Speed Limits May Not Be Saving Lives


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speed limits are needed IMO. no need to change them. what if someone is flying down a school zone at 120, and a kid chases after his/her ball, and WHAM, right into your bumper...

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A lot of people nearly fall asleep when they're following a ridiculously low speed limit. On highways around here the limit is 90km/h, which is retarded. No wonder people fall asleep. Its more dangerous to follow the speed limit than to go faster. Going faster makes people pay more attention to their driving.

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what the? fall asleep because of driving slow, i dont think so. If they are falling asleep its because they are too tired to drive, i dont think going faster will make them more alert just more dangerous to be out there.

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They should increase the speed limit (or possibly remove it) on motorways/dual-carriage way/etc, and reduce it in built up areas (and enforce it).

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Alot of people ignore speed limits and just drive according to what they see in front of them and all around them. Personally I feel this is a good way to drive. If the road is clear ahead of me, no cars and wide open, why should I drive 30 instead of 50? Its that a-hole doing 75 cutting people up and playing loud music thats the danger.

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Limits are meant to be broken. :)

And so are rare chinese artifacts and rules, but those were stated somewhere important.

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speed limits are needed IMO.  no need to change them.  what if someone is flying down a school zone at 120, and a kid chases after his/her ball, and WHAM, right into your bumper...

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i don't think people were really referring to streets near schools, mostly just freeways.

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Its 19 year olds, holding the wheel with 1 hand, laid back on the "freeway"/"highway"/"motorway" thinking he has phenomanal car control, because, why not? He has passed his test so hes 'leet'. Why cant he drive twice as fast as everyone else...

Its them ****s who kill people, and then they say they were doin the speed limit.

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another think i wonder, why don't they emphasize this type of stuff more on driving tests? 

honestly, just getting slow people out of the left lane, that should be a really easy task to complete. 

then people need to learn that their side view mirrors are for blind spots, becuase you don't need 3(!) mirrors to look behind you.  9 out of 10 people's cars that i get into all have their side view mirrors adjusted so they can see behind them.  drives me nuts.

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I agree 100% with you, just thinking about all the times I have had to swerve and or honk my horn at some crazy lady who needs to take the driving test again, makes me hopping man, I mean it is just crazy what some people do when driving. The speed limit needs to be there, especially in and around major cities and towns, but on the freeway, a lot of the time nobody at least where I am even really pays attention to the the speed limit. I mean just the other day I was driving to see some friends who are about 200 miles away, I kept it 30-35 above the speed limit and I was still getting passed by guys going 5-10 miles faster. I mean we are talking in the low 100s :p but that what everyone was driving at...... I really do think people should take the driving part of the test every time they need to get their license.... I have so many stories of bad driver it is not ever funny :no:

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Its 19 year olds, holding the wheel with 1 hand, laid back on the "freeway"/"highway"/"motorway" thinking he has phenomanal car control, because, why not? He has passed his test so hes 'leet'. Why cant he drive twice as fast as everyone else...

Its them ****s who kill people, and then they say they were doin the speed limit.

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Im 19, and I drive one handed practically all the time, with my other hand on the door armrest ready to grab the wheel when necessary (for tighter corners etc). Ive never had a serious accident in my life and I've held my license nearly 2 years. Blaming a typical teenage stereotype doesnt help. OAPs, Women, Men, Teenagers, it makes no difference, its those who arent aware of what the road markings/signs mean, whos around them and whats going on around them that are dangerous.

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Im 19, and I drive one handed practically all the time, with my other hand on the door armrest ready to grab the wheel when necessary (for tighter corners etc). Ive never had a serious accident in my life and I've held my license nearly 2 years. Blaming a typical teenage stereotype doesnt help. OAPs, Women, Men, Teenagers, it makes no difference, its those who arent aware of what the road markings/signs mean, whos around them and whats going on around them that are dangerous.

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Theres a difference between being a good driver and being lucky.

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Theres a difference between being a good driver and being lucky.

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Exactly, and I'm a pretty decent driver. I'm guessing you stereo type because you have beef with some other driver, or you think extra time spent on the road makes you a better driver or something :no:

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I go 80/90 constantly, but i dont play music loud or talk on the phone, i pay attention.

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How can people go constantly that speed? Won't that wear your car down faster? I go 65-70 in a 55mph in the DC area. The average speed is 80mph. Crazy drivers.

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Theres a difference between being a good driver and being lucky.

