Opera 8.02 Build 7668 BitTorrent Technical Preview


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+unabatedshagie

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Englishkid

I guess it's cool

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Toxicfume

Once again, for all the boring people who jump out and scream bloat...BitTorrent in Opera is Optional. That's right, you CAN disable it if you don't want to use it! What does that mean? That means if you don't use Bittorrent, you do NOT have to have it enabled.

Hopefully that sinks into some of you.

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Pink Floyd
Not exactly useless. They do wonders for linux distros so if you are an aficionado or just curious then you can trust them.

Still I see your point since I dont see another use of bittorrent beyond warez and maybe the couple of obscure software houses who manages their downloads via bittorrent.

Edit: I believe its planned in Firefox but just as a separate plugin.

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yup, as plugin

I don't want irc, mail, torrent, popsicle, sex within my browser

err if I ever want it, then I can install the extention ;)

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vcv
i see this as a desperate attempt by the opera dev to attract new users to compete with FF but it has failed big time, at least half the current opera users hate this bt feature, as they hate the M2, anything that is not related to a browser.

opera is dying sooner than i expected.

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Opera has been "dying" for 10 years. Dying so bad that their userbase keeps on increasing.

yup, as plugin

I don't want irc, mail, torrent, popsicle, sex within my browser

err if I ever want it, then I can install the extention 

Actually irc and mail ARE plugins. They aren't loaded/used unless you use them. Adding support for torrents does not bloat Opera at all. It's simply adding 1 default entry to the MIME types list and then the code for handling bittorrent (which isnt even seen until you download a torrent).

Some of you really shouldnt speak about some of this stuff if you have no idea about how programming and applications work.

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Liquid

This wont be updated nearly as much as other clients so I'll stick to BitComet and firefox. Bittorrent is ever expanding and a giant program like this isn't going to focus on its BT aspect. Its there and thats most likely how its going to remain for a long time.

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Pink Floyd
Opera has been "dying" for 10 years.  Dying so bad that their userbase keeps on increasing.

Actually irc and mail ARE plugins.  They aren't loaded/used unless you use them.  Adding support for torrents does not bloat Opera at all.  It's simply adding 1 default entry to the MIME types list and then the code for handling bittorrent (which isnt even seen until you download a torrent).

Some of you really shouldnt speak about some of this stuff if you have no idea about how programming and applications work.

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In firefox, you have nothing at _all_ unless you download and install them

stop being defensive.. I'm not even a firefox fan as I use opera everyday

I'm just stating the differences

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McoreD
You know what'd be sorta cool? Having Bittorrent COMPLETELY integrated into the browser. For example, let's say that 1000 people were browsing CNN.com at the same time that you put in the URL and hit "enter." Rather than downloading all the data from CNN's servers, you could download a list from them of what the most recent updated files are and then download from the caches of all the other people browsing the page. It'd be faster, cheaper for CNN, and pretty damn cool.

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Very cool idea. Never thought about it. So the whole Internet is in BitTorrent. Cool. :D

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qkslvr221

Don't know what all the fuss is about, I haven't noticed a single bit of slowdown since I upgraded, the new torrent extension works flawlessly (and very quickly at that) not to mention thats one less program I have cluttering up my computer. Way to go opera!

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helmers

I think Opera is the best browser, and this in no way changes it. Some downloads are faster (and more reliably) gotten by Bittorrent, and having a way to download BT files is more and more important. It will probably be like the mail & irc client Opers has - loaded upon use. So it won't be any problem performance-wise, except from any sick voices you might get in your head about wasting HD space.

You could say the same about Windows Media Player, IE & the Windows XP help function then. But they are no bother. Actually the help function is a bit worse since it has its own service.

...the point is, this is a nice thing to add. Hopefully it will increase the usage of the .torrent format and make it easier for people to share large files. And they don't have to be porn. :p

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In firefox, you have nothing at _all_ unless you download and install them

stop being defensive.. I'm not even a firefox fan as I use opera everyday

I'm just stating the differences

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The point is that the only thing you get is like less than 500k extra on your HD. There is no additional memory overhead (except the caller functions) whatsoever. You would save more memory by removing an icon from your desktop. This is not a problem, unless you've got your entire OS & browser on a floppy disk. :blink:

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vcv
In firefox, you have nothing at _all_ unless you download and install them

stop being defensive.. I'm not even a firefox fan as I use opera everyday

I'm just stating the differences

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That's not the point. The point is that Opera is not as bloated as you think.

Firefox comes with the overhead of XUL which is very similar to the HTML rendering engine.

The point is, that just because a product has lots of features, does not make it more bloated than a product with less features. Feature-wise, maybe. Memory-wise, size-wise, no.

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worbd
Let's bloat Opera even more!  :sleep:

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Opera bloated? It's still smaller and faster than comparable browsers (as in, browsers with proper Unicode, JS, DOM etc. support).

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worbd
Not only is it stupid to integrate it into a browser, but bit torrents are pretty much useless as far as legal means go.  Torrents still do not have enough support from legal sources to deem this a necessary feature of a browser.

BitTorrent makes a lot of sense in a browser. That is, unless you think FTP support should be taken out as well, in which case it doesn't make sense to discuss this with you at all.

There are lots of legal torrents out there, and in addition to Opera using BitTorrent to distribute the browser, BT easily available in the browser will make BT usage even more widespread than today.

Having to download a separate program for something basic like BitTorrent is stupid.

i see this as a desperate attempt by the opera dev to attract new users to compete with FF but it has failed big time, at least half the current opera users hate this bt feature, as they hate the M2, anything that is not related to a browser.

opera is dying sooner than i expected.

I know I shouldn't be feeding the troll, but Opera doesn't have "a dev". It's an entire company, and it's making more and more money.

If anything is dying, it's millions of brain cells in each person that reads your uninformed drivel.

stop being defensive..

Is one defensive if one corrects a trolling fanboy who claims that Opera is dying based on nonsensical arguments and claims?

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Pink Floyd
Is one defensive if one corrects a trolling fanboy who claims that Opera is dying based on nonsensical arguments and claims?

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obviously, you didnt read my entire post

In case you are too lazy to read entire post of ppl, let me inform you that you need to tell me how can I be a fanboy by mainly using opera?

ahh kids these days

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vcv
obviously, you didnt read my entire post

In case you are too lazy to read entire post of ppl, let me inform you that you need to tell me how can I be a fanboy by mainly using opera?

ahh kids these days

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Maybe you need to learn to read. He didn't call YOU a fanboy, he was calling mu30286 a fanboy and simply stating that correcting a fanboys proofless claim is not being defensive.
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