mrchetsteadman Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Really think about it. We all are. You can't tell me you haven't seen a person of another race and had a prejudiced thought. Maybe not racist, but prejudice. Be honest to yourself. I have seen a white person before and thought they were racist because the way they looked at me. I have seen an Asian person and thought they knew karate. I have seen a Mexican person before and thought they own one car that 18 people try to fit in... It's the media I swear. I didn't realize this till lately. EVERYONE is prejudice. It's human nature. Now go ahead and lie to yourself and vote no... Oh yea, EXPLAIN YOUR ANSWER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 8, 2005 I lied. As long as we are talking about race then I don't think I'm prejudiced. If were talking about class then that's another story. I'm a socio-economic snob. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZurk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 No, I'm in denial...? Stupid poll. How about no im not and never will be instead of accusing some one of being in denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 8, 2005 Subscriber² Share Posted September 8, 2005 I 100% agree. Prejudice is human nature, as it is part of our defence mechanisms. You see a bloke walking down the road with a gun - prejudice tells you he may be dangerous, because you have made a judgement call. And look, walking down the road I see a black/asian/white guy... I will 100% have a prejudiced reaction. Even if it's "Oh, he's black, man that's racist to even distinguish", I have judged his reaction to my own. Prejudice is NOT bad. It's natural. Heck, most of my prejudices are based upon what I have experienced before, and then putting that in the context of what I am experiencing now. That's called LEARNING. It's how you act upon the prejudices that is good/bad - not the prejudice itself. Prejudice != Racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Prejudice is an aspect of vanity, so it's commonly felt alongside pride or insecurity. But to make this poll specifically about racial prejudice will skew the results and more or less just make people angry with you. Plus what nj said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZurk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Now listen. Maybe its because im a white guy who has happen to grow up in a black/hispanic neighborhood but I never judge a book by its cover and its a sad world when people say its just human nature. I am no better or worse then anyone else. Life just shifts diffrently for some then others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Battery Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Everyone is prejudice toward something, may even be from fear. Its in our nature to wonder about things but its when you act on those feelings that its a problem. I wonder why whites are always the racists though? Ive seen Asian guys being racist to white people but never on television, its always the other way around, that annoys me. The media as a whole does seem to have a lot to do with it. I wonder if in 100 years we will all still be going on about race of if finally we will have sorted it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 No, I'm in denial...?Stupid poll. How about no im not and never will be instead of accusing some one of being in denial. 586495469[/snapback] You are in denial. I can't be mad at you because you haven't realized it yet. Like njlouch said, it's human nature. It's how you react that determines if you are racist or not. If I see a white guy in ambercrombie and fitch, I am gonna think he listens to matchbox 20 or something. And if someone see's me with my baggy jeans, they will think I listen to hip-hop. Which is true. But they don't realize i listen to Maroone 5 also... "THIS LOVE HAS TAKEN IT'S TOLL ON ME, SHE SAID GOODBYE TOO MANY TIMES BEFORE!!!" :p I 100% agree. Prejudice is human nature, as it is part of our defence mechanisms. You see a bloke walking down the road with a gun - prejudice tells you he may be dangerous, because you have made a judgement call.And look, walking down the road I see a black/asian/white guy... I will 100% have a prejudiced reaction. Even if it's "Oh, he's black, man that's racist to even distinguish", I have judged his reaction to my own. Prejudice is NOT bad. It's natural. Heck, most of my prejudices are based upon what I have experienced before, and then putting that in the context of what I am experiencing now. That's called LEARNING. It's how you act upon the prejudices that is good/bad - not the prejudice itself. Prejudice != Racism 586495473[/snapback] Thank you sir. It's not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 Now listen. Maybe its because im a white guy who has happen to grow up in a black/hispanic neighborhood but I never judge a book by its cover and its a sad world when people say its just human nature. I am no better or worse then anyone else. Life just shifts diffrently for some then others. 586495496[/snapback] Oh no, I NEVER judge a book by it's cover. Well, we all do. If you don't know someone, you have an idea of who they are by the way they walk or talk so yes you do. Question, what type of person do you think I am? Answer that... Everyone is prejudice toward something, its in our nature to wonder about things but its when you act on those feelings that its a problem. I wonder why whites are always the racists though? Ive seen Asian guys being racist to white people but never on television, its always the other way around, that annoys me. The media as a whole does seem to have a lot to do with it. I wonder if in 100 years we will all still be going on about race of if finally we will have sorted it out. 586495501[/snapback] Hopefully this will be gone in 100 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 8, 2005 I disagree. I do not think prejudicial feelings are natural and I do think they are a slight form of racism. Do you treat people with green eyes differently then you treat people with blue eyes? No. Why are we so focussed on skin colour then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 8, 2005 Subscriber² Share Posted September 8, 2005 The fact that you say you are no better or worse than anyone else is a form of prejudice. You have judged their worth according to your own and set it as equal. Maybe its because im a white guy who has happen to grow up in a black/hispanic neighborhood <- Prejudging that others here may have not grown up in such a community. You may not be negatively affected by it, but EVERYONE is prejudiced. It doesn't mean liking/disliking others, just making assumptions based upon what you believe to be true. It's a model that the mind HAS to work to in order for us to learn. Red cake 1 tastes nice, Green cake 1 tastes bad, Red cake 2 tastes nice, Green cake 2 tastes bad, Red cake 3 tastes nice, Green cake 3 tastes bad... Red cake 4 or Green cake 4, you choose? We identify patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZurk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know whoyou are or what you do for a liing or what color your skin is. And even if I did id still respect what your saying in this post. I just don't happen to agree with it. Now me and fred666 don't agree often but I am taking his side on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 8, 2005 Red cake 1 tastes nice, Green cake 1 tastes bad, Red cake 2 tastes nice, Green cake 2 tastes bad, Red cake 3 tastes nice, Green cake 3 tastes bad...Red cake 4 or Green cake 4, you choose? We identify patterns. 