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Fox's John Gibson: By the way, just wanted to tell you people, we missed -- the International Olympic Committee missed a golden opportunity today. If they had picked France, if they had picked France instead of London to hold the Olympics, it would have been the one time we could look forward to where we didn't worry about terrorism. They'd blow up Paris, and who cares?

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hilarious

Reminds me of a book that just came out...

100 People Who Are Screwing Up America

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can't wait to get a copy of that ;)

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hilarious

can't wait to get a copy of that ;)

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You're a scary fellow, did you know that? Calling the idea of bombing France hilarious makes my stomach churn. How can anybody find the murder of anybody in the world funny?

I loved it when Michael Savage said this lil quote to a caller on TV...

"Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it"

He was then fired from MSNBC. Very nice. :laugh: :rofl:

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You're a scary fellow, did you know that? Calling the idea of bombing France hilarious makes my stomach churn. How can anybody find the murder of anybody in the world funny?

I loved it when Michael Savage said this lil quote to a caller on TV...

He was then fired from MSNBC. Very nice.  :laugh:  :rofl:

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Talk about hypocrisy. I thought you just posted how you thought Howard Stern was 'good for this country'. Ever hear some of the similar controversial statements he's made? Like after the Columbine shootings when he suggested that the killers should have raped the girls before killing them?
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Talk about hypocrisy. I thought you just posted how you thought Howard Stern was 'good for this country'. Ever hear some of the similar controversial statements he's made? Like after the Columbine shootings when he suggested that the killers should have raped the girls before killing them?

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Wasnt listening to him then back in 1999, but ok, thats a bad statement.

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Why is Matthew Lesko on that list? That guy rocks my box. :(

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:laugh: , well here's what he had to say about him...

MATTHEW LESKO.

Name doesn't ring a bell, you say. Maybe this will help: You're watching cable television, probably late at night, a commercial comes on, and there's a "grown-up" man wearing big eyeglasses, a black suit emblazoned with lime green question marks, and a lime green bow-tie emblazoned with lime green question marks, and while he's prancing around in front of the Capitol building in Washington, he's shouting in a high-pitched voice about all the "free money" the government has? just for you!

Want $100,000 to start a business in your own house? Lesko tells you how to get it. How about $75,000 to remodel that house? You say you always wanted to open a bookstore? The government's got $140,000 for you, and Matthew Lesko will help you get your grubby little hands on it. And, of course, there's all that "free money to pay your bills."

Right, that Matthew Lesko! The sort of embarrassing doofus you pray your daughter will never bring home and introduce as her fianc?. So, no, as evil goes, he's not exactly in the same league as Osama bin Laden.

Yet this character, who has devoted what passes for his adult life to peddling his books and CDs on how to get "free college money" and "free stuff for moms" and "free money to change your life" does stand for something disheartening that's happened to this country in recent years. Once, it was understood by almost everyone that there is no free lunch and that you got yours, as the old commercial had it, "the old-fashioned way"?you earned it! But now, this joker caters to a mindset that believes there's not only free lunch, but free dinner, and free midnight snacks, and a takeout bag if you're still hungry later on. Matthew Lesko is the Pied Piper for way too many Americans who are interested only in themselves.

Because, of course, the "free money" Lesko is talking about isn't really free at all. It's "tax money," which, in his way of thinking, is "everybody's money," otherwise known as "nobody's money."

A lot of us would argue that it's bad enough that slimy politicians take our money in the first place so they can hand it out as "free money" to somebody who wants to open a pizza parlor in Akron. But do we really need Matthew Lesko making himself the go-between, the conduit, between our money and the pizzeria?

And then, in December 2004, the New York State Consumer Protection Board issued a report suggesting that Mr. Lesko may have been ?oh, let's be generous ?exaggerating in his commercials.

For example: Lesko once claimed that a researcher was given $500,000 by the government "to travel the world." Turns out, the researcher was a physicist from Georgetown who won a grant from the National Science Foundation.

For another example: Lesko has said his books tell you how to get free car repairs. Actually he was talking about an automobile recall by the manufacturer.

And then there was the pitch about how you could get $400 a week if you were out of work. True enough. It's called "unemployment insurance."

"Lesko is now promoting a new book? by claiming that the federal government has more than $350 billion in hidden money that ordinary people can use to pay their credit-card bills and get out of debt," said Teresa Santiago, the chairwoman of the Consumer Protection Board. "That claim is simply not true."

On his Web site, Lesko shot back: "I provide my customers with legitimate sources of government money for business, education, housing and, yes, to pay bills."

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Funny, the only real response to the quotes was a Book about liberals, who are bad for the country.

Gee, thats a good response, I am glad the book says they are bad. I like to think for myself, and not just see the label "liberal" or "Conservative" and go, those are bad people. Of course, i also have my head firmly removed from my ass, so it makes thinking on my own quite easy, and comfortable.

