neoufo51 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Priest unrepentent after crucifying of nun June 18 2005 at 02:46PM By Laura Chiriac Tanacu, Romania - A Romanian Orthodox priest who ordered the crucifixion of a young nun because she was "possessed by the devil" and now faces murder charges was unrepentant on Saturday as he celebrated a funeral mass for his alleged victim. "God has performed a miracle for her, finally Irina is delivered from evil," Father Daniel, 29, the superior of the Holy Trinity monastery in north-eastern Romania, said before celebrating a short mass "for the soul of the deceased", in the presence of 13 nuns who showed no visible emotion. He insisted that from the religious point of view, the crucifixion of Maricica Irina Cornici, 23, was "entirely justified", but admitted that he faced excommunication as well as prosecution, and was seeking a "good lawyer". Cornici had entered the monastery just three months before Cornici was found dead on Wednesday, gagged and chained to a cross, after fellow nuns called an ambulance, according to police. Mihaela Straub, spokesperson for the police in the province of Vaslui, said Daniel and four other nuns had claimed Cornici was possessed and should be exorcised. Before being crucified she had been kept shut up for several days, her hands and feet tied and without food or drink, he said. Cornici had entered the monastery just three months before, after visiting a friend who was a nun there, police said. As her coffin entered the church of the monastery Saturday no church bells were sounded while nuns cast distrustful glances at the strangers, including two AFP reporters, present at the ceremony. 'She can't be laid in the church because she was possesed' Claps of thunder from an approaching storm were sometimes the only sounds to break the silence. "This storm is proof that the will of God has been done," Daniel said. "You see it?" said the priest, gesturing at the body, lying in an annexe and still showing the marks of the gag. One of the nuns, Sister Martha, added, "She can't be laid in the church because she was possesed." Daniel has lived for the past four years in the isolated monastery located in the hills of one of the poorest regions of Romania, without running water or electricity. "Over there, in your world, the people must know that the devil exists. Personally I can find his work in the gestures and speech of possessed people, because man is often weak and lets himself be easily manipulated by the forces of evil," said the bearded young priest. "I don't understand why journalists are making such a fuss about this. Exorcism is a common practise in the heart of the Romanian Orthodox church and my methods are not at all unknown to other priests," he said. A 34-year-old parishioner who had come to defend Daniel and gave her name as Dora, said Sister Irina " had to be punished, she had an argument with the Father during a Sunday mass and insulted him in front of the congregation." Sociologist Alred Bulai said that corporal punishment was still commonly used in certain Romanian monasteries. "It's happening particularly in the isolated monasteries, where the superiors have difficulty understanding the current realities and adapting themselves to modern life," Bulai said. Since the fall of the communist regime in December 1989, the Orthodox Church, which represents 85 percent of Romania's 22 million inhabitants, is rated in many opinion polls as the most trusted institution in the country. Vitalie Danciu, the superior of a nearby monastery at Golia, called the crucifixion "inexcusable",k but a spokesperson for the Orthodox patriarchate in Bucharest refused to condemn it. "I don't know what this young woman did," Bogdan Teleanu said. - Sapa-AFP http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&cl...19098341918B265 Either: 1) He banged her good and needed to keep her mouth shut. 2) He's another religious delusional misogynist. What does everybody else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 What the hell? :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmsant Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 eh? wtf? crucifiction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LispyGlitter2 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 whoa :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 just read that not even 10 min ago. the guy is probably dillusional. he was probably possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted June 19, 2005 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2005 Who knows? Maybe she was possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacheon Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 it's funny how more death occurs because of God than any other cause on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted June 19, 2005 MVC Share Posted June 19, 2005 it's funny how more death occurs because of God than any other cause on earth. 