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Ok, heres the situ. I have a freind who is convinced he can't date a girl who practices wicca, because he says his faith (Christianity) proclaims that he can't. I'm calling BS on it, but I'd like someone who knows their bible to help me disprove or verify this.

Cheers,

Tom

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Just start saying ezekial, 3rd prophet of Moses, begat..

He'll fall asleep, and then just shout AND THAT'S WHY YOU CAN DATE HER

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google broguht up this: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_chr.htm

Some conservative Christians act as if the Inquisition is still in force. A few Christian leaders have even called for a genocide -- the extermination of Wiccans. One Baptist pastor from Texas expressed the hope that the government would use napalm to burn them alive. A tele-minister, also from Texas, once called for Wiccans to be stoned to death because of their religious beliefs. Sadly, he received spontaneous and sustained applause from his congregation.

not sure if it would be ok to date one before u stone them to death :p

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Basically the Bible says to not be matched up with people who aren't believers. It doesn't mention Wicca in particular, and in this case it's probably not that important what she believes or not. The important part to him, is will she support and accept, and hopefully agree with what he believes.

Any of us can relate to the following example. If we could pick a great partner, it would be someone who understood that we love computers. They might not be able to use Resource Hacker, or create their own themes, but it would be cool if we could share with them some of the things we've done on our computers and have them appreciate it, and not just say "Oh wow" (when you know they think what you did was lame :) ). How much sense would it make to marry somone who hated computers, and thought they were useless and a complete waste of time?

In the same way, it makes no sense to be a Christian, and yet to have your closest relationship with someone who doesn't understand or believe in Jesus Christ. That's why in 2 Corinthians 6:14 it says not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Basically it's saying "Don't have a spouse who doesn't appreciate Jesus, or share your same belief in Jesus, because you won't be able to share the biggest part of your life".

In this case, that's likely what your friend means....hope that helps.

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Genesis 28:1

So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed [ Or greeted ] him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman.

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Exodus 34:15-17

Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

Deuteronomy 18:10

There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

2 Corinthians 6:14

[ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

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religion nothing but a moteavation tool to get large groups of people to work towards a comman goal that bares no fruit but only ever benefits the preacher or prophet pyramids are a prime exsample of this there is nothing to religion we should just ignore it and get on with our doomed exsistance

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google broguht up this: http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_chr.htm
Some conservative Christians act as if the Inquisition is still in force. A few Christian leaders have even called for a genocide -- the extermination of Wiccans. One Baptist pastor from Texas expressed the hope that the government would use napalm to burn them alive. A tele-minister, also from Texas, once called for Wiccans to be stoned to death because of their religious beliefs. Sadly, he received spontaneous and sustained applause from his congregation.

not sure if it would be ok to date one before u stone them to death :p

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don't worry, koresh died in a fire.

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religion  nothing but a moteavation tool to get large groups of people to work towards a comman goal that bares no fruit but only ever benefits the preacher or prophet pyramids are a prime exsample of this there is nothing to religion we should just ignore it and get on with our doomed exsistance

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well aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

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Well, thanks for the, though rather bleak outlook. I'll pass this on to his girl, she wanted to know. Thanks again.

Tom

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Ok, heres the situ. I have a freind who is convinced he can't date a girl who practices wicca, because he says his faith (Christianity) proclaims that he can't. I'm calling BS on it, but I'd like someone who knows their bible to help me disprove or verify this.

Cheers,

Tom

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Just date the girl yourself and cut him out of the equation. If he doesn't want to date then he doesn't want to date her. You can't reason him into dating someone.

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you asked a straight question, here's the straight answer. he's right. the verse in the bible to support it is:

2 Corinthians 6:13-15 (New International Version)

13As a fair exchange?I speak as to my children?open wide your hearts also.

14Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? 15What harmony is there between Christ and Belial[a]? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

while this is normally in the context of marriage, i certainly believe it applies to dating. "why start something that you're not going to finish?" while i think most ppl (and myself in the past included) believed this idea/rule/warning whatever to be narrow minded or exclusive...

give it some thought, whether or not you believe in God is a HUGE deal. it totally changes the way you see the world either way. until you've been on both sides of the fence, i guess that might be hard to imagine. but this is certainly not a minor detail like, do we like the same kind of music or movies? its like, we share the beliefs like: God created the universe, everyone falls short of God's perfect standards, but Jesus Christ died for our sins so we can come to know God, and of course Satan is evil... i'm not very up to date with wiccan but i'm pretty sure a wiccan would view God, Jesus, and Satan quite differently.

and basically thats a problem, and will lead to serious strain on a relationship that is suppose to grow intimate. i've never known any mixed-belief relationships to have the same intimacy level that same-belief relationships have or if they are, then they've given up on their previous beliefs. on the contrary, ppl with the same belief, can often encourage, support, relate, and empathize with their spouse.

i mean, i think that makes sense. obviously diversity in some things might add spice to your relationship, but like belief regarding (whether you do or do not) God, Good, Evil, Creation, Sin, Satan etc. impact who we are and who we can really connect with.

