Matt Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I never really liked Paul to begin with but it's apparent how low the left will go in order to persuade a crowd. This demonstration is exactly what influences the harsh behavior of a lot democrats and I think the leaders within the democratic party should realize that it need not be so fanatical. Ex-Clinton Aide Charges Republicans 'Want to Kill Us'By Jered Ede CNSNews.com Correspondent July 15, 2005 (CNSNews.com) - Young liberals this week flocked to the nation's capital to hear, among other things, liberal television pundit and Democrat political strategist Paul Begala accuse Republicans of wanting to kill him and his children to preserve tax cuts for the rich. Begala was featured at the first-ever Campus Progress National Student Conference, which was designed to provide campus liberals with the tools necessary to fight the conservative movement. The event also drew former President Bill Clinton, for whom Begala once worked as an advisor. A panel discussion entitled "Winning the War of Ideas" centered on topics discussed in the book "What's the Matter with Kansas" by Thomas Frank and detailed the challenges that Democrats face in persuading voters in the American heartland and elsewhere to embrace their agenda and support their candidates. Begala's presence on the panel created a stir when he declared that Republicans had "done a p***-poor job of defending" the U.S. Republicans, he said, "want to kill us. "I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit" on Sept. 11, 2001. "I had friends on that plane; this is deadly serious to me," Begala said. "They want to kill me and my children if they can. But if they just kill me and not my children, they want my children to be comforted -- that while they didn't protect me because they cut my taxes, my children won't have to pay any money on the money they inherit," Begala said. "That is bulls*** national defense, and we should say that." The Clinton administration's national security efforts involved the right blend of "experience" and "strength," Begala said, an assertion with which the 9/11 Commission apparently disagreed. In its report, the bipartisan commission stated that "each president considered or authorized covert actions, a process that consumed considerable time -- especially in the Clinton administration -- and achieved little success beyond the collection of intelligence." Begala also included Republican domestic policies in his sweeping criticism. The GOP, he said, "ain't had a new idea since they opposed Social Security, and guess what, they still do. ... They are beginning to figure out that there is no Soviet Union, but they still want Star Wars to stop it," Begala said. "Okay, they are utterly and completely brain-dead," echoing comments earlier this year by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, who accused Republicans of being "brain dead." Frank insisted that Republicans are not quite as tough on national security as many Americans think. "Franklin Roosevelt got us in World War II. They dragged the Republicans kicking and screaming. They didn't want to get in that war. They didn't have any problem with Hitler. I won't go so far as to say they thought Hitler rocked. But there were people in America who did, and they didn't want us to get in that war. Democrats have always been just as tough as Republicans once they're in office," Frank said. Frank did not mention one of the most vocal opponents of U.S. intervention in World War II: Democrat Joseph P. Kennedy, who was one of Roosevelt's top fundraisers, the U.S. ambassador to Great Britain and father of John F. Kennedy, who would later become America's 35th president. Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., the eldest of the ambassador's sons, wrote his father with his own observations of the global conflict. Hitler's "dislike of the Jews ... was well-founded," the younger Kennedy explained in his letter. "In every revolution, you have to expect some bloodshed. Hitler is building a spirit in his men that could be envied in this country," wrote Kennedy, Jr., expressing an opinion his father shared. "I was very pleased and gratified at your observations of the German situation, and I think your conclusions are very sound," the elder Kennedy replied to his son. Frank defended his point, however, claiming that Republicans didn't see Hitler as a threat to America until Pearl Harbor. He repeated the Democratic criticism of America's invasion of Iraq. Saddam Hussein "was a horrible (sic), a dictator, a butcher, a tyrant, a mass murderer -- as evil as they come," Frank said, but he added: "I don't think he was a threat to the U.S. at the time." Former Clinton administration Chief of Staff John Podesta told the students that "you can fight hard for what you believe without breaking the law, without cheating and certainly without checking your morals at the door." http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?P...L20050715a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Paul Begala is one of the biggest loons on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSoul Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 and his every prediction has been right! 