French vote against the EU constitution


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May 29 (Bloomberg) -- France rejected the European Union's constitution in a national referendum, dealing a blow to President Jacques Chirac and European integration.

Fifty-six percent voted against the treaty and 44 percent in favor, Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin said, citing official results with 90 percent of ballots counted. The defeat, the first veto of an EU pact by a founding member, may kill the constitution, which requires the approval of all 25 nations.

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Source: Bloomberg

La France rejette nettement le trait? constitutionnel (Le Monde)

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I would never have thaught i would say this "Thank You France"

Where do you lib dems stand now eh?

Europe to come crashing down *shouts* YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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It won't "kill" the constitution, it will just sent it back for another round of negotiations.

The French citizens didn't like it because there were too many consessions for the UK. Ironically, there probably were not enough concessions to gain UK support anyway.

It seems to me that they'll have to carry on without England for the time being...

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It won't "kill" the constitution, it will just sent it back for another round of negotiations.

The French citizens didn't like it because there were too many consessions for the UK.  Ironically, there probably were not enough concessions to gain UK support anyway.

It seems to me that they'll have to carry on without England for the time being...

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nah it'll get destroyed...

the netherlands and the UK will give it the elbow too.

jolly good show.

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It won't "kill" the constitution, it will just sent it back for another round of negotiations.

The French citizens didn't like it because there were too many consessions for the UK.  Ironically, there probably were not enough concessions to gain UK support anyway.

It seems to me that they'll have to carry on without England for the time being...

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Actually, at this time it is offically dead. It required all Signatuaries to approve the refurendem. Without France, it could not take affect. With the Netherlands probrably rejecting it, the UK will not even offer it for a Vote.

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Well, I can't say I blame the French. European unity (to an extent) is good but the EU constitution is pretty unfair for many nations in the EU.

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I agree with the French on voting no on the constitution. I think Europe isn't ready yet. Also having gone back over the last few years to my home country, The Netherlands, I only think the EU has hurt NL instead of helping them.

The last time I was in Holland (April 04) it seems the average citizen was pretty bitter about its own government (ex: Harry Potter the prime minister) and about the EU in general. Obviously introducing a constitution at this time just wasn't "the right thing todo"

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I agree with the French on voting no on the constitution. I think Europe isn't ready yet. Also having gone back over the last few years to my home country, The Netherlands, I only think the EU has hurt NL instead of helping them.

The last time I was in Holland (April 04) it seems the average citizen was pretty bitter about its own government (ex: Harry Potter the prime minister) and about the EU in general. Obviously introducing a constitution at this time just wasn't "the right thing todo"

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isnt Holland the country where many government officials are anti islam. or is that denmark

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Yeah but where's that empire now?

Let's have a France-England quick comparisons:

Trains on time: Yes - No

Trains cheap and fast: Yes - No (cost me 52 quid for return Manchester - London!)

Roads smooth, wide and not that many jams: Yes - No

Food: YES - ABSOLUTELY NOT

Price of life: Cheap - outrageously expensive

Price of housing: going up but still rather cheap - simply stunningly sky-high + that stupid lease system is just crap

Medical service: excellent, paid back by social security so technically is free - good for specialities, not so amazing for general practice (if it's bacterial, have antibiotics, if it's viral, have paracetamol. Aspirin is a deadly poison to avoid at all costs).

Landscape: there's a reason all Brits flock to France

Now something you'll be sensible to as a Brit:

Booze: 0.9 euros for 1.5l of Kro - ?2.50 for a pint of Kro

Finally:

Chavs: no - yes

The only half good thing about England is that the language is spoken all over the world, but thats thanks to the US not you. Oh and the people are generally nicer. But still...

France 1 - UK 0

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well if we didn't keep so close to amerika we'd save hella lot a money you want someone to blame blame government our biggest misstake was overly sideing with the USA post WW2

chavs are a result of amrikan culture messing up our own

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France 1 - UK 0

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Politicians are all to blame for this kind of stuff anyway, theres nothing the rest of us can do here, I mean even our voting is useless because half the postal votes are so obviously rigged and with the current voting system Labour got in on next to no votes.

As for Britain being the outcast in Europe I'd agree, buts its got nothing to do with our Empire I think its alot to do with the UK public's stance on Europe, and surrendering to the Euro and the fact that alot of Europe believes the typical British stereo type of hating France, Germany etc. Its kind of ironic in some respects that we're so outcast considering our contribution to WW2 if you ask me. I do think we support America too much too, I still get the impression they think they won the war without us.

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I do think we support America too much too, I still get the impression they think they won the war without us.

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Well they did! Except for using the islands to store their army, being protected by the RAF, using intelligence from the British Intelligence Service, being fed by Brits, ...

Ah well. It's 3/4 of a century old now - there's nothing as elusive as the past.

Although I have to say Blair is a more charismatic leader than Kennedy who just looks like an oversized crybaby. I still thought Lib Dem had better policies...

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French rejecting "eu constitution" is a best thing that ever happened to europe in the last few years. The constitution was of the buerocrats, by the buerocrats and for the buerocrats atleast according to media here.

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I still get the impression they think they won the war without us.

How on earth did you get that impression? American media makes very plain how all our allies have abandoned us with the exception of a select few.

And yuri, its AmeriCa not AmeriKa.

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Is their an English source? Plus an English source of the entire constitutions would be nice.

And what's the deal with the French President appointing a new PM just because the French voters rejected the constituion... why did the PM do?

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Is their an English source? Plus an English source of the entire constitutions would be nice.

And what's the deal with the French President appointing a new PM just because the French voters rejected the constituion... why did the PM do?

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Losing the referrendum was incredibly embarrasing. There was no need to send it out to the general public, Jacques Chirac could have sent it to parliament for ratification. The old PM was tremendously unpopular so he made a very good sacraficial lamb.

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