586086786[/snapback] How is that funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Who knows? Maybe she was possessed. 586086780[/snapback] if she were possessed she shouldnt of been killed. it's funny how more death occurs because of God than any other cause on earth. 586086786[/snapback] :rolleyes: another ignorant post. world war 1 and 2, US civil war, darfur conflict, vietnam, malaysian war, etc. i could go on for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berz Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Us Romanians are a wacky bunch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoufo51 Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 if she were possessed she shouldnt of been killed.:rolleyes: another ignorant post. world war 1 and 2, US civil war, darfur conflict, vietnam, malaysian war, etc. i could go on for awhile. 586086805[/snapback] Ummmm...you DO realize there was history before 1865 right? In the scale of human events, the guy is right. More people have been killed in the name of religion than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 yeah man, just think of the crusades.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK47 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 it's funny how more death occurs because of God than any other cause on earth. 586086786[/snapback] Every death occurs under God's Will. I don't see what you find funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawx Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 LOL (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Every death occurs under God's Will.I don't see what you find funny. 586086859[/snapback] riiiiiight....... :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaxx Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Every death occurs under God's Will.I don't see what you find funny. 586086859[/snapback] Then, it is God who wants poor litle 12yrs to be raped and killed by maniacs? :pinch: And nuns to be crucified because someone thought they were possesed? :x Poeople really do get nuts over god related issues!! :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Ummmm...you DO realize there was history before 1865 right? In the scale of human events, the guy is right. More people have been killed in the name of religion than anything. 586086837[/snapback] sorry those darned public schools didnt teach me anything before 1800s. do i really need to go into detail? yeah man, just think of the crusades.... 586086852[/snapback] lol crusades were a joke compared to genocides committed throughout history. read up for yourself (but you probably wont). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoufo51 Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 Every death occurs under God's Will.I don't see what you find funny. 586086859[/snapback] Haha. K. Whatever you say, dude. Also, if you dont recognize a figure of speech commonly spoken...then you might need to reconsider your choice of literature or get out more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philoushka Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 How is that funny? 586086797[/snapback] Funny because the religious freaks see *everything* as "god's doing". Dog is good, dog is bad. ** Your God is dead, and no one cares! ** :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakz Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 another reason why religions are dangerous... its nieve to not see them in the same light as extremist cults Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 more deaths are caused because of religion you say? :rolleyes: lists of wars BEFORE the crusades 1600 BC - Hyksos conquest of Egypt1200 BC - Trojan War 800 BC - Messenians Wars 722 BC - 481 BC Wars of the Chinese Spring and Autumn Period 701 BC - Sennacherib's campaigns in the Near East 499 BC - 479 BC Persian Wars 480 BC - 307 BC Sicilian Wars 480 BC First Sicilian War 410 BC - 340 BC Second Sicilian War 315 BC - 307 BC Third Sicilian