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Hitler was not a christian by any measure. You should read up on his actual beliefs. His fascination with christianity was only skin deep. He believed any ideology but german nationalism that occupied the minds of the German people was a waste of time, espicially if said ideology, christianity, preaches equality between all man and regards the jews as God's chosen people.

Btw, I'm not a christian.

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Hitler was not a christian by any measure. You should read up on his actual beliefs. His fascination with christianity was only skin deep. He believed any ideology but german nationalism that occupied the minds of the German people was a waste of time, espicially if said ideology, christianity, preaches equality between all man and regards the jews as God's chosen people.

Btw, I'm not a christian.

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sorry, i guess its my bad for beliving what im tought in school (and thats not scarasm, thats me hating public schooling)

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Umm, #1 Hitler was not an Atheist, he was a christian... and #2) the only country they faced that was atheist was Russia (because communism denouced all religion)

he said religon, not just christianity. Your poor choice to choose only christianity as the only religon makes me sick. Christianity is one of the last organized religons, so dont say that a war BEFOR the crusades isnt a holy war, or involve religon, just because christianity wasnt involved

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hitler a christian? rofl. because someone claims be raised a christian and publishes propoganda about his "lords work" makes him a christian?

my poor choice to only choose Christianity? the thread started off talking about Christianity and crusades were mentioned later on as well. i dont see why i have to make sure to please you and include other religions as well.

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Hitler was not a christian by any measure. You should read up on his actual beliefs. His fascination with christianity was only skin deep. He believed any ideology but german nationalism that occupied the minds of the German people was a waste of time, espicially if said ideology, christianity, preaches equality between all man and regards the jews as God's chosen people.

Btw, I'm not a christian.

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No one said that murders are commited because of God. Crimes were commited in the name of God. Perhpas Hitler, Clinton, Bush.... are the only murderes that have done war in the name of something else other than the name of God. God till now was reason peaple used to do war now there are other reason available (the war of Troy - supposed to be done for a woman). In the end all the wars were done for money, power and control, even Hitlers. The ideaology of the Area Race (which by the way is the Hilters rename of the ancient Greeks) was formed in order to bring the Germans together, and it was really susccesfull.

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Sheesh good thing I only said religion. Oh well. Religion in general is a waste of time and conceived by weaker minded segments of humanity that are unable to think progressively and for themselves and inevitably include kooks that crucify people. Sure...religion will never go away since its a natural component of human thought, its just that some people are strong enough to live without thinking that somebody up there is watching over them.

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Then, it is God who wants poor litle 12yrs to be raped and killed by maniacs? :pinch:    And nuns to be crucified because someone thought they were possesed?  :x

Poeople really do get nuts over god related issues!!  :wacko:

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1) God doesn't want anything bad to happen, it even says in the Bible that it is impossible for God to even look at sin/someone committing a sin.

2) Technically Lucifer commited the first sin, pride, but he being not 'human' it can't really be counted as the first sin. Adamn and Eve committed the first sin of man. They made sin, it was their choice.

3) People commit sin, God doesn't tell them to, God doesn't want them to, it's their choice when they do it, People do crazy **** cause they want to.

4) I think it was more crazy to crucify Jesus because they thought he was "possessed," they thought he was nuts, they thought he was being Blasfamous. Now if he wasn't Jesus don't you think God be a little ****ed at all us "Christians?" I think we'd all be dead. I don't think he would be helping us at all. I really don't think he would have let that be in the Bible.

5) Yeah people seem to go nuts over God related issues... Look at yerself, look at anyone else posting about these things, Atheists go more crazy over God related issues than 'God people' and 'Christians' combined. Why is that? You are sooooo afraid we are right, you denouce everything, so that you can go along life doin what you want and being delusional about God. Get your head out of your ass.

6) For the record... Christianity is NOT a 'religion.'

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So much for the religion of peace. :rolleyes:

(Isnt that what the Muslim-bashers say whenever one of thier nuts go nuts?)

