Dirty Diaper Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 (edited) Does upgrading your PC to what? 2GB ram and having to have PCI express and the slew of other crap worth the upgrade? I'd just buy a proprietary system with Vista on it already to get around all this crap Edited September 18, 2005 by fred666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loeakaodas Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Just wait and see, we won't know how much you "really" need until it is out and has been sufficiently tried to third party test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Given what speeds we see in unoptimized beta 2 preview builds, I can't see Vista requiring PCI Express and 2 GB RAM to be enjoyable to use. Unless they cram in TONS of bloat at the time of beta 2 and onwards, and that would be truly disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 18, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 18, 2005 [Thread Title Edited] (Please use descriptive thread titles) [Thread Moved to Vista Beta Place] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) Depends, if you don't mind Vista looking like Windows 2000 then no you don't need 2Gb RAM and a PCI-e graphics card to run it..but if you want Vista in all it's glory (i.e. you want Aero and all the other bells and whistles) then yeah 2Gb of RAM and a PCI-e graphics card (or higher) would be what you'd be looking at to run it smoothly. NOTE: While I don't have access to the Vista beta :cry: , I am aware people (in this thread) have noted Vista runs well on lesser machines, however, it's currently a BETA and by the time it reaches final it will (in my opinion) require a more powerful machine to run smoothly because it will have the final UI (what we have seen is not the final, but a a tiny taste of what's to come (if you remember what MS said a while ago, that the current UI is only a place holder for the real deal which is in BETA 2, well that if MS haven't changed thier minds again :laugh: ) all the under lying sub-systems will be either finished or if there were missing, added etc...this is purely my opinion based on previous experiences from BETA software and take it with a grain of salt :p Edited September 18, 2005 by Xerxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovingU Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 memory is very important then, i got a 2g memory installation, during daily use, it takes about 1.1g. also a cpu with hyper-threading will make the running of vista 5219 smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostdraconi Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Depends, if you don't mind Vista looking like Windows 2000 then no you don't need 2Gb RAM and a PCI-e graphics card to run it..but if you want Vista in all it's glory (i.e. you want Aero and all the other bells and whistles) then yeah 2Gb of RAM and a PCI-e graphics card (or higher) would be what you'd be looking at to run it smoothly.NOTE: While I don't have access to the Vista beta :cry: , I am aware people (in this thread) have noted Vista runs well on lesser machines, however, it's currently a BETA and by the time it reaches final it will (in my opinion) require a more powerful machine to run smoothly because it will have the final UI (what we have seen is not the final, but a a tiny taste of what's to come (if you remember what MS said a while ago, that the current UI is only a place holder for the real deal which is in BETA 2, well that if MS haven't changed thier minds again :laugh: ) all the under lying sub-systems will be either finished or if there were missing, added etc...this is purely my opinion based on previous experiences from BETA software and take it with a grain of salt :p 586542613[/snapback] In my experience Beta's usually require more resources than final products due to all the unoptimised code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahmi_r Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Just wait and see, we won't know how much you "really" need until it is out and has been sufficiently tried to third party test 586531909[/snapback] im agreeing on this comment. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krangaz Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Im running Vista pre beta 2 on Athlon 3000+, 1 gig ram and ati x800 xt, and its running great. There is no reason performance should decrease in final. Code will be optimised and driversupport will be a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_pony Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 If you need 2Gig to run an operating system smoothly thats bloody outrageuous. Even with fancy transparenceys, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 In my experience Beta's usually require more resources than final products due to all the unoptimised code 586542714[/snapback] That's exactl what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 i reckon we are all going overboard.. it will probably run fine with 512 even though ill have 2 gig lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I don't see why it would. Dell and HP sell 256 MB systems (2.4 GHz Celerons), MS certainly wants them to they be able to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreuger Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Unless they cram in TONS of bloat at the time of beta 2 and onwards, and that would be truly disappointing. Oh they will, don't you worry. That's one of their only specialties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted September 18, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 18, 2005 I don't see why it would. Dell and HP sell 256 MB systems (2.4 GHz Celerons), MS certainly wants them to they be able to upgrade. 586543464[/snapback] But Microsoft doesn't care if they get the eye-candy. They just want the basic OS to work (maybe with another 256MB stick added). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tOta Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Hope i will be a happy Linux user when Vista comes out... For me this eye candy is just not so important like rest of OS like stability and security, Microsoft IMO is just trying to impress users :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M118LR Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 It will be interesting to see how it goes between Microsoft and the PC makers like Dell and Hp as Microsoft has told them to plan on no more on board video when Vista ships. Vista is being designed to use a separate video card not one with shared memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4L1STA Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I think this is a very good move, they could provide the eyecandy with onboard video, but it'd just eat up system resources. By seperating graphics from the core OS, your computer becomes more powerful right away. And I also think that the final version will run on 256 megs of ram minus eye candy. I have XP installed on my grandpa's poor 333mhz 64 meg ram computer and it runs fine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 In my experience Beta's usually require more resources than final products due to all the unoptimised code 586542714[/snapback] most of the time yes but at this point Vista is still missing some major components which might end up slowing down the system a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsteele_7 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I've run it smoothly, no problems with 512 Mb Ram and only an ATI 9800Pro in a 4x AGP slot... I know that some things will be added in beta 2 and in the RCs but I can't see it getting too obscene.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xUnix Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Does upgrading your PC to what? 2GB ram and having to have PCI express and the slew of other crap worth the upgrade?I'd just buy a proprietary system with Vista on it already to get around all this crap 586531652[/snapback] Everytime M$ launchs a new OS the PC Hw industry is happy.. :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertov Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I'm running beta 2 on an Sony Vaio VGN-A117S Intel Pentium M Processor 735 Memory 512 MB Video Chipset ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 (64mb) Video Memory 64 MB DDR and it work well enough :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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