1) Gore will have a very tough election vs Bush 2) Kerry wont win vs Bush 3) Iraq war will go wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 He's only made three predictions? Think about it....all of those 'predictions' are a 50/50 guess. Ooooh. I'm impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necrominion Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 and his every prediction has been right!1) Gore will have a very tough election vs Bush 2) Kerry wont win vs Bush 3) Iraq war will go wrong 586224980[/snapback] Even I predicted all that...hell, any intellectual moderate thinking person did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted July 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 17, 2005 aww i liked paul but yea he is a bit of a loon. he was good on crossfire though and his recent comment just wasnt needed. sad, sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 My transcript from the Campus Progress video: BEGALA: I bet my life on this, if on August 6 Al Gore was on vacation and the CIA gave him a briefing that said, Mr. President ...Katrina Van Heuvel walks onto the stage, and she is introduced. BEGALA: He [Gore] would have done more than play golf. He would have. He would have moved because of the experience that he had and the toughness that he has, he would have moved to stop that. Whether or not it would have worked I don't know but he knew a lot about airport security, he knew a lot about counter-terrorism--he had chaired something called the "Gore Commission," when we thought it was a terrorist attack on an airplane that turned out not to be--but Clinton created this "Gore Commission" on airport security. What would they have done though if Gore had done what Bush did? --Ignore the briefing --and then on the day of the attack, p----- his pants and hid in the side of a mountain in Omaha and left Joe Lieberman to run the country and order shoot-downs of civillian airliners. Ok, they would have impeached him. Yet we sit back and allow Geoge W. Bush and our Republican friends to pull out 9/11 like a cheap handgun in a bar fight. BEGALA: (Pretending to talk like Bush) Ok, 9/11. There's a drought in the midwest. 9/11! (inaudible) Right? The deficit's up! 9/11! BEGALA: You know? But I think we need we need to fight them on that. I think frankly they did a p--- poor job of defending us and their strategy is always, "we'll fight them over there so we don't fight them here." Well guess what? Bin Laden didn't get the memo. He wants to fight us here as well as we saw in London last week. And so their theory is--we can't really do everything to protect our country because we have to cut taxes for the rich. And so--they want to kill us. Particularly in this city, New York and some other places. I was driving past the Pentagon when that plane hit--I had friends on that plane. This is deadly serious to me. They want to kill me and my children if they can--but if they just kill me and not my children, they want my children to be comforted that while they didn't protect me because they cut my taxes, my children won't have to pay any money on the money they inherit. You know, that is bull---- national defense and we should say that. They are weak on defense. Begala was acting like bit of an emotional caricature of himself, yet still not in the same ballpark as these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3beanlimit Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Paul Begala is one of the biggest loons on the planet. 586224936[/snapback] He's following in the footsteps of Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Coulter, Scarborough, O'Reilly, Hume, Liddy, Novak, Noonan, Sullivan, Snow, and a host of others. If your comparing him in the post he's held, then it's kinda silly when Rove comes into play. He doesn't hold a candle to dirty deeds done cheap. Rove wins hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 ^ What the hell? Paul Begala is so far removed from reality that he's not even sure what planet he's living on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3beanlimit Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 ^ What the hell? Paul Begala is so far removed from reality that he's not even sure what planet he's living on. 586228299[/snapback] LOL...compared to Rove and the others I've listed? Haaaaaaahahahahahaaahahaaa.. Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Pretty much so, Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3beanlimit Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Ok.....you need examples? Are memories around here really that short? I say if one from the left starts doing what I've outlined in my first post then good deal. Nothing wrong with handing the far right nut cases some of their own medicine. Seems that castor oil is only for one side to use, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 LOL...compared to Rove and the others I've listed? Haaaaaaahahahahahaaahahaaa..Good one! 586228547[/snapback] :huh: What the hell are you talking about? Yes, Begala is more removed from civilization then Rove. Although I fail to see what Rove has to do with this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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