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Well, I was talking to my friend the other day, and he made the point that Firefox version ONE is better than IE version SIX

You'd of thought MS would have gotten something right by now :happy: :laugh:

-Rich-

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But before Firefox came Mozilla, and before that was the whole Netscape suite of stuff. In the grand scheme of things, Firefox/Mozilla/whatever has been around a lot longer than Internet Explorer has - so I'm afraid that statement is looking rather false...

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They are all browsers and they all do the same thing. Who cares.

IE is MUCH older than firefox thats probably why Version 1 is better than IE 6.

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But before Firefox came Mozilla, and before that was the whole Netscape suite of stuff. In the grand scheme of things, Firefox/Mozilla/whatever has been around a lot longer than Internet Explorer has - so I'm afraid that statement is looking rather false...

Not really. If you were to examine the Netscape timeline you'd realize you statement is incorrect.

Mosaic

Netscape Mosaic (0.9), using Mosaic in name help market the browser

Lawsuit...references to Mosaic dropped, continued internal use of Mozilla (Mosaic Killer) codename

Netscape Navigator upto 4.0

4.0 codebase...Communicator (suite) appears, widely available

blah blah blah....code goes open source

OSS community forms, name pays homage to Mozilla codename

Mozilla dev team begins work, commercial version to released as Netscape Communicator 5

Majority of code is scrapped, Netscape version skip, Gecko (aka Raptor) is born

Netscape extensions (and AOL bundles) to Mozilla (suite) result in buggy Netscape 6 (suite) releases

Mozilla good, buggy Netscape 6 doesn't help Mozilla's image

Mozilla gets lotsa press, people look passed Netscape to Mozilla

Netscape 7 fails to impress, true Mozilla converts

Mozilla bloated and getting fatter

blah blah blah...work begins on Phoenix, a lot of code stripped (ie UI garbage), Mozilla still actively developed

blah blah blah, AOL bungles Netscape, Mozilla Foundation born, numerous name changes

blah blah blah, Netscape is an ISP, Mozilla (SeaMonkey) to be killed off, emphasis on Firefox

The problem IE is that it hasn't had any significant development in quite awhile

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With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next?

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With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next?

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It has to be the next. I mean, it's one of the best features in a browser you can have. Hopefully, they will invent their own feature too and not just leech off Firefox.

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where do you think FF got tabbed browsing etc. from? they didn't invent it.

and what's wrong with implementing good features, even if you didn't invent them. all software companies do it, as long it is legal.

and about the zip format: winzip didn't invent the zip format.

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Version numbers are nearly irrelavent when it comes to determining what is better. Just look at Winamp 3...

By the way, I know this will come as quite a shock, especially for fanboys, but it doesn't matter who had it first - only who has it now and who doesn't.

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How many more times must we see this :cry:

All software has its problems, firefox will have security problems in the future and IE will continue to as well because they have new features as time goes by and integrate with other software that comes about too.

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where do you think FF got tabbed browsing etc. from? they didn't invent it.

Netcaptor. Though the Mozilla and Firefox implementation is different. Opera utilizes pages/tabs opened within a single container window (unless it's been changed, never been a big Opera user). Netcaptor and all other wrappers open new instances of IE within a single container window.

It will be interesting to actually dive into how tabs are implemented in IE7.

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With Bill Gates' annoying habit of take the best software/software features and adding it to Windows (e.g WinXP has native zip file handling? I wonder how the writers of WinZip and others felt about that one?) I suspect that IE7 will have the best features of Firefox. I have seen that it will feature tabbed browsing...could installable extensions be next?

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Well there's always choice. Give users the basics, and let them find alternatives if they need to.

(IMHO, the native ZIPper is crap. No way to specify the level of compression. I'd roughly guess that less than 18% of Windows XP users use the built in ZIPper.)

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The version number misconception is very annoying, at least to me when I try to explain to n00bs that Firefox 1.0.6 is (at least at the moment) faster and better than IE 6 or Netscape 8.

n00bs: "Yeah right j00 luz3r just look @ t3h version #s netscape has like version 8 already and that fires#*t is only 1.0.6 dont kid me"

Luckily, FF 1.5 is just around the corner :)

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Old, new, better, worse...as long as you're gaining more knowledge and gaining more experience with stuff, what the heck.. let them invent, rip, extract, leech...whatever the heck it is, we all should be bloody happy that we've reached this point of no return.

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