War 475 BC - 221 BC Wars of Warring States Period in China 431 BC - 404 BC Peloponnesian War 395 BC - 387 BC Corinthian War 343 BC - 290 BC Samnite Wars between Rome and Samnium 343 BC - 341 BC First Samnite War 327 BC - 304 BC Second Samnite War 298 BC - 290 BC Third Samnite War 334 BC - 323 BC Wars of Alexander the Great 323 BC - 322 BC Lamian War 323 BC - 280 BC Wars of the Diadochi 274 BC-200 BC Syrian Wars 274 BC 271 BC First Syrian War 260 BC 255 BC Second Syrian War 245 BC 241 BC Third Syrian War 219 BC 217 BC Fourth Syrian War 202 BC 200 BC Fifth Syrian War 267 BC - 261 BC Chremonidean War 264 BC - 146 BC Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage 264 BC - 241 BC First Punic War 218 BC - 202 BC Second Punic War 149 BC - 146 BC Third Punic War 215 BC - 168 BC Macedonian Wars 215 BC - 205 BC First Macedonian War 200 BC - 196 BC Second Macedonian War 171 BC - 168 BC Third Macedonian War 209 BC - 88 BC Parthian - Seleucid Wars 135 BC - 71 BC Roman Servile Wars 135 BC - 132 BC First Servile War 104 BC - 100 BC Second Servile War 73 BC - 71 BC Third Servile War or Spartacist Rebellion 122 BC - 105 BC Jugurthine War 91 BC - 88 BC Social War 88 BC - 87 BC Sulla's first civil war 89 BC - 63 BC Mithridatic wars 89 BC - 85 BC First Mithridatic War 83 BC - 82 BC Second Mithridatic War 74 BC - 63 BC Third Mithridatic War 82 BC - 81 BC Sulla's second civil war 58 BC - 50 BC Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars 55 BC - 54 BC Julius Caesar's Roman invasion of Britain 53 BC - 51 BC Parthian War of Marcus Licynius Crassus 49 BC - 45 BC Julius Caesar civil war 44 BC - 30 BC Roman Civil War 44 BC Post-Caesarian civil war 44 BC - 42 BC The Liberators' civil war 44 BC - 36 BC Sicilian revolt 41 BC - 40 BC Fulvia's civil war 32 BC - 30 BC Antony's civil war 40 BC - 37 BC Parthian invasion on Syria and Asia Minor 36 BC - 33 BC Marc Anthony' s invasion on Parthian Empire 43 Aulus Plautius' Roman invasion of Britain 51 - 63 Wars between Nero and the Parthians 66 - 70 The first Jewish-Roman War (aka the Great Jewish Revolt) 68 Year of the four emperors, Roman civil war 115 - 117 Traian' s invasion on Parthian Empire 115 - 117 Second Jewish-Roman War 132 - 135 Third Jewish-Roman War (aka Bar Kokhba's revolt) 161 - 166 Parthian war of Lucius Verus 193 - 199 Parthian war of Septimius Severus 215 - 217 Parthian war of Caracalla 220 - 265 War of Three Kingdoms in China 291 - 306 War of the Eight Princes in China 533 - 534 Vandal Wars 633 - 651 Muslim Conquest of Sassanid Empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parhamreza Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 WWII. Atheist Vs. Atheist killed more people than all the ancient religious wars before them put together. It's not religion that kills, its extremism that does it, whether Religious, nationalistic, atheistic or culturla. Besides, disease has kiled more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioscheine Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 WWII. Atheist Vs. Atheist killed more people than all the ancient religious wars before them put togetherIt's not religion that kills, its extremism that does it. 586086983[/snapback] Umm, #1 Hitler was not an Atheist, he was a christian... and #2) the only country they faced that was atheist was Russia (because communism denouced all religion) more deaths are caused because of religion you say? rolleyes.giflists of wars BEFORE the crusades QUOTE 1600 BC - Hyksos conquest of Egypt 1200 BC - Trojan War 800 BC - Messenians Wars 722 BC - 481 BC Wars of the Chinese Spring and Autumn Period 701 BC - Sennacherib's campaigns in the Near East 499 BC - 479 BC Persian Wars 480 BC - 307 BC Sicilian Wars 480 BC First Sicilian War 410 BC - 340 BC Second Sicilian War 315 BC - 307 BC Third Sicilian War 475 BC - 221 BC Wars of Warring States Period in China 431 BC - 404 BC Peloponnesian War 395 BC - 387 BC Corinthian War 343 BC - 290 BC Samnite Wars between Rome and Samnium 343 BC - 341 BC First Samnite War 327 BC - 304 BC Second Samnite War 298 BC - 290 BC Third Samnite War 334 BC - 323 BC Wars of Alexander the Great 323 BC - 322 BC Lamian War 323 BC - 280 BC Wars of the Diadochi 274 BC-200 BC Syrian Wars 274 BC 271 BC First Syrian War 260 BC 255 BC Second Syrian War 245 BC 241 BC Third Syrian War 219 BC 217 BC Fourth Syrian War 202 BC 200 BC Fifth Syrian War 267 BC - 261 BC Chremonidean War 264 BC - 146 BC Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage 264 BC - 241 BC First Punic