Damn you TNT2 M64 Card!!!


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Alright guys im on my last straw with this damn graphics card... before i take a hammer and smash it to hell, maybe someone can help me out to try and fix it. Well here goes...

Ok i got this card cas im cheap and cant afford anything else (plus HP are ###### and didnt put agp slots in the computer i have thats only like a year and a half old [its a pentium 3, 866 mhz) so i bought a pci version of the nvidia tnt2 m64 graphics card. well i got it and was ****in my pants i was gonna be able to play games like unreal tourney and stuff:). To think of it now, i really had no idea the hell i was about to travel through. Well i installed it and YES!!! it worked. All my games like Unreal Tourney and Ghost Recon ran great. So life was good and I was playing games. Then that fateful day about 5 months ago occured. I was playing and my screen just shut off in the middle of a game and then the computer restarted. WTF! i said, but didnt think much of it. This started to occur alot more often and eventually happened everytime i played a game (screen would flicker alittle then shut off). So i did the thing you do. Dload new drivers, move the actual card to different slots, reinstall the card, all that good stuff. But nope nothing fixed it. So i was gettin ****ed off and took out the card. But boy does a 16mb card blow chuncks. So i put the 32 card back in an hell it started shutting off just by browsing windows. (Always shuts down after like 2 mins!) So I screwed around with this for about 5 months to no avail (lol i cant spell[is that right?]). So i cant figure out what to do. I seriously think ive considered every possible option (change monitor refresh rate, every thing!). Recently i tried calling nvidia but thats like trying to get in contact with Osama Bin Laden. I waited for 1 1/2 and didnt ever get a technician just this ****ty soing!!! (llaa laaa haaaaaaaa!!!!) god ill shoot myself if i hear that song one more time. Can anyone help me!!!! I am gonna destroy this ****ing card!!! (sorry for seeming alittle panzyish, im just so sick of messing with this card!)

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What type of cooling is on the TNT2 M64 GPU (GPU... LOL) itself? A friend of mine has a TNT2 M64 32 MB card and had similar problems... but that was because of the fact that he only had a heatsink on the GPU... and not an actual heatsink & fan combination?

Did you remove your old video card/disable your old onboard video?

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have you consider the fact that your card is messed up somehow? like maybe the ram on it is damaged or something. so when you are playing game (attempting) it reaches for that part of memory and craps out on ya. (though that don't really make sense since most vid card will check memory on boot up)

mmm, did you overclock your card before? if you had, maybe that's why its dying on you now.

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I had a TNT2 M64 32MB card and it ran fine, even on wolfenstein, i had detail set mostly low but i reckon if youve tried running it on say Detonator 4's id say go back to Det 3's cus apparently Det 4's concentrate mainly on FSAA performance which TNT's would probably rely on your processor for FSAA due to no hardware accelaeration.

Just a thought, ive got a GF3 Ti200 @ 220 core and 480 memory clock, now and runs great. Only paid like ?120 for it. I dont think id like torun Aquanox on it cus a GF3 Ti500 is like 500+ core clock and whatever memory speed it runs at not sure though.

What games do you run on it?

Well actually im lying, i had a tnt M64 32MB, then bougth a hercules kyro 2 64MB which wasnt actually that bad , but then got Hercules GF3 Ti200 which i OC'ed to 220 core/480 memory straight away because of a review that said they got to 245 core and a bit above 500+ memory but i wouldnt like to OC it that much cus itmight damage me hardware.

My mate is getting a GF4 Ti4600 for like ?240 i think cus his dad builds computers and so can get it for trade prce. i think its a bad move cus the GF5 is coming out soon which i think supports DX9 API's with the programmable GPU i think. I thinkits DX9 that happens with GF5. i cant remember cus i think they said they were holding off till the GF6 im not entirely convinced.

Sorry for confusing you but i cqant remember. The reason for this is bexaUSE im a very bit drunk and thats the trut not like some people who say yhey are to excuse themselves. Then only excuse for this post iom giving is the bad spelling if there is any and the babbling n about it. Sorry admins but in my incoxifiscated state i think ive done pretty well so please leave it.

Thanx

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Actually upo reading your last post probably check ths out. i bought 2 GF2 Ti200 cards.