586495522[/snapback] I have identified a pattern that I like some whites and not others. I have identified a pattern that I like some blacks and not others. I have identified a pattern that I like some asians and not others. I have identified a pattern that I like some south asians and not others. I have identified a pattern that I like some middle easterners and not others. I have identified a pattern that I like some africans and not others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 Prejudice is an aspect of vanity, so it's commonly felt alongside pride or insecurity. But to make this poll specifically about racial prejudice will skew the results and more or less just make people angry with you.Plus what nj said. 586495483[/snapback] Yea I see what you mean. People are already taking it the wrong way. But that's life. It isn't racism at all. that's saying you HATE someone without knowing them. I would not start a conversation about Jay-Z with someone that has on a slipknot t-shirt. As I said before, THINK ABOUT IT! You are but you may not realize it. Why do you think almost all asians in movies are assasins? And they know karate? Ans all arabs are cab drivers or oil tycoons that kill people? Or kwik-e-mart owners? It's LIFE get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrchetsteadman Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 I disagree. I do not think prejudicial feelings are natural and I do think they are a slight form of racism.Do you treat people with green eyes differently then you treat people with blue eyes? No. Why are we so focussed on skin colour then? 586495516[/snapback] No no no... You guys are getting it wrong. It's not about LIKING someone. It's just...argh!!! Let me get my thoughts together... :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZurk Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I don't know whoyou are or what you do for a liing or what color your skin is. And even if I did id still respect what your saying in this post. I just don't happen to agree with it. Now me and fred666 don't agree often but I am taking his side on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 8, 2005 Yea I see what you mean. People are already taking it the wrong way. But that's life. It isn't racism at all. that's saying you HATE someone without knowing them. I would not start a conversation about Jay-Z with someone that has on a slipknot t-shirt. As I said before, THINK ABOUT IT! You are but you may not realize it. Why do you think almost all asians in movies are assasins? And they know karate? Ans all arabs are cab drivers or oil tycoons that kill people? Or kwik-e-mart owners? It's LIFE get over it. 586495538[/snapback] If you live in an urbanized society that is nearly 50% visible minorities then you can get over the stereotypes that are broadcast on the idiot box. I've known many, many asian people in this town and I can only think of a few that have studied martial arts (none of which are Karate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 so you say prejudice is making a decision on whether to do something depending on the appearence of a person? how else would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesmithg Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Prejudice != Racism<=== since when 586495473[/snapback] I am prejudice, I can't stand working class snobs or the middle class. Only people I have ever got on with are working class and the upper class. I don't like tinned fruit or fish food either another prejudice of mine. I found another one, people that go on and on about saying everyone is racist or we are all racist or everyone is naturallly racist, blah blah blah; Or everyone is homophobic; people that say 'I have a gay friend'; What does it matter, I tend to find those people have a problem with race or sexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semifamous Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Actually, no, I do not have any prejudice. I give everyone an equal opportunity. Let's face it: all people have the potential to be stupid. http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?...ch&va=prejudice http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prejudice My opinions of things are based on facts not "without knowledge or examination of the facts" or "formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge." If your opinions of people are based on what that indvidual has done in the past, then that's not considered prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 8, 2005 so you say prejudice is making a decision on whether to do something depending on the appearence of a person? how else would you do it? 586495570[/snapback] Talk to them? I think we were talking about skin colour and not just general appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 all the time.. its nature. but it doesn't affect how i communicate/treat/act with people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricDemon Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I'm prejudice, but I rarely discriminate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Prejudice is, as the name implies, the process of "pre-judging" something. In general, it implies coming to a judgment on the subject before learning where the preponderance of the evidence actually lies, or formation of a judgement without direct experience. Holding a politically unpopular view is not in itself prejudice, and not all politically popular views are free of prejudice. When applied to social groups, prejudice generally refers to existing biases toward the members of such groups, often based on social stereotypes ,and at its most extreme, becomes denying groups benefits and rights unjustly or, conversely, unfairly showing unwarranted favor towards others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted September 8, 2005 Subscriber² Share Posted September 8, 2005 fred666: Well, we evolved to not die from the cake example I made. Eventually you would HAVE to tend towards green cakes. leesmithg: OK, you may well be prejudiced, but not ALL prejudices are negative. Racism is a manifestation of a reaction to a prejudice, not a prejudice itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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