Bin Laden 'is a great man'


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Bin Laden 'is a great man'

August 04, 2005

From: AAP

A MELBOURNE man targeted by ASIO says Osama bin Laden is a great man, adding that he would be betraying his religion if he told his students not to train as terrorists.

Islam did not tolerate other religions, Abdul Nacer Ben Brika said, adding that he was especially opposed to Jews.

Many Muslims fighting against US-led coalition forces in Iraq or Afghanistan were doing the same thing as Prime Minister John Howard in helping US President George W. Bush fight terrorism.

According to ABC radio, ASIO confiscated Mr Ben Brika's passport in March after it raided his home, amid concerns he was likely to prejudice the security of Australia or a foreign country if he travelled overseas.

Mr Ben Brika is a dual Algerian and Australian citizen who has lived in the northern suburbs of Melbourne since 1989.

He denies being involved in any terrorist activities.

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But Mr Ben Brika is a supporter of Osama bin Laden, the head of terrorist network al-Qaeda.

"Osama bin Laden, he is a great man," he told ABC radio.

"Osama bin Laden was a great man before 11 September, which they said he did it, until now nobody knows who did it."

Mr Ben Brika defended Muslims fighting against coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, and said anyone who fought in the name of Allah would be forgiven their sins.

"You may find many Muslims fighting in Iraq or in Afghanistan which, because they believe they are a brother, as John Howard is helping Bush in his war, then the people they do the same," he said.

"According to my religion, jihad is a part of my religion and, what you have to understand that anyone who fights for the sake of Allah, when he dies, the first drop of blood that comes from him out all his sin will be forgiven."

Mr Ben Brika said some of his students had travelled to central Asia to participate in terrorist training camps, but he said he would be betraying his religion if he advised them not to go.

"If I do this, it means I am betraying my own religion," he said.

Muslims faced a problem in Australia as to whether to obey Australian or Islamic laws, he said.

"This is big problem. There are two laws, there is Australian law, there is Islamic law," Mr Ben Brika said.

On other religions, he said: "I am not only against the Jew. I am against anyone who try to harm my religion.

"According to my religion, here, I don't accept all other religions except the religion of Islam.

"I am telling you that my religion doesn't tolerate other religion, it doesn't tolerate."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16153527-29277,00.html

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..... and this is what we're dealing with folks... :no:

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Well not just religion, im sure alot of people in germany would have once agreed Hitler was a "great man". Alot of white supremacists etc would say the same thing about similar people, so not limited merely to religion.

Difference is a man like hitler can be defeated, deconstructed and proven to be wrong, religious pirahas and more problematic their gods and prophets are a little harder to argue against.

Plus its a matter of interpretation, most Muslims dont feel the need to kill westerners and blow themselves up, because its only a small radical minitority that interpret the islamic religions in such a way.

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Well... Seeing as this guy has dual Australian and Algerian, maybe it's time he was made single nationality again and his backside booted out of Australia?

It's about time we stopped pandering to these zealots send em back where they came from, you can send the PC brigade of with em too!

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Rumblephish, is your objective to provoke anti-Islamic feelings? By demonstrating select individuals who interpret Islam as a means to violence, you only encourage the knowledge that Islam condones the extremism that is commonly the headline of the day.

I am curious to know: What is the free speech laws of Australia? Has he broken them?

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"According to my religion"

I'd like to see him point us out where exactly does it say that Islam (or any religion for that matter) goes against other religions or says that we should kill innocent people or provoke useless wars. Yeah that's what I thought.

The problem is that the language used in the holy books such as the Koran can be interpreted in many ways and if someone who studied a religion interprets a passage and says "this is what it means", the strong believers will follow and could careless if hey/she correctly translated the passage. It's easy to play with words.

Why you think people get borked even after signing contracts at the workplace? Some contracts use such a refined and complex language that you'll end up accepting it even though you just gave away your left testicle.

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if you wanna live here and support that scum you can **** off and go back to your own country

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Good post exactly what i said in another thread about the uk but i got banned for posting for 7 days :wacko:

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Rumblephish, is your objective to provoke anti-Islamic feelings? By demonstrating select individuals who interpret Islam as a means to violence, you only encourage the knowledge that Islam condones the extremism that is commonly the headline of the day.

I am curious to know: What is the free speech laws of Australia? Has he broken them?

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By selecting certain individuals? Isn't what everyone does? The anti-american flamers sure do that A LOT.

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And only those insecure in their own country need to point anti-anyone folks, as they have a very sensitive lower groin region, which they cant seem to get rid of the yeast infection from.

Its simply a question of why Rumbleflush needs to constantly post articles which are, inarguably, meant to point out faults and guilt in one specific group of religious folk, who, as a whole, dont generaly support certain acts of ****tyness and terror that rumbleflush seems to regard as conntected to the whole. In regards to ONE specific religion.

If you point out that OTHER major religions have affected people in the same manner, and can be not only accused, but proven guilty of the same mistakes and horrible acts, he either shuts up, or throws out other obtuse, baseless reasons for his religion being better. Its rather amusing.

Just wait untill his other God fearing friends show up and spout how I am anti-christian, and over all anti religion/god or somesuch ****, for pointing out they are hypocrits and thier religion is guilty of the same crap.

Just wanted to Edit it to giggle, as someone will complain, and I will get warned, 'cause they are frigging girls about this crap.

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Rumblephish, is your objective to provoke anti-Islamic feelings? By demonstrating select individuals who interpret Islam as a means to violence, you only encourage the knowledge that Islam condones the extremism that is commonly the headline of the day.

I am curious to know: What is the free speech laws of Australia? Has he broken them?

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I had posted this in other thread...in response to one of his "brilliant" articles. May be he didnt notice it :p

So stop posting your ****ing steriotyping articles which are full of "hey thats a rotten apple...so all apples from that tree must be rotten" attitude.

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Good post exactly what i said in another thread about the uk but i got banned for posting for 7 days  :wacko:

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It wasn't exactly what you said at all nor was that listed as the reason.

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