Code.Red Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 like a army of firefox fanboys. They came, they saw the anti-firefox comment, and they took his *ss down1!!!11!! 586435753[/snapback] lol, well, I still don't see how it is bloated, I would say it's pretty lite, without any extensions anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Hey dont you agree? i think ie7 is alot better than firefox coz i think firefox is too bloated now. i wish they made a nice LITE version like ie7. Then i would go back to firefox. also a nice theme wud be good. In addition, you lose ten points for thinking that Firefox is bloated. :p /grammar nazi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasker Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 the only thing that ie7 is best than firefox is in the speed to start, like ie6, that's the only detail that I see. other than that ie7 is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscure_detour Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Opera > :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naap51stang Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 When you learn how to properly use the English language, perhaps you can phrase a more intelligent conversation. I hope you never fill out a job application with the grammar and english you used here. :alien: Hey dont you agree i think ie7 is alot better than firefox coz i think firefox is too bloated now. i wish they made a nice LITE version like ie7 :DThen i go back to firefox also a nice theme wud be good :) 586435555[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocstar Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 ^^ Lol I love it how someone just comes in and puts some more gas on the flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Lol I love it how someone just comes in and puts some more gas on the flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjeeeboy Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 This thread is absolutely hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 In addition, you lose ten points for thinking that Firefox is bloated. :p /grammar nazi 586435832[/snapback] that's not helpful. Opera > :yes: 586435838[/snapback] please do not troll. you have a pm waiting for you. stay on topic and no trolling. if you can't handle it, i'll have to close the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 I bought Opera 8.x when it came out. It is fast and secure. And with the paid for opera, I can create two personal toolbars (26 websites or more) so I rarely click on the bookmarks file. And the RSS icon on the address bar is super easy to use. 586435900[/snapback] i'm glad you like it, but that's off-topic. for everyone: please read this. we have a no-trolling policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebest Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I bought Opera 8.x when it came out. It is fast and secure. And with the paid for opera, I can create two personal toolbars (26 websites or more) so I rarely click on the bookmarks file. And the RSS icon on the address bar is super easy to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 How is it off topic to discuss a browser in a thread about browsers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebest Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 i'm glad you like it, but that's off-topic.for everyone: please read this. we have a no-trolling policy. 586435905[/snapback] Sorry. I'm new. Won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted August 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 26, 2005 How is it off topic to discuss a browser in a thread about browsers? 586435911[/snapback] A typical example of trolling would be:Question from IE user: I am having a problem with IE loading popups even though the Google toolbar is set to block them, what can I do to fix it?" Answer from Firefox user: Get Firefox! this is especially clear when the post advertises or promotes another browser without talking about the relevant browser, in this case, firefox. such a post, though it may go into the details of opera, does not answer any question about firefox's bloat or lack thereof. Sorry. I'm new. Won't happen again. 586435917[/snapback] no worries. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathray Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 How is it off topic to discuss a browser in a thread about browsers? 586435911[/snapback] Nvm... dreamz is too fast :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chavo Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I don't use firefox, but I wouldn't call it bloated. People over use the term bloated, they use it when they can't think of another way to express what they don't like about some software. That means just about all of you people here at Neowin. It's just lonely people trying to belong and feel needed. They jump on every bandwagon that comes along. Neowin is the support group and bashing software a security blanket. If you step back and take an objective look at this, you see how ridiculous it is. I don't use Firefox because it's UI is a mess. I also got tired of having to make a new profile every new version, or every month or so, just to fix a problem with the browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK. Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Same here, I don't think it's bloated: I prefer IE7's tabs, does anyone agree? I think they're much easier, not to navigate but to open, no menu's, just a click I always knew something good would come of Internet Explorer, and people would find something they like about it over other browsers :D :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obscure_detour Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Ok so lets actually talk about Firefox being bloated. Download Firefox and install it and tell me it's bloated. You can't, seriously, IE comes bloated with installation of Windows. Yes I've used IE7 beta and it's not much. They just stole a lot of ideas that other browsers have been using for quite sometime now. They just implemented them into IE, quite horribly might I add. The implementation could've been done much better. Clicking to create a new page in IE7 isn't an advantage, as with Firefox simply hitting Ctrl+T or in Opera Ctrl+N would solve that problem. On that note. I will agree with chavo. Firefox isn't bloated, but the UI is kinda messy. If you really think Firefox is bloated then maybe you should figure out how to customize it to your needs. Believe it or not, it's very customizable, just not very accessible to the average user. Opera is nice also, easier to customize than Firefox. Clean UI, and can get rid of or add anything in the UI you see fit, with just a few clicks. And you don't have to install extensions to do simple things. Heh. But seriously saying Firefox is bloated is like saying MS is a small company. It's relative, at least... obscure detour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MulletRobZ Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Firefox bloated? Are ya on crack? It's just perfect for my needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm454 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I generally like applications to do exactly what they say on the tin. So for a web browser, that means to actually be able to just browse the web. IE is fine if you're ok with it's awful standards support and it's ties to the core of the operating system. Firefox is fine if you're willing to put up with it's open source characteristics. For me that means constant updates (i.e. new profiles, as mentioned earlier), poorly designed UI and the general 'fragile' feeling it gives. For me, I want my browser to browse - not to provide me with lots of addons and this and that, or custom browser bars and stuff. I've come to just adore Safari. It just.... well.... browses! No extentions. No browser bars. (No popups ;)) And if I don't want it, I could just drag Safari.app to the Trash. These are just my personal opinions. :happy" PS. Unfortunately I do have to keep Camino on the system as a backup if a site I like isn't using standard CSS stuff. :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvo Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 What in the world are you smoking. I love FF, i like its cross compatibility and it adheres to standards a lot better then IE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Firefox is fine if you're willing to put up with it's open source characteristics. For me that means constant updates (i.e. new profiles, as mentioned earlier), poorly designed UI and the general 'fragile' feeling it gives. Personally I fail to see how constant updates are a problem, but you do realize that they are optional. If you'd prefer IE's method of very rarely being updated just don't install them. As for the UI, I think it is very well designed, and I have no clue how a browser can feel fragile but it seems fine to me. For me, I want my browser to browse - not to provide me with lots of addons and this and that, or custom browser bars and stuff. Uh, then don't install them. The extensions are completely optional as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm454 Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 TRC: Touch?:)) Just, with Safari, I don't need to customise the view to get what I want. It just does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Help Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Same here, I don't think it's bloated: I prefer IE7's tabs, does anyone agree? I think they're much easier, not to navigate but to open, no menu's, just a clickI always knew something good would come of Internet Explorer, and people would find something they like about it over other browsers :D :p 586435950[/snapback] The top add tab icon on the bookmarks bar is from firefox's default customize menu (right click > customize) The bottom one (the one on the tab bar is from an extension called tabbrowser preferences Get it here: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=158) That way, you can open a new tab in firefox with just a click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihchiun Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I don't think Firefox is bloated, but on occasion it starts sucking RAM and gets slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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