beta 2 has less buggies than beta1?


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beta..2...?

There isn't a beta 2 mate...it's a Beta 1 refresh...Beta 2 is far off...

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but see that 5219 screenshots post, on the right-bottom of screen, its says beta2

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That's because it's from the beta 2 branch. But we're a few months from seeing the actual Beta 2 release.

Its not either a refresh or beta 2. Its a build in between ... basically beta 1 with some things fixed plus a few extra features but for whatever reason its slightly buggier. I don't know why it says beta 2 but microsoft reps have emphasized over and over that its not beta 2.

It is considered a Beta 1 Refresh. It says beta 2 because it's the part of the build tree that will become Beta 2 when it's done (and probably soon before that, it will be forked again).

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but see that 5219 screenshots post, on the right-bottom of screen, its says beta2

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Its not either a refresh or beta 2. Its a build in between ... basically beta 1 with some things fixed plus a few extra features but for whatever reason its slightly buggier. I don't know why it says beta 2 but microsoft reps have emphasized over and over that its not beta 2.

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haha...no no...that's not beta 2...but for whatever reason it says that on the tag...that's the PDC05 Build which IS the Beta 1 refresh. If Beta 2 still worked and looked like build 5219, I'd be worried..:laugh:

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Yes it's a build between Beta 1 and Beta 2 but part of the early Beta 2 builds. This is in no way the final Beta 2 build. Besides, even if it was. It's still a beta. People seem to want everything Vista build to work perfectly. Don't expect a lot of the bugs to be fixed until the RCs.

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That's because it's from the beta 2 branch.  But we're a few months from seeing the actual Beta 2 release.

It is considered a Beta 1 Refresh.  It says beta 2 because it's the part of the build tree that will become Beta 2 when it's done (and probably soon before that, it will be forked again).

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I would guess from the tone of this guy's post and his overall lack of a clue, that he has no idea what you just said.

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We'll as NR said the build is not for branding software at this point but for the developers, code guys to work on drivers and compatible integration. Its basicly a crap shoot to see what will take and what won't in regards to forcing software into it. A program that might install and work correctly for psychoticpickle or NetRyder might not do so on my rig. I would agree also with psychoticpickle as there are as many if not more bugs in 5219, however as an end user my bugs are insignificant if they are based on installation errors of software programs not intended to be installed on this pre-beta 1 refresh beta 2 model. :blink:

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I think the difference between Beta 1 and the Pre-Beta 2 builds are that when they forked the current Vista code, they put some effort into making Beta 1 a stable release. Sure it had bugs but most of them were insignificant.

With the Beta Refresh (5219), I think less time went into working out the bugs then in Beta 1.

I still haven't gotten static IP's working, half my drivers time out before installing, the start menu doesn't sort folders to the top (though you can manually do this) and IE7 uses about 90MB of ram, making it a little slow, especially with PNG's (which cease to work if the Shockwave plugin is enabled)

But I find Build 5219 far more interesting and usable for 80% of the work I do.

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refresh or not, I tested out Vista 5219 and is really buggy as the first beta 1, is still a lot of problems in it, my processor without to open or do anything is 100% of use, they need work a lot to fix it, I will wait until Vista became RTM version, I really di not see anything great other than new icons but is still buggy as Longhorn 4076 :sleep:

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I definitely found the 5219 was slow as heck....still very buggy...and not optimized. I can't wait to see how much better beta 2 should be

IMO...you are better off just saving your time and looking at pictures from pre-beta2 versions. When beta 2 comes out then install it on your system

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Using the default drivers that come with the Iso ( no glass effects ) 5219 runs a lot faster and smoother than B1, plus like we all know, it has a lot more features. Now, when I use the LDDM drivers from nVidia the performance goes to hell. But that's because the LDDM alpha drivers are in simple words, crap.

Hell, most of nvidia's driver have been crap the past year :D

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5219 is SUPPOSED to be less stable than Beta 1. Beta 1 was polished up over a period of weeks to make it suitable for more widespread use. 5219 is an interim build, and while it was modified for the PDC release very slightly, it wasn't tested or prepared in the way that a Beta is. At this point in Vista's development, new code and new features are being merged into the Beta 2 codebase almost every day. This means it isn't a particularly good time to be running current builds. By the time beta 2 rolls around, things should be running much smoother.

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Using the default drivers that come with the Iso ( no glass effects ) 5219 runs a lot faster and smoother than B1, plus like we all know, it has a lot more features. Now, when I use the LDDM drivers from nVidia the performance goes to hell. But that's because the LDDM alpha drivers are in simple words, crap.

Hell, most of nvidia's driver have been crap the past year  :D

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Yeah this is true unfortunately. What happened Nvidia ? :disappointed:

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