Raum Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 Then ask yourself; would you be using these drugs if you were allowed to or do you want to do it just because you can't? I don't do drugs and I'm fine. I can also type better than most people on the board. I don't think you need drugs to be creative, that's just a lame excuse in my opinion. There are better things you can do in your free time. 586298733[/snapback] You peopl ejust don't get it, do you? 1. People get high, to get high/. It feels goods, period. 2. No, when you smoke, you don't need to be high to enjoy life. Likewise, you don't need to smoke to be creative. It's just a property of marijuana, when smoked, that it can inspire creativity. Just like when you eat a lot of turkey, it has chemical properties that can make you sleepy. It's not a reliance, it's chemisty 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacrifist Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 You peopl ejust don't get it, do you?1. People get high, to get high/. It feels goods, period. 2. No, when you smoke, you don't need to be high to enjoy life. Likewise, you don't need to smoke to be creative. It's just a property of marijuana, when smoked, that it can inspire creativity. Just like when you eat a lot of turkey, it has chemical properties that can make you sleepy. It's not a reliance, it's chemisty 101. 586298754[/snapback] it never made me feel good, i always wanted to sleep after smoking weed. The so called high is nothing but a big low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 it should be legal although, i agree with 'theyarecomingforyou' amongst some people it is a trendy thing to do. i cant stand the people who are like 'maaan, i got SO stoned last night' and so on, just to advertise themselves. I've been smoking for over 3 years, i think. i dont see anything about it that makes it 'bad' or anything, after smoking alot you just feel like sitting down and listening to music or watching tv, you dont feel like going out and causing harm to people. Really, there is no decent reason why it should be illegal. Its a safer thing to be doing than say drinking alot of alcohol, and thats legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 it never made me feel good, i always wanted to sleep after smoking weed. The so called high is nothing but a big low. 586298771[/snapback] can you say Sativa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAaaMan64 Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No, I don't feel it should be legal. I don't want anymore sick disgusting smoke in the air.... :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacrifist Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 can you say Sativa? 586298793[/snapback] ya, just pointing out how worthless it was for me, which in turn lead me to other, more lethal drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driph Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 I think it should become legal as long as its used properly, and have age restrictions on it, and dont operate heavy machinery while on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 i agree with 'theyarecomingforyou' amongst some people it is a trendy thing to do. i cant stand the people who are like 'maaan, i got SO stoned last night' and so on, just to advertise themselves. 586298773[/snapback] It is mainly the trendy people that I disagree with. Still, I have met some people that seemed naturally suited to it and weren't doing it because anyone else said to or to rebel, and I respect those people. The problem is that, like smoking and drinking, it can be seen as a "trendy", or "mature", or "rebellious", or "grown-up" thing to do. This is a very difficult situation as why should the government control what people can do with their lives? Ultimately, however, laws are in place to protect society. Drugs being illegal/restricted is very similar to certain chemicals that can be used to make explosives being illegal/restricted - sure there are plus sides to having them legal but the risk to society is deemed greater than the benefit. If society was more responsible then it may be fine to legalise it, but everything I have seen shows the opposite and it would only be one more problem to add to the mix. I'm not saying no just because I choose not to do it - I am saying no because I believe it would be bad for society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 ya, just pointing out how worthless it was for me, which in turn lead me to other, more lethal drugs 586298837[/snapback] well, i guess for some people it's just different. I haven't used pot as a scapegoat for other drugs and i never will...I smoke pot, and drink at times...nothing more, nothing less...and ive been like this for a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n30w1n Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No, pot should not be legal. And I can't stand the argument that it is "no worse", or even, "not as bad" as alcohol. Yes, in equivelant doses alcohol may be more addictive, and more destructive to your judgement. But I got three words for you people, there is no such thing as SECOND HAND ALCOHOL. Harming your body is your own choice. But harming other people's should not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 It is mainly the trendy people that I disagree with. Still, I have met some people that seemed naturally suited to it and weren't doing it because anyone else said to or to rebel, and I respect those people. The problem is that, like smoking and drinking, it can be seen as a "trendy", or "mature", or "rebellious", or "grown-up" thing to do.This is a very difficult situation as why should the government control what people can do with their lives? Ultimately, however, laws are in place to protect society. Drugs being illegal/restricted is very similar to certain chemicals that can be used to make explosives being illegal/restricted - sure there are plus sides to having them legal but the risk to society is deemed greater than the benefit. If society was more responsible then it may be fine to legalise it, but everything I have seen shows the opposite and it would only be one more problem to add to the mix. I'm not saying no just because I choose not to do it - I am saying no because I believe it would be bad for society. 586298859[/snapback] yet alcohol is perfectly legal and effects me in ways pot could never do. n30w1n: even if it was legalized, id never smoke in public...i like to smoke in nice relaxing places, preferably in the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raum Posted July 30, 2005 Author Share Posted July 30, 2005 No, pot should not be legal. And I can't stand the argument that it is "no worse", or even, "not as bad" as alcohol. Yes, in equivelant doses alcohol may be more addictive, and more destructive to your judgement. But I got three words for you people, there is no such thing as SECOND HAND ALCOHOL. Harming your body is your own choice. But harming other people's should not be. 586298864[/snapback] It's your choice to go into a bar that allows smoking. I absolutely hate cigg smoke, but I know to expect it when I go to a concert. I'd be perfectly happy with pot being legal, but smoking it being outlawed in any indoor place or something. I'd stay and chat, but just got called into work. Later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No, except for medical use that it actually helps with the illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 yet alcohol is perfectly legal and effects me in ways pot could never do. 586298866[/snapback] That is one of the many problems in today's society that leads me to believe that pot would only be a problem - society isn't even responsible enough to stop/restrict binge drinking, so I have no reason to believe it would handle pot any better. It gets a bit annoying everyone bringing up alcohol in defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Behelit Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 It gets a bit annoying everyone bringing up alcohol in defense. 