The first was a Pine Group Excalibur GF3 Ti200, the second was a Hercules GF3 Ti 200. I couldnt wait for the Excalibur so i went to OCUK this is sprt of a free plu http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ this is because it is literally 4 miles from where live and bought the hecules after there because of sites saying that trhe hercules could OC better. I bought the Excalibur GF3 Ti 200 as well first because of the DVI out.

But i think maybe the extra places it takes to get to the DVI bitmight reduce FPS slightly. bt realistically at the mo an LCD monitor that uses a DVI out hasnt got at least the refresh rate of normal monitors that can refesh upto say 120Hz for a 1600x1200 monitor, This is a pur guess becuase my 17" montor that i get to 1024x768 @ 85Hz.

Sorry m,y post is bozz eyed i think i mean tthat a 800x600 LCD monitor if there is one can refresh at aboput 60-65Hz cant it. Which according to gamea becauyse of the higher resolutions that PC monitors can get to rat`her than TVs it requires like a HIGHER REFESH RATE

for example, probabluy easier for me: -

TV's: Max res. think is about: 680x480 @say max, 65

refresh rate

LCD's prob: 800x600 @65-75 refresh rate by now

Monitors prob 1920x1780 dont know but 21"monitors @95-110 hz refresh rates probably

U know LCD's arent viable for ga,es at the mo. if yoy wanted to buy an LCD monitor for games id wait till around the GF7 comes out. Thats probably when games monitors are gonna get that thin and a good high resolution with good refresh rates willhit the market.

Say GF5 hits markets around September 2002, GF6 Around April 2003 then GF7 around September 2003 according to nVidias 6 month product life cycle. Then The LCD montiors will be nmore respectable to gamers with have ing a better resolution capabilitie and also a higher refresh rate.

At then end oif the day all i can say is wait for the GF5, if that dont have a programmable GPu dont get it, if Matrox's effort vome out get it if its aforadab;e, and if 3D ;abs effor VPU (Visual Pocessing unit) maybe get it it.

But at the complete end of the day, its what GPU/board manufacturer you like. With the cometition coming out from nVidia, ATI, Matrox and 3Dlabs its your choice.

Yes nVidia has the best driver team in the industry, BUT has it become so cocky that it dismisses competiton so leaving you with an inferior board. ATI has a good board but its drivers are really substandard but getting better. has Matrox out done itself in Producing a good board; but on previous boards its drivers were really shabby and not upto expectations. Or has 3D labs really out done itself in the professional board sector with its VPU and wants to come into the main stream middle or high end graphics board sectors for high end gaming.

At th end of the day, with such high end boards coming out so soon would it worth the hert ache o sheeling out say ?350+ quid for a GF5 when the Matrox or 3D ;labs effort is much better for alower price???

i think not. I know im a bit wrecked but i speak my mind when i smashed. Personally i thin id go for a matrox board becaus they do have alotof experience in the industry tried abit od 3D gaming, t worked out so they webt for BIT OF EDITING AND SUCH WHICH THEY are good at p[robably decidied they would incorporate it into there boards for DVD encoding and made an improtant leap in the gaming industrys graphics decompressing abilty*back in a min im going the toil;et(

*rigt im back* i heard intel made an extremely realisticmodel of a vase which took up i think was around 1GB of scane in photos thenas analysed into a realistic model which took up about 10MB of space on your HD, but what games company has the time to take 1000 photos of one object scan em in them analyse them into small piece of relaistic fully virtual realisitc model.

Nobody thats right. its took GTA3 probably years in the making to get a game that totrally rocks. Granted its cars are probably modelled of real life cars but thenchabged the name of the car. Personaly i thin k the Stinger/Yakuza Stinger is modelled off the Shelby Cobra, another car is modelled off the Dodge Viper and i rs[ect tje for that because whats te point in going through tests of the car licensing rights to use the car and suich. All i know the Stinger AKA Shelby Cobra is THE best car if the game. i love GTA 3 its brill. Even wheb you comp,ete tyhe game it goes back to the game and you can mess about for ages with like how ever much money you had plus ?1 million before the last mission

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Originally posted by adam2001

...its took GTA3 probably years in the making to get a game that totrally rocks. Granted its cars are probably modelled of real life cars but thenchabged the name of the car...

What exactly does GTA3 (or anything in your post) have to do with his problem?

Anyway, it sounds like your card is over heating. (I had a similar experience with a GF2) Try adjusting cables inside your case to allow for better airflow.

