The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) This is just a bit of information for you css designers out there as of Beta 1, the only rendering update to Trident is RGBA PNG support, it's at the same state as IE6. limited support for css1, limited support for css2, cant even show xhtml pages. So if anybody thought it would change, looks like you were wrong (most of us were) Edit: found this out after i posted, they have partly fixed the guillotine bug (http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html) Edited July 28, 2005 by The_Decryptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Vice Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 This is only Beta 1 though, they could still add support in Beta 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 I hope that happens. but really, would you expect full CSS1 and CSS2.1 support to be added in the time between one beta? (not counting DOM and XHTML, or even full HTML 4.01 support) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zhangm Supervisor Posted July 28, 2005 Supervisor Share Posted July 28, 2005 Damn, damn, damn... I hope the IE team redeem themselves between Beta 1 and B2. Otherwise, I can't see the web adopting standards support with this piece of garbage sitting on every WindowsXP/Vista system out there. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Vice Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I hope that happens.but really, would you expect full CSS1 and CSS2.1 support to be added in the time between one beta? (not counting DOM and XHTML, or even full HTML 4.01 support) 586284879[/snapback] Well, to be honest we really don't know Beta1 could have just been upgrading the interface and putting in some needed features and beta 2 (which is already under way) is updating the rendering and core, we just don't know yet. Will they add support for CSS1 and CSS2.1 I do doubt they will since they just think they own everything and these things people don't "need" but I will give them the benefit of the doubt until the final hits, Wishful thinking? Perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) well, reading this page http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ this guy is pretty knowledgeable, and has had dealings with ms and the ie team, so if he says they wouldnt be able to do it in 6 months, i am inclined to belive him. Edited July 28, 2005 by The_Decryptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 JMann Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 That's rediculous. If they don't start changing thing's Web Designers all over the world are going to be going nuts. :yes: or.. downloading firefox. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 lunamonkey Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 So they haven't added anything like .... min-height max-height border-radius I hope they do by RC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 _Dom_ Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 as i keep saying... IE7 will not make that bigger difference to web standards for a while.... how many web design books still mention NS4... how many companies still run IE5 or IE5.5, all the time we hear companys are still running on win 98 and 2000, to make a big chance things like front page, dreamweaver, fireworks (when it exports) have to start output standard code (photoshop already does so if the merger goes ahead with adobe i hope they can make it happen) and these WYSIWYG programs should teach about standards and the W3C, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 neufuse Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...&displaylang=en IE Technical overview document Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 Dreamweaver MX outputs valid xhtml transitional if you tell it to, it's pretty good for that. and, soon, their preview interface will start being able to render css1 and css2 better than it does currently (or so i have read) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Laptop Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Still sticking to FFX and thats all im supporting installed IE7 Not impressed at all. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Antaris Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 Will they add support for CSS1 and CSS2.1 I do doubt they will since they just think they own everything and these things people don't "need" but I will give them the benefit of the doubt until the final hits, Wishful thinking? Perhaps. 586285192[/snapback] I disagree, considering the success of other browsers (in particular Firefox), I think it's in their best interests to adopt as many of the web standards as possible, and I think Microsoft knows that, just because support for these standards is lacking in this early beta, doesn't mean it's not going to happen. Without a doubt they will be plugging all manner of IE specific extensions to these standards, but what good will that do if they don't add support for these standards anyway? They want to maintain browser superiority, and this can only be achieved by accepting what is available now, and I think when IE7 is finally released, we will all be pleasantly surprised...or I'll eat my hat ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The_Decryptor Veteran Posted July 28, 2005 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2005 we will all be pleasantly surprised...or I'll eat my hat ;-) 586285648[/snapback] i want to be surprised, more likely i will be watching you eat your hat. the fact is, they dont have the time to add full support for css1, css2.1 (they need that), dom1, dom2, html 4.01 and xhtml. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 turkishdelight Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Which is a shame, because I was hoping to see a great reduction in the number of n00bs creating pages based on the "standard non-W3C HTML template," aka: <html> <head> <title> </title> </head> <body> </body> </html> Then again, IE7 probably won't make too big of a ripple in the way people design pages at first, because many companies and such would still use IE5 or something :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EduardValencia Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 lets pary,hope CSS bug will be fixed towards beta 2,in fact what are they testing in beta 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 _Dom_ Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 tabs dude... and they just look wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 amrinders87 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I just hope they add z-index property to form elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 _Dom_ Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 im hopeing for the max-width and min-width and the hover property for everything not JUST links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Antaris Veteran Posted July 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 29, 2005 I just hope they add z-index property to form elements. 586287779[/snapback] Ditto, being able to z-index windowed controls will be welcome, without having to go through all that work-around crap...we want it simple and straight forward!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 bren Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I don't see what the big deal is if they do fix it. It will still be a good couple of years till professionals can use it anyway because IE 6.0 will still need to be supported! :alien: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jinx4848 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Uhmm hate to horn in here but you guys should read the IEBlog if you're going to criticize them about whether or not theyre fixing bugs They've openly said that CSS fixing will _only_ take place starting from beta2. I don't know what exactly they were doing in b1 because really theres nothing to it... but the REAL browser work will be done for b2. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This is just a bit of information for you css designers out there
as of Beta 1, the only rendering update to Trident is RGBA PNG support, it's at the same state as IE6.
limited support for css1, limited support for css2, cant even show xhtml pages.
So if anybody thought it would change, looks like you were wrong (most of us were)
Edit: found this out after i posted, they have partly fixed the guillotine bug (http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html)
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