richardsim7 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well, I was talking to my friend the other day, and he made the point that Firefox version ONE is better than IE version SIX You'd of thought MS would have gotten something right by now :happy: :laugh: -Rich- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetix63 Veteran Posted July 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 17, 2005 But before Firefox came Mozilla, and before that was the whole Netscape suite of stuff. In the grand scheme of things, Firefox/Mozilla/whatever has been around a lot longer than Internet Explorer has - so I'm afraid that statement is looking rather false... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted July 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well they must be doing something right if the majority are using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsim7 Posted July 17, 2005 Author Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hey don't flame me :huh: I didn't say it :p -Rich- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetix63 Veteran Posted July 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 17, 2005 No, but you posted it, hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 They are all browsers and they all do the same thing. Who cares. IE is MUCH older than firefox thats probably why Version 1 is better than IE 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Cu_Guy Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) But before Firefox came Mozilla, and before that was the whole Netscape suite of stuff. In the grand scheme of things, Firefox/Mozilla/whatever has been around a lot longer than Internet Explorer has - so I'm afraid that statement is looking rather false... Not really. If you were to examine the Netscape timeline you'd realize you statement is incorrect. Mosaic Netscape Mosaic (0.9), using Mosaic in name help market the browser Lawsuit...references to Mosaic dropped, continued internal use of Mozilla (Mosaic Killer) codename Netscape Navigator upto 4.0 4.0 codebase...Communicator (suite) appears, widely available blah blah blah....code goes open source OSS community forms, name pays homage to Mozilla codename Mozilla dev team begins work, commercial version to released as Netscape Communicator 5 Majority of code is scrapped, Netscape version skip, Gecko (aka Raptor) is born Netscape extensions (and AOL bundles) to Mozilla (suite) result in buggy Netscape 6 (suite) releases Mozilla good, buggy Netscape 6 doesn't help Mozilla's image Mozilla gets lotsa press, people look passed Netscape to Mozilla Netscape 7 fails to impress, true Mozilla converts Mozilla bloated and getting fatter blah blah blah...work begins on Phoenix, a lot of code stripped (ie UI garbage), Mozilla still actively developed blah blah blah, AOL bungles Netscape, Mozilla Foundation born, numerous name changes blah blah blah, Netscape is an ISP, Mozilla (SeaMonkey) to be killed off, emphasis on Firefox The problem IE is that it hasn't had any significant development in quite awhile Edited July 18, 2005 by El_Cu_Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtchange Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Well they must be doing something right if the majority are using it. 586227516[/snapback] yes, packaging it with windows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wado Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next? Edited July 18, 2005 by Wado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futb0l Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next? 586230398[/snapback] It has to be the next. I mean, it's one of the best features in a browser you can have. Hopefully, they will invent their own feature too and not just leech off Firefox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jantjetest Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 where do you think FF got tabbed browsing etc. from? they didn't invent it. and what's wrong with implementing good features, even if you didn't invent them. all software companies do it, as long it is legal. and about the zip format: winzip didn't invent the zip format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted July 18, 2005 Supervisor Share Posted July 18, 2005 Version numbers are nearly irrelavent when it comes to determining what is better. Just look at Winamp 3... By the way, I know this will come as quite a shock, especially for fanboys, but it doesn't matter who had it first - only who has it now and who doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Battery Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 How many more times must we see this :cry: All software has its problems, firefox will have security problems in the future and IE will continue to as well because they have new features as time goes by and integrate with other software that comes about too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Cu_Guy Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 where do you think FF got tabbed browsing etc. from? they didn't invent it. Netcaptor. Though the Mozilla and Firefox implementation is different. Opera utilizes pages/tabs opened within a single container window (unless it's been changed, never been a big Opera user). Netcaptor and all other wrappers open new instances of IE within a single container window. It will be interesting to actually dive into how tabs are implemented in IE7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted July 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 19, 2005 With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next? 586230398[/snapback] Well there's always choice. Give users the basics, and let them find alternatives if they need to. (IMHO, the native ZIPper is crap. No way to specify the level of compression. I'd roughly guess that less than 18% of Windows XP users use the built in ZIPper.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkishdelight Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 The version number misconception is very annoying, at least to me when I try to explain to n00bs that Firefox 1.0.6 is (at least at the moment) faster and better than IE 6 or Netscape 8. n00bs: "Yeah right j00 luz3r just look @ t3h version #s netscape has like version 8 already and that fires#*t is only 1.0.6 dont kid me" Luckily, FF 1.5 is just around the corner :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doodzzz Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Old, new, better, worse...as long as you're gaining more knowledge and gaining more experience with stuff, what the heck.. let them invent, rip, extract, leech...whatever the heck it is, we all should be bloody happy that we've reached this point of no return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Kirklander Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 IE 6 with Maxthon 1.x = Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinsc Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 IE 6 with Maxthon 1.x = Win 586308570[/snapback] or IE 6 with Avant :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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