Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 Ok, I just got off a post I started that ended up being pointless (and I'd like to apologize for that), but some interesting things came out of it. So anyway, I was wondering, since internet explorer is more compatable than firefox most of the time, I want to feel safe using it. So, is there any software out there to make it more secure (besides sp2 and waiting for ie7)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Disable all javascript and ActiveX. Of course, without any javascript, it wouldn't be very compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 Not the answer I was hoping for, but the one I knew was coming. The next question then: when MS releases ie7 on august 3, will it be public or invites only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I made IE secure even before sp2 came out, but when sp2 came out it made the process way easier. heres what you can do. make a list of sites that you know that trusted (company sites, etc). and a list of sites that you know are not trusted. place the trusted and not trusted sites in their resective security zones. set the non trusted security zone to not allow anything to occur (disable everything). set the trusted security zone the medium. set the Internet security zone to high. make sure that you set the cookies setting to either high or medium-high. try that out. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 sorry, ignore this. made a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 That's exactly what Netscape 8 does, now that I think about it. Except for secure sites it uses ie, and for medium and non-trusted sites it uses Firefox. But my problem for Netscape is that it takes a long time to start up, and adds extra time to computer startup. But I'll try your idea. I still want to know about ie7, though, even if it has probably been answered thousands of times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 oh, i also forgot. get the MSN toolbar. This method that I used was so good that I never go a single piece of adware. To increase security, run as a limited user. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootWind Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 In addition to that: You can also use SpywareBlaster, a custom Hosts file, and yes: DropMyRights http://msdn.microsoft.com/security/securec...ure11152004.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 a custom Hosts file? What is that? And when I try to add to Trusted Sites, it says it needs to have a prefix of https://. But there isn't a https://www.msn.com, and I don't think a lot of my trusted sites have https://. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPHP Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 https is a secure connection AFAIK. Only uses for banks etc. (Anything where personal details are needed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 Ok, found the checkbox, now I can add anything. One step ahead of you, STV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 make sure that the https:/// thing is unchecked. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amrinders87 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Disable all javascript and ActiveX. Of course, without any javascript, it wouldn't be very compatible. 586263455[/snapback] Well even Firefox has Javascript. And javascript can't do any damange, like installing stuff on your computer. But it can be used to fool people. Just by removing Active X will do the job. Thats why Microsoft changed the way IE handles them in IE 6 SP 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 follow #2 and you'll be fine. https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=320467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 follow #2 and you'll be fine.https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=320467 586263744[/snapback] thats the same attitude that the United States has about medical treatment. wait till you get sick and then pay for it. how about trying to prevent it first so you wont need treatment. also, make sure your firewall is turned on. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 thats the same attitude that the United States has about medical treatment. wait till you get sick and then pay for it. how about trying to prevent it first so you wont need treatment.also, make sure your firewall is turned on. STV 586263780[/snapback] :laugh: i pity you. what's wrong with my suggestion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 I downloaded Spyware Blaster and enabled protection in Frefox, Internet Explorer, and I enabled Restricted Sites. But before every entry in restricted sites, there is a *. Does that stand for subdomains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 (edited) i guess you dont really know what pity means to use it in such a way.? there is nothing wrong with your suggestion, its the way of thinking that is wrong.you're supposed to put up preventative measures up first so that you dont need to clean up any mess later. if you just leave your system "be" you'll get all sorts of crap.? then you use those tools to clean up the mess, but by then there is something in your system that doesnt want to leave.? this is the mess that I am trying to help him/her avoid.? its like being raped and infected with HIV. STV 586263863[/snapback] you didn't really read #2 did yo:sleep:eep: i pity you because I'm in Cana;). ;) Edited July 24, 2005 by slimy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STV Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 :laugh: i pity you. what's wrong with my suggestion? 586263827[/snapback] i guess you dont really know what pity means to use it in such a way. there is nothing wrong with your suggestion, its the way of thinking that is wrong. you're supposed to put up preventative measures up first so that you dont need to clean up any mess later. if you just leave your system "be" you'll get all sorts of crap. then you use those tools to clean up the mess, but by then there is something in your system that doesnt want to leave. this is the mess that I am trying to help him/her avoid. its like being raped and infected with HIV. STV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 Go Canada Go! Anyway, I feel safe enough in Internet Explorer now, thanks everyone! I am going to find out a bit about DropMyRights, like how to use it, so I may be back, please don't close this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted July 24, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2005 I figured out how to use DropMyRights, but it screwed up. I made a shortcut leading to this: "C:\Documents and Settings\simon\My Documents\MSDN\DropMyRights\DropMyRights.exe" "c:\program files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe" It opens Internet Explorer, and then Internet Explorer froze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 i don't know what dropmyrights is but i have no problems with the way I do things, no spyware/adware/malware whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotRoot Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Why not just run IE as a non-admin user? You don't have to log out for it. Just right-click the shortcut or binary and then click Run As... and select a limited user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 25, 2005 MVC Share Posted July 25, 2005 Why not just run IE as a non-admin user? You don't have to log out for it. Just right-click the shortcut or binary and then click Run As... and select a limited user. 586266093[/snapback] Why not just be logged in as a NON admin user account? And only auth as an admin when needed..Like someone would use runas every time they want to launch a browser ;) IE can be be secured.. just turn off all the BS, activeX without prompt, etc.. there is nothing wrong with running activex controls - as long as you trust where they came from.. the problem is the users.... To be honest the only reason people get infected with crap - its they have no freaking clue.. they think they are playing some wack-a-mole game or something.. anything that pops up they click on.. If it blinks enough at them, then they click it ;) You only need to read one day of posts even here on neowin to understand why people get infected with crap -- they are stupid!! Its not the latest exploit, and they have not been updated it.. its that they are complete idiots that click on anything that pops up on their screen.. Yes you need to keep your machine updated, and not be directly exposed to the net.. be it behind a router, or firewall (depending on your connection options).. But I have yet to find one person that had clue 1 to what they were doing that got infected with some crap.. its only the lusers that get infected.. Maybe you have heard the quote before "knowledge is power" I do not expect everyone to be a MCSE or RHCE, but come on -- how hard is it to NOT click on the latest popup, or the exe that shows up in your email from yourself ;) Sure are there issues with browser security - YES!!! but most of the problems fall to users issues.. you can not blame all of the issues on exploits in code! The USER has to take some responsibility!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathray Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I've never in my experience had any problem with Internet Explorer. Im not sure what sites you run into, but i've never had spyware or adware on my comp. Although, I still use firefox because of personal preference, it's just more features, none of which relate to any security features or such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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