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Exactly.

There's no difference between teenagers and stupidity.

Fact is, teenagers have a lack of experience.

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Poorly designed roads?  No...

Part of being a good driver is being able to analyze the road conditions, whether it's from the weather, or if the roads are poorly taken care of... it doesn't matter, driving requires alot more than stepping on the gas and turning the wheel... If you can't analyze and react to your surroundings when you are driving, then you shouldn't be driving at all.

Speed Limits have no effect here in America.  People are ****ing retarded and can't drive.  Bad drivers are the cause of accidents.  They dont' know the rules of the road, they can't understand that the left lane is a passing lane, not for crusing at 50mph when the speed limit is 55...

The bottom line is that all the rules of the road have no effect on anything unless people are going to follow the rules.  It's not just the speed limit.  It's the lane laws, who has the right of way, etc.  Bad drivers are the cause of accidents.  End of story.

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....Story continued (oooh)

Road conditions make a huge difference. Poorloy kept roads in winter are responsible for far more accidents han someone speeding. Cars these days are far superior (technically) to the old clunkers of yore. They have traction computers adjusting the speed of individual wheels. ABS braking, better lgihts, better visibility, safer construction, better more efficient engines, THEY ARE BETTER.

Obviously if your driving on some crap road you have to adjust your driving for it but to say road that are poorly designed or kept dont affect accidents is ignorant.

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Exactly.

There's no difference between teenagers and stupidity.

Fact is, teenagers have a lack of experience.

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B*tch please. :p

But seriously if any of you live in southern ontario you know that alot of the older immigrated drivers are far worse tha nthe teenages. Dont get me wrong alot of kids do stupid things, but I have seen poor driving trends among certain racial groups.

I don't intend to be racist but if you drive you will notice that a majority of bad driver have certain common traits.

If driving course were mandatory and you had to take skid school, winter driving etc there would be alot of scared driving instructors but I believe better driving would come from it.

The most dangerous driver is an indecicive one.

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Theres a difference between being a good driver and being lucky.

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I am 17 years old. I drive with one hand, the other one is used to shift. My seat is leaned back so I can drive confortably. Why the hell would I ever stick my face to the steering wheel. If ever something happens, who is going to eat the air bag in the face? You, because you were sitting "safe". How YOU are confortable in your car and how I am has nothing to do with how you drive...

Also, I think speed limits should be removed. Someone satated that how could you get out of way if someones comming in your back at 180km/h +? Well, how are people in europe capable of doing it? They have the Autobahn, in Germany and there is no problem and ITS a two lane highway.

Another thing, who says everyone will go fast. Alot of cars on the road cant go more then 150 - 160 km/h soo... thats not that bad. Another thing also, gaz... you guys think a car driving at her max speed and full throttle will drink as much as driving 100km/h? I wouldnt be able to pay the gaz if I was running that fast anywayz. My car tops 180 km/h and if I kept it full throttle all the time, I doublt i'll be able to keep her running because I would be ruined.

Soo... remonving speed limits, it would allow us to concentrate even more on the road because we would have a thing less to check, the speed.

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Around here you can go 15-25% over the posted limits with relatively safety.  If the highway is signed at 100km/h then you likely won't get in trouble unless they clock you in excess of 125km/h. In fact, many people with cruise control lock it in at 125.

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Same here. I got warned at 123 though... new tires... Anyways, I don't believe in cruise control. I think you need your whole attention to the road...

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Exactly.

There's no difference between teenagers and stupidity.

Fact is, teenagers have a lack of experience.

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That depends who you compare us to. But you are right, though not all teenagers are dangerous drivers.

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I dunno... dont quote me on this

You can drive with a really simple easy 'course' in america and get a license and be driving at 15/16? and insurance/tax is a joke over there, its dirt cheap... You can speed and get away with it

Your kids!

Im 19... Im still a kid... You havent matured.. (Do we ever fully mature?) I mean...I dunno... I just find kids who are 15/16 driving around is insane.

Does that have anything to do with this?

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I am 17 years old. I drive with one hand, the other one is used to shift. My seat is leaned back so I can drive confortably. Why the hell would I ever stick my face to the steering wheel. If ever something happens, who is going to eat the air bag in the face? You, because you were sitting "safe". How YOU are confortable in your car and how I am has nothing to do with how you drive...