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nm i figured it out. well **** i guess that sort of worked :) i moved the wires around so the card dosent over heat so much and hey it seemed to work. but heres my probelm. when i run a game, the screen begins to flicker and eventually turns off. now im just guessing that my card is just burning up. how do i make it so it stays cooler and dosent over heat so much?

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Man i tell ya i've kept virtually every odd-n-end from most of the systems i've tinkered with so i have a large assortment of bitz. The piont is this. A cheap and rather effective way to add cooling to your card is to take an old 486/early Pentuim CPU fan and mount it on your GPU. I also have a TNT2 (32 meg AGP) and after mounting an old Compaq CPU fan to the heatsink on my GPU i have found an overall performace boost.

Give'er a try! Good luck!

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Originally posted by ck2k01

Alright guys im on my last straw with this damn graphics card... before i take a hammer and smash it to hell, maybe someone can help me out to try and fix it. Well here goes...

Ok i got this card cas im cheap and cant afford anything else (plus HP are ###### and didnt put agp slots in the computer i have thats only like a year and a half old [its a pentium 3, 866 mhz) so i bought a pci version of the nvidia tnt2 m64 graphics card. well i got it and was ****in my pants i was gonna be able to play games like unreal tourney and stuff:). To think of it now, i really had no idea the hell i was about to travel through. Well i installed it and YES!!! it worked. All my games like Unreal Tourney and Ghost Recon ran great. So life was good and I was playing games. Then that fateful day about 5 months ago occured. I was playing and my screen just shut off in the middle of a game and then the computer restarted. WTF! i said, but didnt think much of it. This started to occur alot more often and eventually happened everytime i played a game (screen would flicker alittle then shut off). So i did the thing you do. Dload new drivers, move the actual card to different slots, reinstall the card, all that good stuff. But nope nothing fixed it. So i was gettin ****ed off and took out the card. But boy does a 16mb card blow chuncks. So i put the 32 card back in an hell it started shutting off just by browsing windows. (Always shuts down after like 2 mins!) So I screwed around with this for about 5 months to no avail (lol i cant spell[is that right?]). So i cant figure out what to do. I seriously think ive considered every possible option (change monitor refresh rate, every thing!). Recently i tried calling nvidia but thats like trying to get in contact with Osama Bin Laden. I waited for 1 1/2 and didnt ever get a technician just this ****ty soing!!! (llaa laaa haaaaaaaa!!!!) god ill shoot myself if i hear that song one more time. Can anyone help me!!!! I am gonna destroy this ****ing card!!! (sorry for seeming alittle panzyish, im just so sick of messing with this card!)

the M64 is the slowest of the TNT2 Series, of nvidia GPU's

TNT2 Memory Speed:150 MHz

Pixels Per Second:250 Million

Memory Bandwidth:2.4GB/s

TNT2 M64 Memory Speed:150 MHz

Pixels Per Second:250 Million

Memory Bandwidth:1.2GB/s

TNT2 Pro Memory Speed:166 MHz

Pixels Per Second:284 Million

Memory Bandwidth:2.65GB/s

TNT2 Ultra Memory Speed:183 MHz

Pixels Per Second:300 Million

Memory Bandwidth:2.9GB/s

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ya i know thats not wat im talking about, im asking how to remove a fan from my bros old comp (i see it but cant figure out how to detach it) and how to install it in this comp

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fan? like that thing they put on hps or hsf of the cpu?? and why would you remove a fan to get the agp card out. hrm, if its a hp or other namebrand, look for notches to push to click it off.

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no no, my graphics card in my HP is overheating. so im gonna take a fan from another computer and put it into the HP so hopefully the card will stop overheating. how do i remove the fan and put it into the HP?

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Originally posted by ck2k01

no no, my graphics card in my HP is overheating. so im gonna take a fan from another computer and put it into the HP so hopefully the card will stop overheating. how do i remove the fan and put it into the HP?

just buy a BLORB or a CRYSORB :)

www.thermaltake.com

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Well, since I have no idea from where you're taking your fans from and how does your tnt2 card look like, it would be nice if you could take some photos of your hardware... y'know, so we can make sure you'll be able to do everything w/out any problems.

It's not an easy thing, and if you're not able to figure out how to do it, I suggest you to ask a pro to do it for you (in real life, so he'll be the one doing everything, and not just giving directions ;))

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