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Some Muslim contries have behaved exactly the same like Christians. It is a global thing. Muslims were killing in the name of Alah, Christians in the name of God... ancient Greeks in the name of the 12 Gods.... and so on.

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i say burn those damn bibles..... :p

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Won't matter. Most people are easy to mold. In fact, most people want to be molded...

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So much for the religion of peace. :rolleyes:

(Isnt that what the Muslim-bashers say whenever one of thier nuts go nuts?)

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do you think any organization (politcal, religious, etc) is void of fanatics, extremists or corrupt?

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Hey! So did HITLER!  :huh:  Still have that opinion bud?

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yes i do, its not because i crazy man said the same thing that it makes it a bad idea

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do you think any organization (politcal, religious, etc) is void of fanatics, extremists or corrupt?

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I think there are good Muslims and Christians, and crazy ones that give thier religion a bad name. It just seems that there is a knee jerk reaction to blame the Muslim religion for the actions of the wackos. I was trying to expose how silly it was, by using a western religion, Christianity as an example.

Regardless, in retrospect, it was really disrespectful to use speak of that poor little girl's death so flippantly, and for that I apologize.

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Sheesh good thing I only said religion. Oh well. Religion in general is a waste of time and conceived by weaker minded segments of humanity that are unable to think progressively and for themselves and inevitably include kooks that crucify people. Sure...religion will never go away since its a natural component of human thought, its just that some people are strong enough to live without thinking that somebody up there is watching over them.

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Religion is a waste of time huh?

What isn't a waste of time? Since everytihg in life only matters to you(person's self), and your opinion, and you're going to die, and nothing's going to hgappen afterward, and you won't exist anymore, what you did won't matter, so why is anything you do while you're alive matter? Worshiping and getting to know God/Jesus is the only thing I've done that wasn't a waste of time. You do know that most Christians have a really hard time finding 'time' to read their Bibles? You know why? Same reason people'd rather have fun than do work. Anything worth doing isn't going to be easy to do. In no way is it easy to be a Christian. Do you know, in the Bible, Jesus calls us to be like him, to do exactly, live exactly as he did. He is perfect, comepletelly without sin, and since we are all sinners and cannot escape it completelly, it is impossible to be anything like Jesus. We sure can try though, and thats what we are supposed to do, we try, some times we do, sometimes we don't, well most the time, but we can try. He says if we ask for his help and we do our best to be like him (with his help) we get to go to heaven for eternity, why? Not because we tried, not because of anything we did, but ONLY because Jesus dies for all our sins, if we ask him to cleans us he will. Thats all you have to do. Though you MUST follow God and do everything you can to be like Jesus's example. You can't ask for his healing and then go around like you were before, yes you'll still screw up, you aren't going to be perfect, were you before? Jesus doesn't make you perfect, he forgives all your sins past, present, and future.

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Religion is a waste of time huh?

What isn't a waste of time? Since everytihg in life only matters to you(person's self), and your opinion, and you're going to die, and nothing's going to hgappen afterward, and you won't exist anymore, what you did won't matter, so why is anything you do while you're alive matter? Worshiping and getting to know God/Jesus is the only thing I've done that wasn't a waste of time. You do know that most Christians have a really hard time finding 'time' to read their Bibles? You know why? Same reason people'd rather have fun than do work. Anything worth doing isn't going to be easy to do. In no way is it easy to be a Christian. Do you know, in the Bible, Jesus calls us to be like him, to do exactly, live exactly as he did. He is perfect, comepletelly without sin, and since we are all sinners and cannot escape it completelly, it is impossible to be anything like Jesus. We sure can try though, and thats what we are supposed to do, we try, some times we do, sometimes we don't, well most the time, but we can try. He says if we ask for his help and we do our best to be like him (with his help) we get to go to heaven for eternity, why? Not because we tried, not because of anything we did, but ONLY because Jesus dies for all our sins, if we ask him to cleans us he will. Thats all you have to do. Though you MUST follow God and do everything you can to be like Jesus's example. You can't ask for his healing and then go around like you were before, yes you'll still screw up, you aren't going to be perfect, were you before? Jesus doesn't make you perfect, he forgives all your sins past, present, and future.