586298910[/snapback] Likewise, it gets annoying when people bring up "You'll eventually need pot to enjoy life" as an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munashii Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No, it shouldn't be made legal. I've never done it, never have and never will. I just don't see the point. It's already okay for people with certain diseases to use it for medical purposes, and that's good enough. I prefer natural highs/adrenaline rushes/whatever you want to call them. I find it silly that people waste their money on feeling good. It's like wasting money on sex, when you can get it for free. It gets a bit annoying everyone bringing up alcohol in defense. 586298910[/snapback] Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Pot should not be legalized but should be de-criminalized. 5years in prison for smoking pot but no prison time for drunk driving doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
root Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 The whole concept of "entry drugs" is pretty messed up. Someone who leads the life-style of a drug addict will typically start off with the most basic, commonly used things, just like a sex offender would start off by looking at porn magazines at an early age. So are you gonna outlaw porn next? Is porn the gateway to child molestation? If marijuana didn't exist, I'm pretty sure there would be the same number of hard drug addicts, possibly even more. If you outlawed marijuana because it is an "entry drug", then it would be hypocritical to keep prescriptions drugs such as vicodin in the pharmacies. Who's job is it to judge if giving hydrocodone to a 15 year old won't cause him to notice the euphoric effects which will lead him into experimenting with other drugs like pot, and then heroin to experience the euphoria again? You'd better outlaw nutmeg too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Likewise, it gets annoying when people bring up "You'll eventually need pot to enjoy life" as an argument. 586298921[/snapback] totally agree. It's always the same arguments on both sides. We both get sick of hearing the same things over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacrifist Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 yet alcohol is perfectly legal and effects me in ways pot could never do.n30w1n: even if it was legalized, id never smoke in public...i like to smoke in nice relaxing places, preferably in the night. 586298866[/snapback] you may like to smoke at night, but if it was legalized then people would smoke it everywhere. And I preferably wouldnt want to be standing in line somewhere with 15 people smoking it next to my child. And if you want to argue this, just tell me why people wouldnt smoke it wherever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1WayJonny Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 No. I've seen what it does to people and it's not good. :no: It's just the latest "trendy" thing to do... rather pathetic, imo. Having said that I'm not a great fan of alcohol either, particularly not this latest trend of binge drinking. 586298685[/snapback] I feel ya but .... Latest Trendy thing? My parents probally smoked the **** out of weed the 60's was huge for pot so ths is a long ass trend ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 yet alcohol is perfectly legal and effects me in ways pot could never do.n30w1n: even if it was legalized, id never smoke in public...i like to smoke in nice relaxing places, preferably in the night. 586298866[/snapback] Alcoholic drinks is actually healthy if you drink in the proper proportions. One beer a day provides a vast amount of antioxidants and that helps to keep the arteries elasticity. Marijuana or other drugs like lsd, crack/cocain etc. are damaging no matter how much you consume.Not only that but you can only drink alcoholic drinks within a building like a bar. It's illegal to drink on the streets. Legal pot? People would be in the streets stoned as hell it would be annoying. It's not fair to compare alcohol to pot because the outcome of legal pot would be very different from alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Guys, Sacrifst doesnt know the meaning of self control. See, when he went on his little cocaine binge, he didnt have the willpower to stop on his own. Sacrifst, I'm assuming you went to rehab, because your talking like you were brainwashed. I have smoked pot since I was 15 (26 now). I own my own company, I have a 2 story home in Fort Lauderdale, and I am self motivated. Just because you dont have the willpower to handle any type of drugs, doesnt mean everyone is like you. I can go to a party, and do a line of coke, which is probley twice a year. I have the willpower, and the motivation to keep doing good for myself. You can't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRiver Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 On the side note, I actually thought I saw something related to IBM Thinkpad.. Now it is "Think Pot" :cool: Actually, I never tried it. All my friends around me tried it. I don't look down at them, but I just find them annoying like lazy zombies. They are always late for rent, and they are always broke like bum. Doesn't that make you wonder where their money goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 30, 2005 Share Posted July 30, 2005 Latest Trendy thing?My parents probally smoked the **** out of weed the 60's was huge for pot so ths is a long ass trend ;) 586299111[/snapback] I didn't mean to imply that pot was new... lol. I just meant that too many people are doing it just to be trendy or rebellious. I don't look down at them, but I just find them annoying like lazy zombies. They are always late for rent, and they are always broke like bum. Doesn't that make you wonder where their money goes... 586299269[/snapback] I see that all the time and people still claim it has no side effects. I saw people drop out of college, drop their interests and spend most of their student loans on it. Being a musician means that alot of the people I come across use drugs - I've seen people go from it onto pills, magic mushrooms, speed and acid (it's just an observation - I'm not saying it is a gateway drug). I don't really object to people doing drugs, I just don't see how legalising pot would help anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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