In regards to the quotes, taken in context, or out of, they are simply the same thing adonai and rumble have done in the past (in regards to using quotes from "liberals" and such), and its compile a list of idiotic things some people said, and point out they said something idiotic. How cool.

This isnt arguing, its not even discussion. Its simple minded tossing off of one anothers own opinions, while we all sit around and spank ourselves over how right we are. God what a f'ing joke.

The inabillity to see how moronic those quotes makes those individuals look is...baffling. It realy is. Not all of them can be taken to be JUST what they seem, but even then, they still make the speaker look like a moron, which is what the site is attempting to do, but only succeeds because the speakers make it so damn easy. Do I need to back that statement up? WHY does it make them look idiotic? READ them, and you tell me.

Of course....

The site just plays up to the inbred bias that is making it so dificult to come to ANY consesus in our country, and our Government, and makes me want to puke. Its the same garbage on all 3 sides. Yes, I see it as 3 sides. Actuall Republicans, Neo Cons, and Democrats. The "Republican" party has attached itself to the ass of Neo Cons so it can gain a foothold. The cost? Its no longer the Republican Party, as the Neo Cons are about as republican as todays Democrats are. Democrats are, at this point, simply retarded. Its realy sickening, and its would be funny to see people pretend to argue over it, except that it shows a very real sampling of the political "atmosphere" of the US. Ah well, its a fooking joke, and so are the arguments in this thread. It makes me want to pee.

Your all the same, you just cling to different ideals and expect others to adapt. The abillity to agree and pehaps cooperate are so foriegn now, as to make it seem offensive, so that all you do is argue and **** and moan about how the "other side" is sooooo very bad. And your all SOOOOOO very different.....

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:laugh: , well here's what he had to say about him...

MATTHEW LESKO.

Name doesn't ring a bell, you say. Maybe this will help: You're watching cable television, probably late at night, a commercial comes on, and there's a "grown-up" man wearing big eyeglasses, a black suit emblazoned with lime green question marks, and a lime green bow-tie emblazoned with lime green question marks, and while he's prancing around in front of the Capitol building in Washington, he's shouting in a high-pitched voice about all the "free money" the government has? just for you!

Want $100,000 to start a business in your own house? Lesko tells you how to get it. How about $75,000 to remodel that house? You say you always wanted to open a bookstore? The government's got $140,000 for you, and Matthew Lesko will help you get your grubby little hands on it. And, of course, there's all that "free money to pay your bills."

Right, that Matthew Lesko! The sort of embarrassing doofus you pray your daughter will never bring home and introduce as her fianc?. So, no, as evil goes, he's not exactly in the same league as Osama bin Laden.

Yet this character, who has devoted what passes for his adult life to peddling his books and CDs on how to get "free college money" and "free stuff for moms" and "free money to change your life" does stand for something disheartening that's happened to this country in recent years. Once, it was understood by almost everyone that there is no free lunch and that you got yours, as the old commercial had it, "the old-fashioned way"?you earned it! But now, this joker caters to a mindset that believes there's not only free lunch, but free dinner, and free midnight snacks, and a takeout bag if you're still hungry later on. Matthew Lesko is the Pied Piper for way too many Americans who are interested only in themselves.

Because, of course, the "free money" Lesko is talking about isn't really free at all. It's "tax money," which, in his way of thinking, is "everybody's money," otherwise known as "nobody's money."

A lot of us would argue that it's bad enough that slimy politicians take our money in the first place so they can hand it out as "free money" to somebody who wants to open a pizza parlor in Akron. But do we really need Matthew Lesko making himself the go-between, the conduit, between our money and the pizzeria?

And then, in December 2004, the New York State Consumer Protection Board issued a report suggesting that Mr. Lesko may have been ?oh, let's be generous ?exaggerating in his commercials.

For example: Lesko once claimed that a researcher was given $500,000 by the government "to travel the world." Turns out, the researcher was a physicist from Georgetown who won a grant from the National Science Foundation.

For another example: Lesko has said his books tell you how to get free car repairs. Actually he was talking about an automobile recall by the manufacturer.

And then there was the pitch about how you could get $400 a week if you were out of work. True enough. It's called "unemployment insurance."

"Lesko is now promoting a new book? by claiming that the federal government has more than $350 billion in hidden money that ordinary people can use to pay their credit-card bills and get out of debt," said Teresa Santiago, the chairwoman of the Consumer Protection Board. "That claim is simply not true."

On his Web site, Lesko shot back: "I provide my customers with legitimate sources of government money for business, education, housing and, yes, to pay bills."

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It'old old saying goes:

"If it's too good to be......

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"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." - Bush

Dashing words mr president, dashing words

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Eh, he's nothing but a bigot.

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I loved it when Michael Savage said this lil quote to a caller on TV...

He was then fired from MSNBC. Very nice.?:laugh::?:rofl:l:

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I know Savage is still on the air, but MSNBC is still around?

Eh, he's nothing but a bigot.

