into keeping this site online.Some people are so dumb I could just give up, yeah really 585910100[/snapback] I agree a bit with Neobond, and Julius Caro. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 It's fine to ignore ads, but blocking them is over the line. You won't find anyone who says "Oh yeah, I click all the ads I see," but with some people they'll click an ad if it catches their eyes. I very rarely click ads myself. But I don't block them. It's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirk26 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 There are ads on Neowin? I've never seen one. When did that start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastique Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 does it matter if the ad is blocked it the people were never going to click on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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