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well aren't you just a ray of sunshine.

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sunshine light from the star that gave us life gave us the abilaty to live will be our destroyer bring me armageddon bring me apocalypse then i will bow down to the true creator who will stand a-top the acropolis in the kingdom of heaven in the kingdom of hell our exsistence is worth less as we fall down this suffocating well

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Just date the girl yourself and cut him out of the equation.  If he doesn't want to date then he doesn't want to date her.  You can't reason him into dating someone.

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:rofl:

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Genesis 28:1

So Isaac called for Jacob and blessed [ Or greeted ] him and commanded him: "Do not marry a Canaanite woman.

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Exodus 34:15-17

Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 And when you choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons and those daughters prostitute themselves to their gods, they will lead your sons to do the same.

Deuteronomy 18:10

There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

2 Corinthians 6:14

[ Do Not Be Yoked With Unbelievers ] Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

I dont mean to sound harsh, or offend anyone, but if I didnt know any better I'd say that was blatent discrimination. In this day and age how anyone can believe this utter tosh is beyond me. I have a Christian friend, and I had a dicussion with him about falling in love with someone that is not Christian. He said he wouldnt be with them because they dont believe the same things as him. To me that seems stupid, does it matter if you dont believe in the same almighty power (if you even do), or if your going to the same place. While you alive why eliminate potential perfect matches from your life, after all life is too short, live it and dont judge others, respect them.

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is it because the guy has a profound relationship with god and wants to be able to share it with the girl he loves, and he's worried he won't be able to, or is it because he is scared of being punished for it?

if it's the first, forget her and move on, if it's the second one, all sins are forgivable if you deserve to be forgiven, surely if there's one thing to sin for, it's love.

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Hey, guys we're skirting around the main issue here. Sure religion is important and all that.

More importantly, however, is she pretty?

And if she is a Wiccan... can't she just cast a spell on him?

Willow could. Mind you, she'd be casting a spell on another girl but I digress...

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I wonder if her spells can increase other things  :whistle:

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That's why they have Viagra/Enzyte.

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Hey, guys we're skirting around the main issue here.  Sure religion is important and all that.

More importantly, however, is she pretty?

And if she is a Wiccan... can't she just cast a spell on him?

Willow could.  Mind you, she'd be casting a spell on another girl but I digress...

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I wonder if her spells can increase other things :whistle:

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Yeah, She's really pretty, though the guy is afraid he'll burn in eternal hell or something like that I guess. I was saying, surely if his god is all loving, all forgiving, he could forgive him the sin of loving this girl. As it stands, they are going out, however she's had to stop all that she belives in for his belif, and It's just blatantly unfair on her. It's making her really upset, and he doens't have a clue. He's done nothing for her, I've always been the one to look after her all the time, when he isn't there. Sigh. This is beginning to leave the original question, So I'll stop here for the time being, Thanks again everyone though.

Tom

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Yeah, She's really pretty, though the guy is afraid he'll burn in eternal hell or something like that I guess. I was saying, surely if his god is all loving, all forgiving, he could forgive him the sin of loving this girl. As it stands, they are going out, however she's had to stop all that she belives in for his belif, and It's just blatantly unfair on her. It's making her really upset, and he doens't have a clue. He's done nothing for her, I've always been the one to look after her all the time, when he isn't there. Sigh. This is beginning to leave the original question, So I'll stop here for the time being, Thanks again everyone though.

Tom

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Sorry, but you are wrong. It's her choice to date him as well, and if she will sacrifice what she 'believes' in, then it's her 'fault'. As was stated in this thread, the bible clearly states not to be 'unequally yolked with unbelievers'...It's not descrimination, it's following your beliefs. Simple as that.

If she can't take it, she should end the relationship. He;s the one standing firm with his beliefs, she's the one being wishy washy.

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Sorry, but you are wrong.  It's her choice to date him as well, and if she will sacrifice what she 'believes' in, then it's her 'fault'.  As was stated in this thread, the bible clearly states not to be 'unequally yolked with unbelievers'...It's not descrimination, it's following your beliefs.  Simple as that.

If she can't take it, she should end the relationship.  He;s the one standing firm with his beliefs, she's the one being wishy washy.

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I should have said, it's more then just wicca. I know it's her choice to say yes or know, but she's made some major lifestyle changes for him, he doens't care at what cost to her, as long as he doesn't have a chance of damnation, etc. I mean, I just can't see his logic, surely give a little to get a little? It's somewhat painful to watch that he can't see she's unhappy...

Tom

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Doesn't matter its still her choice. She evidently thinks he's worth it. Sounds like you're in love with her though. Maybe thats why you take it personal.

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It seems you just want the girl man, and you are trying to justify a relationship change from him to you. It also seems like you may end up messing around behind his back. Either way tell him first, or just get her to break up with him, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but in general people just say they are wiccan to be different, and only have a passing interest or knowledge in the practice of the religion.

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