Boffa Jones Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 Also untill the death penalty is banned in the states they really can't say much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcom826 Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Also untill the death penalty is banned in the states they really can't say much. 586290302[/snapback] Yes we can, but if you don't want us to, we wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 True. I just don't see how the gov't can't see the hypocracy? I refer only to the gov't. But honestly, how can you support the chair and be opposed to hanging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 True. I just don't see how the gov't can't see the hypocracy? I refer only to the gov't. But honestly, how can you support the chair and be opposed to hanging? 586290761[/snapback] Well capital punishment is reserved for a very specific kind of murder, and used only for that in the US. Anything less than "horrorific 1st degree murder", will not get you killed by the US justice system. I mean personally I'm against the death penalty as a whole, but clearly it is used slightly more rationally in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 Well capital punishment is reserved for a very specific kind of murder, and used only for that in the US. Anything less than "horrorific 1st degree murder", will not get you killed by the US justice system.I mean personally I'm against the death penalty as a whole, but clearly it is used slightly more rationally in the US. 586291624[/snapback] as camus noted, the death penalty is the only type of murder in which the victim is warned beforehand, imprisoned for years in abject conditions, then forced to be conscious of the uncertainty over when he will die and the certainty that he will die at the hand of another. no other murder comes close. on the one hand, execution is a rational machine. on the other hand, it is completely irrational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 (edited) Nonsense, I refuse to accept that the Iranian government has a right to kill it's citizens. Especially if the human rights groups are correct and they are being executed in actuality for merely being gay.It isn't about hiding. It is about what the executioner is supposed to represent. The fact that they wear masks is because it is "all of society" that is killing this person, not the individual that actually hangs them. 586286005[/snapback] nonsense is you saying that when the death penalty is still used in the USA... in the USA you might get executed for murder. in iran, homosexuality/rape might carry the same penalty. whether you like it or not or think its right or not isnt important. Edited July 29, 2005 by predator001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 on the one hand, execution is a rational machine. on the other hand, it is completely irrational. 586291855[/snapback] Hence the qualifier "slightly" in my statement. nonsense is you saying that when the death penalty is still used in the USA... 586291912[/snapback] First of all I do not have the power to change the death penalty's legal status in the USA, if I did it would already be gone. I do not believe that any state has the right to end the life of any of it's citizens. in the USA you might get executed for murder. in iran, homosexuality/rape might carry the same penalty. whether you like it or not or think its right or not isnt important. Again, ammoral nonsense. Because I haven't the power to change something at the moment I am to just accept it, no matter how wrong I view it to be? I refuse to accept that, nor should anyone. Speaking out against an injustice (as I see it) is not only my right, but my obligation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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