Also, I think speed limits should be removed. Someone satated that how could you get out of way if someones comming in your back at 180km/h +? Well, how are people in europe capable of doing it? They have the Autobahn, in Germany and there is no problem and ITS a two lane highway.

Another thing, who says everyone will go fast. Alot of cars on the road cant go more then 150 - 160 km/h soo... thats not that bad. Another thing also, gaz... you guys think a car driving at her max speed and full throttle will drink as much as driving 100km/h? I wouldnt be able to pay the gaz if I was running that fast anywayz. My car tops 180 km/h and if I kept it full throttle all the time, I doublt i'll be able to keep her running because I would be ruined.

Soo... remonving speed limits, it would allow us to concentrate even more on the road because we would have a thing less to check, the speed.

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Removing speed limits would only make the dumb, bad driver americans cause more accidents. As much as you may not want to admit it, German (or all European countries) driver's are probably better drivers than we are. Their driver's courses are more expensive, thorough, and do a better job of teaching the students.

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I dunno... dont quote me on this

You can drive with a really simple easy 'course' in america and get a license and be driving at 15/16? and insurance/tax is a joke over there, its dirt cheap... You can speed and get away with it

Your kids!

Im 19... Im still a kid... You havent matured.. (Do we ever fully mature?) I mean...I dunno... I just find kids who are 15/16 driving around is insane.

Does that have anything to do with this?

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Insurance is actually quite expensive. I'm lucky that I get it cheap for good grades.

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Speed Limits have no effect here in America.? People are ****ing retarded and can't drive.? Bad drivers are the cause of accidents.? They dont' know the rules of the road, they can't understand that the left lane is a passing lane, not for crusing at 50mph when the speed limit is 55...

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That is one the most/b> aggravating things when I'm driving. The number of times I see cars in the right lanes passing the left lane is ridiculous.

As far as this issue goes. I agree that a good driver has to consider conditions. Also, a GOOD driver can drive both quickly and safe. Look at NASCAR guys. I mean they drive 180-190 mphs with inches separating them at times. The problem is most people don't drive enough on highways to know the way to drive on them properly. It's completely different from street driving but you'd be surprised how many people try act the same way. My whole family speeds, including me, (I think it's genet:laugh:gh:) and none of us have ever gotten into accidents because of it. My parents have been driving for over thirty years. My sister for twelve. And I for four. And only dad has gotten the tickets for it for some reason. Not recently but he used to get one every couple of years.

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Exactly.

There's no difference between teenagers and stupidity.

Fact is, teenagers have a lack of experience.

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Unfortuantly most fully people seem to think the 15+ years experience they have counts for something. These same people who dont indicate at roundabouts, dont give way and go 50 on 70 roads. Illegal drivers, boy and girl racers (believe me they exist), OAPs, people who THINK they know how to drive, these people are dangerous. The only reason teenage insurance is so high is because of the minority.

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I go 80/90 constantly, but i dont play music loud or talk on the phone, i pay attention.

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:yes:

it's a sad but scary thought, and i'm not exaggerating or joking, but i literally have to save my own life almost once a day, because of other drivers that aren't paying attention.  i drive 20 minutes twice a day, on busy los angeles freeways, and if i wasn't an aware driver, i would most likely be dead by now.

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you and i understand VERY well in these situations. i'm always on the look out..

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I was a way crazier driver when I first got my license than I am now. I have mellowed in my old age. Males under 25s do take more risks when driving. Their insurance rates are higher for a reason.

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Speeding in residential areas, cities, and school/construction zones should be treated MORE seriously. If you're going a few mph over a warning is fine. But if you're going 50 in a 30 you deserve harsh punishment. That kind of speeding is dangerous.

Highways are a completely different matter. If you obey all other traffic laws (use turn signals when changing lanes, drive on right and pass on left) and drive courteously... and you have a capable well-maintained vehicle, you should be able to drive faster when conditions permit.

If you are speeding AND drifting across lanes, getting too closed to other cars, or breaking other non-speed related laws... there should be a "speeding modifier" that treats those violations more significantly.

Changing lanes illegally at 65mph is dangerous. Changing lanes illegally at 90mph is more dangerous.

However it is perfectly possible to drive 90, or 110, or 130 safely on some highways where the speed limit is currently 60-70.

Just look to Germany. Parts of the autobahns have no speed limit. Parts have high speed limits. Where there are limits, they're strictly enforced. And ALL traffic violations are strictly enforced... whereas in the US police focus almost exclusively on speed.

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