Opera feature poll 7/16/05


Vote to which you'd like implimented the most  

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  1. 1. Vote to which you'd like implimented the most

    • Tab improvement
      29
    • FTP improvement
      29
    • Double launch
      4
    • Keyword search enhancement
      16


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A pleasure, hope you will understand my explanations

some reading:

http://nontroppo.org/wiki/CookieSettings?show_comments=1

someone complaining about the cookies handling

http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?...ghlight=cookies

note that I am not talking here because I hate opera. I really love browsing with it and I want it to be better!

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finalcut correct me if I have missunderstood you on this:

1. for some sites to work like banking account and yahoo/hotmail to only name them, you have to allow third party cookies which let also valueclick cookies and stuff like that to be set. good uh? with firefox, I never had such cookies, neither in ie

Are you saying that you can not set to allow third party cookies for specific sites?

If so doesn't the steps below help?

ctrl+f12 > Advanced > Cookies > Manage Cookies > see below:

For existing servers > highlight the one that needs to be changed > Edit , untick Use Defaults

For adding new servers > New > fill in server name > tick/untick as appropriate

And then Advanced > Cookies; There set "Third Party cookies" to "Refuse all cookies."

I have not had any reason to test this myself. But logically, the main setting to refuse, should be overridden on the servers where you have specifically set 3rd party cookies to be allowed.

Lastly I think I should say that I could have been more polite towards you from start, but after having dealt with a number of trolls I unfortunately placed you in that category. Sorry about that. :blush:

Major Edit: Ignore the above for third party cookie handling and read the section "What is the best way to set Opera's cookie settings?" in the opera wiki you linked to.

I have to say that the cookie manager need some serious remodeling if the info in the wiki is correct (which I don't doubt)

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ThePast: I'm sorry too as I get frustrated quickly these days because my wife and I trying to have a baby and it doesnt work eh :(

back to topic:

some ppl saying we should set set as specified in server manager for primary cookies and always accept third party cookies

these are the best settings but unfortunatly, sites like yahoo, ebay, hotmail and such wont work because they often use servers located in another domain name to make site to work :(

as ebay for exemple, this is insane how many cookies you have to allow just to browse site

well maybe, I'm a freak that don't want cookie spam to be set hehe

maybe I should set allow all cookies and live with that!

I asked the question once on opera forum without any answer, on how secure is opera with cookies set. I'm not sure do they sent your infos and such?

edit: the wiki is right andopera has to at least rename some titles like said in the wiki article. I think they should just make cookies manager working the way it should be. ie like internet explorer and firefox do

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Normal third party cookies "only" track your online behaviour in order for advertisers to display tailored ads based on what sites you visit. So, in my opinion while being a annoyment they are not a real threat to your privacy. I have set Opera to delete new cookies when on exit which I think is sufficient.

It is a common missconception (fed by anti spyware companies) that 3rd party cookies is spyware.

Unfortunately, the anti-spyware industry as a whole has

not reached this level of maturity. Many vendors count

each executable, data file, registry key, etc. belonging to a

package as a new signature. There is also wide variation

in the kinds of threats detected. Some detect backdoors

Trojans and worms, while others do not. Others have

numerous detections for cookies, which have no security

impact and debatable privacy implications.

(my emphasis)

Source: McAfee white paper (pdf)

However there is a exception called web bug that works in relation to recieved and read spam. You can read more about web bugs here

Note that Opera's mail client is immune to web bugs.

Good luck with getting a baby. If it is any comfort I can tell you that I and my ex-wife were behaving like sex mad bunnies for three years before succeding, so...

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Normal third party cookies "only" track your online behaviour in order for advertisers to display tailored ads based on what sites you visit. So, in my opinion while being a annoyment they are not a real threat to your privacy. I have set Opera to delete new cookies when on exit which I think is sufficient.

It is a common missconception (fed by anti spyware companies) that 3rd party cookies is spyware.

(my emphasis)

Source:  McAfee white paper (pdf)

However there is a exception called web bug that works in relation to recieved and read spam. You can read more about web bugs here

Note that Opera's mail client is immune to web bugs.

Good luck with getting a baby. If it is any comfort I can tell you that I and my ex-wife were behaving like sex mad bunnies for three years before succeding, so...

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that is in interesting article about the security in cookies.

I use thebat as email client so I'm far from being in danger hehe

if you delete all cokies upon exit, I guess you use wand to login all the websites right?

and thanks for push for the baby ;)

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SUre, i can use shortcuts.. but who really likes complicated bloody annoying shortcuts like that??

Er... File > New window (not New Page)

Complicated!

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One word: Autocomplete.

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True. One area where Wand doesn't cover completely. Wand is excellent for login pages, but not for areas such as search engine input boxes.

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I don't know why everyone wants FTP imrpovement mroe than TAB improvement. I think Tabs are more vital in a browser than FTP and therefore that should be improved first and then have FTP improved.

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I don't know why everyone wants FTP imrpovement mroe than TAB improvement. I think Tabs are more vital in a browser than FTP and therefore that should be improved first and then have FTP improved.

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Here we go again.

The only so called 'improvement' I can see possible for Opera is to have an option to highlight the tab to the left of the closed tab rather than the previously selected tab.

Otherwise tabs in Opera are more functional than Firefox (well at least FF 1.5 implements drag and drop tabs). If you crave the X button on the right side of the window so much, you could turn on MDI functionality in Opera to get something similar to that.

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Been using Opera since version 7 and introed it to my bro too, we both are 100% Opera users. Made my life on the net really fun.

However both of us feel that IE shows History much better, Its just tough sifting history info that opera provides.

Another small thing is the Go button by default (I know enter works), I did add it later, it might seem trivial but still has its place.

I hope they offically release a stand alone version that runs off a memory stick, so I can use it at work too.

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its not on here but a better pop up manager, i go to some forum sites that have private messages that come up in another window and opera thinks that they are pop ups and a feature like firefoxes where you can choose which sites to accept pop ups from would be great, i havent really checked out 8.5 yet so i dont know if they implemented this but i could never figure out if there was a way to do this through my many excursions in to the options of opera. If they had this i would definately use opera more often.

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I hope they offically release a stand alone version that runs off a memory stick, so I can use it at work too.

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I agree with that as well. I would love to use Portable Opera on my USB stick, but it doesn't have that small 'portable' feel as Portable Firefox. Besides, Portable Firefox is ready to use once you download it.

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The only so called 'improvement' I can see possible for Opera is to have an option to highlight the tab to the left of the closed tab rather than the previously selected tab.

I find this feature very useful sometimes.

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