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There is no god and this life is the closest thing to heaven you will ever see.

You can't say everything is a waste of time and expect me to start following a higher power. I'll stick to my agnostic beliefs and like you someday my flesh will be eaten by worms and broken down by bacteria. There is no heaven, and I have no soul to slip into the afterlife. I will become the earth, and so will you. I accept the inevitable, and I will live my life just fine.

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In no way is it easy to be a Christian.

Stop being a christian. Simple.

The thing i love about christians though, is that the more you trash talk them, they'll still love you.

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Stop being a christian. Simple.

The thing i love about christians though, is that the more you trash talk them, they'll still love you.

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I never really trash talk christians. I just never allow their beliefs to interfere with my life.

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yes i do, its not because i crazy man said the same thing that it makes it a bad idea

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Right... you think Hitler thought he was crazy? So what makes you know you aren't? For that matter all you people who think Christians/religious people are nuts, why do you seem to know that we are? huh? Tell me what you knowe that we don't? It seems we know quite a bit more than you. How many psycho's agree with the people who call them that? None, they think you're nuts.

Sorta unrelated: Tell me why people who haven't ever had a mental illness, or know what it's like to have it, and that it really is, and get to diagnose people with them. People are afraid of what they don't understand. Atheists don't understand religion,we understand you though, yep, that's right, we do, because we were atheists before, we sinned, we still do (human nature), we know how you feel, but we are actually owning up to it. So is admitting you did something wrong crazy? Seems to be your opinion.

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Sorta unrelated: Tell me why people who haven't ever had a mental illness, or know what it's like to have it, and that it really is, and get to diagnose people with them. People are afraid of what they don't understand. Atheists don't understand religion,we understand you though, yep, that's right, we do, because we were atheists before, we sinned, we still do (human nature), we know how you feel, but we are actually owning up to it. So is admitting you did something wrong crazy? Seems to be your opinion.

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I'm the reverse. I was raised Catholic. I thought better of it after much reflection. I walked out of my confirmation when I was 15. My parents have never forgiven me, my religious friends still look at me funny and I dont really care since they are my friends and I dont judge them. I think for myself and never try to change people no matter what. I dont need the church in my life, and I dont need a "lord" to live it.

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There is no god and this life is the closest thing to heaven you will ever see.

Has information been made available to you that hasn't been made available to me, please tell me more, you seem to know so much on the subject. I'm interested in what you have to say as I wouldn't want to mistake you for a closed minded idiot.

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Right... you think Hitler thought he was crazy? So what makes you know you aren't? For that matter all you people who think Christians/religious people are nuts, why do you seem to know that we are? huh? Tell me what you knowe that we don't? It seems we know quite a bit more than you. How many psycho's agree with the people who call them that? None, they think you're nuts.

Sorta unrelated: Tell me why people who haven't ever had a mental illness, or know what it's like to have it, and that it really is, and get to diagnose people with them. People are afraid of what they don't understand. Atheists don't understand religion,we understand you though, yep, that's right, we do, because we were atheists before, we sinned, we still do (human nature), we know how you feel, but we are actually owning up to it. So is admitting you did something wrong crazy? Seems to be your opinion.

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I'm not sure i should be sickened by that or risk injuring myself from uncontrolable laughter :laugh: :x

but seriously, if you REALLY want to understand atheists, ponder this quote

"I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other gods you will understand why I dismiss yours."

..........Stephen F. Roberts

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Has information been made available to you that hasn't been made available to me, please tell me more, you seem to know so much on the subject.  I'm interested in what you have to say as I wouldn't want to mistake you for a closed minded idiot.

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I'd elaborate but you are just so intent on breaking Neowin's rules of namecalling and such. :rolleyes:

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