War 218 BC - 202 BC Second Punic War 149 BC - 146 BC Third Punic War 215 BC - 168 BC Macedonian Wars 215 BC - 205 BC First Macedonian War 200 BC - 196 BC Second Macedonian War 171 BC - 168 BC Third Macedonian War 209 BC - 88 BC Parthian - Seleucid Wars 135 BC - 71 BC Roman Servile Wars 135 BC - 132 BC First Servile War 104 BC - 100 BC Second Servile War 73 BC - 71 BC Third Servile War or Spartacist Rebellion 122 BC - 105 BC Jugurthine War 91 BC - 88 BC Social War 88 BC - 87 BC Sulla's first civil war 89 BC - 63 BC Mithridatic wars 89 BC - 85 BC First Mithridatic War 83 BC - 82 BC Second Mithridatic War 74 BC - 63 BC Third Mithridatic War 82 BC - 81 BC Sulla's second civil war 58 BC - 50 BC Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars 55 BC - 54 BC Julius Caesar's Roman invasion of Britain 53 BC - 51 BC Parthian War of Marcus Licynius Crassus 49 BC - 45 BC Julius Caesar civil war 44 BC - 30 BC Roman Civil War 44 BC Post-Caesarian civil war 44 BC - 42 BC The Liberators' civil war 44 BC - 36 BC Sicilian revolt 41 BC - 40 BC Fulvia's civil war 32 BC - 30 BC Antony's civil war 40 BC - 37 BC Parthian invasion on Syria and Asia Minor 36 BC - 33 BC Marc Anthony' s invasion on Parthian Empire 43 Aulus Plautius' Roman invasion of Britain 51 - 63 Wars between Nero and the Parthians 66 - 70 The first Jewish-Roman War (aka the Great Jewish Revolt) 68 Year of the four emperors, Roman civil war 115 - 117 Traian' s invasion on Parthian Empire 115 - 117 Second Jewish-Roman War 132 - 135 Third Jewish-Roman War (aka Bar Kokhba's revolt) 161 - 166 Parthian war of Lucius Verus 193 - 199 Parthian war of Septimius Severus 215 - 217 Parthian war of Caracalla 220 - 265 War of Three Kingdoms in China 291 - 306 War of the Eight Princes in China 533 - 534 Vandal Wars 633 - 651 Muslim Conquest of Sassanid Empire he said religon, not just christianity. Your poor choice to choose only christianity as the only religon makes me sick. Christianity is one of the last organized religons, so dont say that a war BEFOR the crusades isnt a holy war, or involve religon, just because christianity wasnt involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgios Tsitouridis Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 It is not only the crusades. Check out the Byzantine history. Imagine the the Greek emperor Konstantinos (that moved the capital of the empire from Rome to Konstantinoupoli - Instabul). He was named The Great by the Greek Orthodox Chuch becuase he gave a push to the religion, no matter he had murbered half of his family in order to be the empiror. The crusades were inspired by the Byzantine empirer. Either you become an orxthodox and we "help" you, or you die because our God does not like yours. Finally if you think this depper, it is just a matter of power, money and control over nations, that unfrotunatelly some people like the one in Romania see only the coverup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnakinSolo2002 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Umm, just because times change, it doesn't mean the people do. People don't change because you want them to, or because you think they should. I'm not condoning "killing" or "murder," but what the **** do you know about them, or let alone their religion, or even history? What is wrong with you people? This stuff has been hapnen for THOUSANDS of years, still is, obviously. My goodness, in 'Bible' times if you sinned you got stoned(killed), if you Disobeyed your parents, you went to 'court,' if you did it again you got stoned. 'Sin' is quite frankly stated to be payable on death. Now I'm not gonna go around throwin stones at anyone, and I don't condone it, I'm not better than any of you. So I'm guessing all you guys know how to perform exorcism? right? yeah.... I bet you do? I sure as hell don't, I'm not gonna pretend I do. Do you actually know wether or not you can live afterward? It's like just because you saw 'the Exorcist' or 'Coinstantine' that you automatically know how to do it, or that death isn't the result... I saw this, and have alwaysed wanted to comment it... it's funny how more death occurs because of God than any other cause on earth. 586086786[/snapback] Could you please think about what you said for a minute? Of course more death accurs because of God more than anything else... He created life! (for one thing) Life is the only real cause of death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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