Is it just Vista or Asta-la-Vista ?


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Has anyone out there from all of you Beta-testers and geeks got both Vista and OS X 10.4.1 (Intel) on the same machine to compare?

I am wandering if the OS X could threaten Vista or not? :rolleyes:

If anyone can, please include machine spec and comparisson on:

1. GUI

2. Speed

3. Stability

4. Features

5. Security

I think it will make an interesting reading.

Many thanks. :)

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How about you repost this when Vista is actually final and out of beta.

Microsoft Betas are like this : Alpha = Pre-Alpha

Beta 1 = Alpha

Beta 2 = Beta 1

RC 0 = Beta 2

RC 1 = RC 0

RC 2 = RC 1

RTM = RC 2

SP 1 = RTM

So it's even more unfair to compare.

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I dont like the fact that the installer refuses to start on my machine... I still have no idea why... I think it may be because of the way my HDD is partitioned, so i will be adding a new one and trying again.

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How about you repost this when Vista is actually final and out of beta.

Microsoft Betas are like this : Alpha = Pre-Alpha

                                          Beta 1 = Alpha

                                          Beta 2 = Beta 1

                                          RC 0 = Beta 2

                                          RC 1 = RC 0

                                          RC 2 = RC 1

                                          RTM = RC 2

                                          SP 1 = RTM

So it's even more unfair to compare.

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o oh you are funny :rolleyes:

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i really don't like vista so far.

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It's still really early ... There will be many more builds to come, and I'm sure it'll get better.

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o oh you are funny  :rolleyes:

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It's not meant to be funny. He's right.

The purpose of this thread is because both are technically still in developement right? Lets see some info!

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Nope. Tiger is final, Vista is far from.

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Has anyone out there from all of you Beta-testers and geeks got both Vista and OS X 10.4.1 (Intel) on the same machine to compare?

I am wandering if the OS X could threaten Vista or not? :rolleyes:

If anyone can, please include machine spec and comparisson on:

1. GUI

2. Speed

3. Stability

4. Features

5. Security

I think it will make an interesting reading.

Many thanks.  :)

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OS X and Vista are nothing alike. Read Paul Thurrott's recent article on UI inconsistency (http://internet-nexus.com/) for your GUI question. Speed will definitely increase with Vista. From what MS has said, it will boot in like 10 seconds, something OS X cant do. Other than that, speed depends on the processor, ram, gpu, and hard drive (as well as other factors). Stability depends on the application, as the OS has no control over it. OS X can remain stable even when a program crashes. Windows is just slightly below that. From MS's statements, it seems as though Vista will try to fix crashes before they jack things up. As far as features go, we can't tell because MS always adds stuff before the release of their OSs. Security is also another thing we cannot predict. Vulnerabilities usually are discovered after the operating system is put into mass distrobution. However, Vista is supposed to have a smaller attack surface, thus increasing security. OS X is pretty much secure because there aren't enough users to actually make hacking it worth while.

To put it simply, just wait and see. Everyone else is waiting, be patient.

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macs don't have threathening viruses

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If most people started using Macs, who knows what would happen. Hackers' focus would turn right over to Apple and it would be the same or worst than Windows.

Windows Vista is far from the final or even beta2, and there should be no comparing yet. Just go look at Whistler Beta 1!

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personally i dont give 2 monkeys about vista its a pile of s**t now and it will be a pile of s**t when it gets released. Welcome to windows ME 2006 people :crazy: seriously who cares about vista or osx ?

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How about you repost this when Vista is actually final and out of beta.

Microsoft Betas are like this : Alpha = Pre-Alpha

                                          Beta 1 = Alpha

                                          Beta 2 = Beta 1

                                          RC 0 = Beta 2

                                          RC 1 = RC 0

                                          RC 2 = RC 1

                                          RTM = RC 2

                                          SP 1 = RTM

So it's even more unfair to compare.

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Why do I get the feeling that I would have to be BLONDE to understand this?

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What's there to threaten? OSX is a good released product and Vista is in Beta 1 - by Beta 2 most of the cool new stuff will finally appear in Vista. Have patience.

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Vista does not have to compete with Tiger, it has to compete with Leopard. It is my belief that Apple will take one out of MS's playbook and look at the features of Beta 2 and make sure Leopard can do that and more. Apple has proven with full control over their hardware, they can have a faster development cycle.

OSX on x86 is a hacked version that does not have anywhere near full compatability (no rosetta). Anyone with a dev. computer is under NDA. Initial reports are it is fast... very. We all know Apple has plans to release Leopard on something other than what Intel has today. I expect it to be their next-gen processor in dual-core. Right now, I don't think it is possible to do a true comparison.

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How about you repost this when Vista is actually final and out of beta.

Microsoft Betas are like this : Alpha = Pre-Alpha

                                          Beta 1 = Alpha

                                          Beta 2 = Beta 1

                                          RC 0 = Beta 2

                                          RC 1 = RC 0

                                          RC 2 = RC 1

                                          RTM = RC 2

                                          SP 1 = RTM

So it's even more unfair to compare.

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I think you're being a little harsh.

_--boocher

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So far Windows is working theyre behinds off to get windows in tip top shape this is a beta, and for a beta version it is nice, i like, but i also like osx86, along with RedHat, they all have there ups and downs, the only problems with windows is that more ppl use it, its what more ppl are accustoned to, so hackers see more vunerabilty to windows, and thats what most hackers learn off them selfs, The problem with OSX is that its too damn expensive, and the downers for linux is that there too many linux os's and they are always coming out with a new one. Trust me when i say this it is hard for windows to keep up with "us" and they are trying, and i think that they will prove it in the final Relase of vista, and i think they did a hell of a job on this beta.

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Has anyone out there from all of you Beta-testers and geeks got both Vista and OS X 10.4.1 (Intel) on the same machine to compare?

I am wandering if the OS X could threaten Vista or not? :rolleyes:

If anyone can, please include machine spec and comparisson on:

1. GUI

2. Speed

3. Stability

4. Features

5. Security

I think it will make an interesting reading.

Many thanks.  :)

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Only if you own a Mac. Since a Mac will be able to run both operating systems. A standard pc will only be able to run Windows Vista. Sorry pc users but Apple will not allow Mac OSX to run on standard pcs' legally, out of the box. One advantage to owning a Mac. You can run all three operating systems, Windows, Mac OSX , and Linux. The only advantage though!.

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When will this end???

Another thread where someone is trying to compare a Beta OS to a released OS. Comparing Vista to Leopard doesn't do any good, either.

It's really either deliberate trolling, or perhaps a user who is so new to Neowin that he hasn't had his fill of idiotic comparisons. The former should be slapped. The latter should be forgiven, and lighlty scolded for a glaring error in logic.

For all of you who have commented that Vista is sh*t or trash, or some other vastly uninformed pejorative: use OS X or Linux, which are both good, and certainly useful for particular purposes.

And wasting the second or so that it takes to type out "Asta La Vista" or some other monumentally gay cliche when referring to Vista, doesn't make you cool or special . . . unless you took the little bus to school.

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