Capturing osama


When do you think we'll capture Osama ?  

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  1. 1. When do you think we'll capture Osama ?

    • within this year 2005
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    • next week
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    • we've already caught him. just waiting for the right time to announce.
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    • within the next 12 months
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    • never ...
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    • never ...he's already dead.
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One could say the exact same thing about people who believe every conspiracy theory, that they're sheep and only hearing what they want to hear.

You know, if you have proof of that whip it out brother, but no-one does, so all you have is a bunch of, "well Bin Laden recieved money during the Soviet Union occupation of Afghanistan, therefore by extension the US must have kept funding him and Al Qaeda directly", and other speculative crap.

I'm all for the truth, it just so happens that the "truth" always seems to be about as real as the alien autopsy film, so I guess I'll take what you call a "lie" instead.

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One could say the exact same thing about people who believe every conspiracy theory, that they're sheep and only hearing what they want to hear.

You know, if you have proof of that whip it out brother, but no-one does, so all you have is a bunch of, "well Bin Laden recieved money during the Soviet Union occupation of Afghanistan, therefore by extension the US must have kept funding him and Al Qaeda directly", and other speculative crap.

I'm all for the truth, it just so happens that the "truth" always seems to be about as real as the alien autopsy film, so I guess I'll take what you call a "lie" instead.

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23/11/2001

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm nuff said.

btw the fbi released a video of osama bin laden praising this guy and the rest of the hijackers how can that be?

if osama set this up why would he recognise this guy and praise him?

Here is a more recent report from wikipedia where they name 1of the hijackers alive and well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohand_al-Shehri

and here is evidence of the other 9 http://welfarestate.com/911/

show me evidence that any of this is a lie then you can call me a conspiracy theorist.

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Theres definately more than what their seems behind 9/11. Those buildings look more like they were professionally demolished, rather than collapsing. I might add that the steel in the buildings could not have melted. Even the chief of police was quoted in saying that no building has ever collapsed because of melting steel. If it was somehow true, why did the FBI and other agents remove all the evidence without letting engineers and architects learn from it? And why was the hole in the pentagon smaller than the plane that supposed to of hit it. Oh, and why was their no plane debris?

Theres definately more to it, but all the public needed to know is we are going to war with Iraq for oi....terrorists (who are all alive and well nearly).

I think Osama is probably the least of worries right now, what the government is hiding it more of a worry. :yes:

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In all reality the identities of the hijackers are of little importance. The guys are dead, and burned, melted, crushed, gone, we'll never know for sure who hijacked the planes, what I do think is very real is that Al-Qaeda was behind the attacks. I'm not arguing that the identities of the hijackers are in doubt, I'll give you that, but I don't think it changes much.

My argument with you was that you implied that Bin Laden is still recieving money from the CIA, and that this was all a much larger US led plot, which I don't think it is, and there's no evidence to say there is.

Now to ziadoz, the steel doesn't have to melt it just has to bend and steel very much so bends in heat, how do you think they make steel pillars in the first place? And the chief of police says that a building has never collapsed due to melting steel, am I the only one who thinks I shouldn't get my architectural engineering information from a police chief? It is completely in the realm of possibility that the steel heated enough to buckle, that's all it needs to do, it doesn't have to melt and fall to the ground like diarrehea or some crap. I've had many a steel barrell on my 240 turn red hot just from firing rounds through it, and I've seen several bent SAW barrells just from firing rounds down range, so the idea that burning jet fuel can't do the same thing is insane.

As for the Pentagon dealio, yeah there's alot of unanswered stuff, and I'm not a qualified enough person to answer that, although there was plane debris there, but I'll let that slide since you probably got your info from a French conspiracy site.

I will say this, if this was a US conspiracy the amount of people that would know is just soo much that there's really no chance.

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If your faith is so easily waivered by seeing some parchment wetted then perhaps you're not so solid in your faith. 

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Dude, I think it goes deeper than that. It's more about respect for other people's core beliefs (,faith, ...whatever). From any angle, the peeing episode ain't going to help bridge the differences.

Fact is, the PoWs (are they PoWs ? I heard that they described as something else for legal issues) in Gitmo have info which we need, and seriously alienating them ain't going to help us get our hands on it.

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I'm not saying urinating on someones holy book isn't morally and ethically wrong, I'm just saying it shouldn't cause nightmares and isn't torture by any means.

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^ your post doesn't match your title or your poll. :blink:

- to that end I think your right. It's just stupid to do.

As for the poll, I believe Osama is dead. If he were alive the guy would likely make more footage, bigger plans. I think it's his generals trying to keep the fight alive. But largely they have no real vision, so it's not as ambitious.

I could be wrong. Osama could be alive on a respirator...better not let his wives/sons find out about terry Shiavo. ;)

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Looking at photographs of that area, I think finding anyone is near impossible (assuming they have local support and don't want to be caught). We have had troops there looking for him day in and day out for years, I think its a lost cause but hey tomorrow could be the big day for all we know (those of us here on neowin who know nearly nothing of the daily goings on over there, especially the sensitive details of operations)

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I'm more sure he exists than the French Army.

Ok, bad joke, just kidding. But it was a very good conspiracy, I mean we even had the USSR in on it, when they were complaining about him and his ilk during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, I guess the Skull and Bones go really deep huh? When did the Saudi Royal Family, and the National Congress Party of Sudan attend Yale, so they could have also taken part in this massive US conspiracy?

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Don't you guys find it intriguing how Osama hasn't been caught even though CIA, MOSSAD, and several other intelligence agencies are after him? I don't think it's possible for a man to hide once you get all those people after you. Makes me think.. :s

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Don't you guys find it intriguing how Osama hasn't been caught even though CIA, MOSSAD, and several other intelligence agencies are after him? I don't think it's possible for a man to hide once you get all those people after you. Makes me think.. :s

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You are playing armchair general (or CIA director). It may seem implausible, if not impossible, that he couldn't be caught, but you have no real perception of how resources may have been used, the terrain and security of the region, the tactics of bin Laden, or how anything was performed.

I don't think we have the experience that those who have actually searched for him (doesn't count if you looked in your backyard :D) to really decide whether conspiracies or situations are plausible, etc.

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They will Never Catch him .... Cause he is cooperating with U.s Goverment to give it the right to attack other Countries just like Iraq and Syria ,,,, We as Muslim People wish that Osama is dead or captured , Cause he abuse Islam .and made all other Nations Think That we are Terrorist .. we are against his war with American Goverment , and American People ... this war endless war Must stop .. cause the one who is paying is the Muslims and American People . we must stop him and George Bush .. his Partner in killing Innocent People ...

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I highly doubt its lack of trying, there are still marine and army units searching for him on a daily basis. Its just a regional issue.

1. He doesn't want to be caught.

2. He has local support on the Afghan side, and both local and higher-up support on the Pakistan side.

3. Its like finding a needle in a heystack there without 1 and 2.

GG America, he won't be likely found unless he seriously screws up.

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