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Coming from a self-proclaimed admirer of death? More hypocrisy, amazing.

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I know Savage is still on the air, but MSNBC is still around?

Coming from a self-proclaimed admirer of death?  More hypocrisy, amazing.

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Whoa, when did I say I admire death? Sheesh. I thought it would be a cool name, rolls off the tongue pretty well. Its also not hypocrisy even IF I actually admired death, because everything has to die someday and is the natural order of things. Murder, however, you know...like what you condone in the case of France, and some of those fellows in the page I posted talking about executing homosexuals...thats something else entirely. :x

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Gee, thats a good response, I am glad the book says they are bad. I like to think for myself, and not just see the label "liberal" or "Conservative" and go, those are bad people. Of course, i also have my head firmly removed from my ass, so it makes thinking on my own quite easy, and comfortable.

Ah well, its a fooking joke, and so are the arguments in this thread.? It makes me want to pee.?

Your all the same, you just cling to different ideals and expect others to adapt.?? The abillity to agree and pehaps cooperate are so foriegn now, as to make it seem offensive, so that all you do is argue and **** and moan about how the "other side" is sooooo very bad.? And your all SOOOOOO very different.....

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And thank you for your enlightening comments as well....

Now, go and pee.

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Paul Harvey: Slavery and Genocide OK!

"We didn't come this far [as a nation] because we're made of sugar candy. Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and across this continent by giving smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans. That was biological warfare. And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever.

"And we grew prosperous. And yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves. So it goes with most great nation-states, which--feeling guilty about their savage pasts--eventually civilize themselves out of business and wind up invaded and ultimately dominated by the lean, hungry up-and-coming who are not made of sugar candy."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/2/1781/50663

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You guys are all a bunch of hypocrites. You all act high and mighty and try to group white supremacists with conservative leaders.

I have news for you. Some of the biggest bigots/racists in America's history have been Democrats. Just look at the Democrats agenda. They are always pushing for racially based laws/endowments etc... The racism and segregation must come to an end.

I speak to you as someone who has mixed race blood relatives. There is only one race, the human race.

Did bad things happen in the past? Yes, but you cannot fix the problems cause by the past by reenforcing racial divisions.

Funding for schools in the inner cities are the answer, not racist laws.

How many of you "liberals" actually practice what you preach in your personal life? I'm talking about helping your fellow man by yourself and through supporting NGOs.

People who advocate bigger government programs but do nothing themselves to help others are hypocrites.

I think you will find that many people who vote for conservatives for office are generous to the poor in their own personal life. They are not heartless but rather believe that the state is not capable of helping the poor in an efficient manner because of bureaucracy and corruption.

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Reminds me of a book that just came out...

100 People Who Are Screwing Up America

# Aaron McGruder

Eh, I found Mr. Goldberg's earlier work, How to Manage and Execute Telephone Selling to be a much more insightful read.

But his dissing of my favorite cartoonist means that I'll be tossing all of his works from my library.

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I fail to see anything wrong with quite a few of those quotes.

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Usually I'd ask why, but your member title says it all. :pinch:

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This thread is pretty entertaining.

Hey necronion, why do you have a kid thats borrowing MJ's makeup in your avatar? Thats spooky.

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Its a vampire from a movie and MJ doesnt wear makeup.

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The most recent one is probably from Brit Hume:

"My first thought when I heard - just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to buy.'"

- Fox News's Brit Hume, 7/7/05

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Most of those quotes are pretty bad, but this one I actually saw in context. They were all discussing the economy and stocks, not the personal tragedies of the attacks. There was nothing at all wrong, when discussing economoics during an economic themed show, to make this statement. The entire panel was discussing the economic ramifications of the attacks - how is this then innapprporiate?

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Most of those quotes are pretty bad, but this one I actually saw in context.  They were all discussing the economy and stocks, not the personal tragedies of the attacks.  There was nothing at all wrong, when discussing economoics during an economic themed show, to make this statement.  The entire panel was discussing the economic ramifications of the attacks - how is this then innapprporiate?

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it depends how you look at it. certainly arbitraging is rational and acceptable. if you look at it this way, it's not like he appreciates the attacks--he's just saying that the futures market dropped. and it's not like no one else considered buying futures.

but if one thinks he was, in a way, looking to profit from the attack per se, then it's unacceptable.

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it depends how you look at it.  certainly arbitraging is rational and acceptable.  if you look at it this way, it's not like he appreciates the attacks--he's just saying that the futures market dropped.  and it's not like no one else considered buying futures.

but if one thinks he was, in a way, looking to profit from the attack per se, then it's unacceptable.

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I agree and the critics want to pick out the sentence and try to imply that. But I saw the entire converstion about 5 minutes before and after, and I can say assuredly that it was not a "Oh, awesome! Disasters like this are killer for my portfolio". It was much more along the lines of, "In the wake of these tragedies how do you see the markets responding?"

It is just a case of one side trying to find fault in anything the other does.

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