Dai Lafing Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Hi there, Im new to this fourm looks very advanced and got lots of people who know what there talking about here. I have windows Vista Beta 1. It installed (Took Ages) and now i just dont know were to begin... I thaught it would look alot nicer than this...So this is why i ask what this glass thing is that everyone is talking about... Please can someone say what it is, and how to get it...My Gfx are fine... Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 what video card are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Lafing Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 what video card are you using? 586405985[/snapback] ATI Rage 128 PRO Think it's a 64MB Vid Ram But if this isent adiquate i can put in an ATI Radeon 9200 So, how do i get the glass options up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojIrOu Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 i'm not sure on this one but i think it requires a directx 9 card. the 9200 is an dx8.1 card but you can try anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Correct it requres a DirectX 9.0 Compliant card. The rage 128 is way out of date as is the 9200. So you wont get any of the purdy effects. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Lafing Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 i'm not sure on this one but i think it requires a directx 9 card. the 9200 is an dx8.1 card but you can try anyway. 586406035[/snapback] Listen, realy... I apreciate the hepl there, but how do i do it...what is it...i just know its name...and its meant to be good...please tell me what im looking for...anything...please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsolete_power Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 (edited) ATI Rage 128 PROThink it's a 64MB Vid Ram But if this isent adiquate i can put in an ATI Radeon 9200 So, how do i get the glass options up? Dude what kind of piece of **** computer r u running?? ATI Rage 128 Pro is at least 6 years old, no matter how long you try to make the glass effect work it will not. I reckon ur computer is around 800 mhz right? Don't even bother with vista until you get a new computer or upgrade this old one you seem to be running. Also the Radeon 9200 is a DirectX 8 compliant card and as you require a DX9 card you are out of luck yet again. What are the specs of your computer? CPU, RAM, FSB... Edited August 20, 2005 by fred666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 from wikipedia AeroVista will include a completely re-designed user interface, code-named Aero. The new interface is intended to be cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing than previous Windows, including new transparencies, animations and eye candy implemented similarly to Mac OS X's Quartz Compositor. As of yet, little or nothing has been shown of Aero in public/leaked builds. However, Microsoft makes it clear that the changes are by no means all superficial - the improved aesthetics will re-inforce faith in Windows platform and keep potential switchers from leaving the OS. and the glass is just a skin for it. Kind of like windows XP came with new skins that look like they where made for a preschool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Lafing Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 Thank you... So, supposing i had the good gfx card...How would one turn this feture on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code.Red Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 It would either be working on install already, or you get the newest drivers that ATI or Nvidia have released for Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkellner Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 http://www.tweakvista.com/TweakVistaUtility.aspx https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=351372 One idea, possibly the best idea, would be to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE BEFORE POSTING. Remember that next time, and you probably _should not_ be using a, unfinished version of windows if you can't figure simple things like this out on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkishdelight Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 In a standard Vista install (or at least my install), Glass is automatically turned on if you have a compatible card. Your card isn't compatible with DX9 (and therefore Glass), so it's impossible to turn it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 (edited) You would just need the proper drivers and it should turn on. here is what it looks like enabled (screenshot stolen from another thread) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6846/wi...1r1s6png5zt.jpg fred666: Large image de-linked. Click if you want to see it. Edited August 20, 2005 by fred666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Lafing Posted August 20, 2005 Author Share Posted August 20, 2005 http://www.tweakvista.com/TweakVistaUtility.aspxhttps://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=351372 One idea, possibly the best idea, would be to USE THE SEARCH FEATURE BEFORE POSTING. Remember that next time, and you probably _should not_ be using a, unfinished version of windows if you can't figure simple things like this out on your own. 586406097[/snapback] Well thanks everyone, but this guy i cant thank at all because rather than helping you simply insult my intelagence. Well, im affraid up yours mate. I did look for a search and couldnt find one. Everyone is a n00b at some point and once were you. And if you need to be told this from a n00b with less than 10 posts at your level! you need to open a new accound and start again, but this time be in learning mode. So grow the hell up... Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrymmWolf Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Well said Dai Lafing, it would appear that some of these folks think that the "Search button" is the "be all to end all" around here. Well in some cases searching Neowin yields poor results,I know I've been around quite awhile now. Rather than just jump all over someone try to be a bit more considerate, offer up some of that knowledge you have, and rather than showing your ignorance & telling a person to "Search" This is afterall, (at least when I signed up) a community. And as mzhao stated, given that your card supports it, it would already be active after install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Veteran Posted August 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 20, 2005 (edited) Sorry you've had a bad first experience, welcome to Neowin. However, when replying with comments such as... you simply insult my intelagence ...it just sounds better if you spell intelligence right. Your 9200 is a DirectX 8.1 video card, so it won't display Vista's effects. Just enjoy playing around with the various features of the beta, and then when the time comes you can break open your wallet and buy a new card that will be compatible. Whether you like the Vista skin as it is now doesn't matter, it'll change significantly before RTM. What's exciting though is the possibilities for third-party skins with the underlying technology. Just read your faceparty... very... interesting. http://www.faceparty.co.uk/dai_lafing Edited August 20, 2005 by Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 20, 2005 It's been said many times, many ways but neither the ATI Rage 128 nor the Radeon 9200 is new enough to enable the advanced glass-type effects in Vista Beta 1. You need a DirectX 9 complaint video card. Now that that has been said, go easy on the new users, please (or if possible, everyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 (edited) I'll gather up all the info for you, Lafing, and condense it thus: What you need to run Vista with Glass effects, typically: 1) "Modern" AMD or Intel cpu. This means something around the 1.0-1.2ghz range for decent performance (but some would insist on 1.6ghz.) Although you might get away with something a bit less. RAM should be around 512mb. Perhaps 256mb will cut it, but that's pushing it. 2.) A DirectX-9 compliant videocard for glass effects to run. Glass effects require certain graphical techniques - trasnparencies and such, and only a DirectX-9 card will run them, although Vista will run just fine wth glass effects disabled on non DirectX-9 cards. DirectX-9 compatible cards are avaialble anywhere, and can be quite affordable. Both ATI and Nvidia make them currently, and have made them for over a year. It is recommended that your DirectX-9 compliant card comes with 128mb of RAM. Even if you have an ATI Radeon 8500 with 128mb of RAM (like me), that still runs current 3D games quite well, if it isn't DirectX-9 compliant, it can have all the RAM and clock speed in the world and it *still* won't run the glass effects because it lacks certan key features (such as pixel shader 2.0.) Think of it as a car or truck: you can have the baddest 5.0 litre V-8 in your neighbourhood, but if it doesn't have 4 wheel drive, you won't be able to go off-roading with it. 3.) When you run Vista with a DirectX-9 card, you might have the glass effects turned on automatically. Otherwise, you'll need to download the correct Vista drivers from ATI or Nvidia, depending on whether you have an ATI or Nvidia card. NOTES: Remember: Windows Vista, *without* glass effects, will run on nearly any PC, even older ones (within reason of course - I doubt a 600mhz cpu is enough.) Although you'll still need enough RAM. You'll simply get the regular visual effects, like you have right now with XP. There's even a classic mode. I'm assuming, however, that a 64mb videocard (or similar integrated video) should be part of such an older system. Vista will run in several graphical modes, called "tiers" (somewhat inaccurately.) These tiers range from very simple "classic" mode visuals, right up to the impressive glass effects. The tiers that are available to you are determined by your hardware, particularly your videocard. The top 2 tiers (out of 4, I believe), are the eyecandy tiers, and will require a Directx-9 card, as well as more RAM (both on the card and on your motherboard), as well as a faster cpu (to a lesser extent.) You get the idea, I'm sure. Lists of DirectX-9 videocards from Nvidia and ATI are available around the web. Simply search for them. Alot of them are quite affordable. As for other brands like Matrox, they might not have any Vista drivers at all yet. A typical system that will run Vista well (neither the lowest spec nor the highest spec): AMD Athlon XP3000+ 1gb of RAM ATI Radeon 9700 128mb I hope that helps. Cheers. Edited August 20, 2005 by LTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Wow. That was informative. Should be pinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hey i have some screen shots for the glass that will be in vista. NOTE: this is the BETA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiiragi Tsukasa Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 You would just need the proper drivers and it should turn on.here is what it looks like enabled (screenshot stolen from another thread) http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6846/wi...1r1s6png5zt.jpg fred666: Large image de-linked. Click if you want to see it. 586406103[/snapback] You might want to download the nVidia/ATi alpha drivers. They'll make the blurring work better (graphically and preformance wise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hey i have some screen shots for the glass that will be in vista. NOTE: this is the BETA 1 586423143[/snapback] This is old. You can find them everywhere. Post a link instead. Manually updating drivers is your best bet to get your devices to work alright, but if you don't have a DX9 capable card, don't even try ... This is a next-gen OS people, cheap ****ty cards won't work with them .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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