theunknown Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 well ive applied all the RegKeys and yes they did enable the glass effect with the Supplied 6600GT drivers (The Supplimental's). However using these drivers i get a "Failed Creating the Direct3D Device" error when i launch chess or any other game. Before applying these keys and the original sup drivers i was using the Nvidia LDDM Drivers and altho from boot things were extremely lagged all i needed to do was hit CTR + ALT + DELETE and "Start TaskManager" after that all the lag was gone (that sounds crazy, but it worked). Anyways, yes this works however my experience tell me to use the LDDM drivers supplied by Nvidia. Atleast until such a time people can work out that Direct3D issue. -The Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLing Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 These are my settings (I did a restart after creating the registry info) Still no glass? Any help? Thanks, Jake- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This whole thread is misleading.? The machine check only works on 5048.? It doesn't do anything on the post Beta 1 builds.? I don't know what "stock" drivers are either. 586556076[/snapback] No , you are wrong, I have an nvidia 6800u card, I instlaled the vista suplimentry driver pack which is included with 5219, and rebooted, then i set the machien check dword to 0 (it never existed, nor did the key) , rebooted and Glass effect was enabled. so the machien check dword does make a difference to nvidia cards which use the suplimentry "stock" driver in a post Beta 1 Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 This whole thread is misleading. The machine check only works on 5048. It doesn't do anything on the post Beta 1 builds. I don't know what "stock" drivers are either.The theme in post Beta 1 and Beta 1 is Aero Express. We won't see the full Aero Glass until beta 2. So your description is wrong. The Glass key turns DWM on or off and does the same thing as Ctrl+Shift+F9. You are seeing Aero Express with the Glass key "on" and a plain old Xp like theme called "Metal" with Glass "off." This key does nothing in 5219. 586556076[/snapback] Yes this is wrong ive got a hand full of ppl get it to work with my advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 The suplementary drivers are Xp drivers so there are no LDDM drivers in there.? Did you install the new LDDM drivers from NVIDIA? 586556268[/snapback] No, there are LDDM drivers for nvidia in the suplimentry driver pack, i did not need to install nvidia`s Alpha driver 75.03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 No , you are wrong, I have an nvidia 6800u card, I instlaled the vista suplimentry driver pack which is included with 5219, and rebooted, then i set the machien check dword to 0 (it never existed, nor did the key) , rebooted and Glass effect was enabled. so the machien check dword does make a difference to nvidia cards which use the suplimentry "stock" driver in a post Beta 1 Build 586556246[/snapback] The suplementary drivers are Xp drivers so there are no LDDM drivers in there. Did you install the new LDDM drivers from NVIDIA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes this is wrong ive got a hand full of ppl get it to work with my advice. 586556261[/snapback] There is no machine check in Beta 1, guy. You take a DX9 card and LDDM drivers and you get Glass. End of story. You posted these reg keys as if they're the latest thing you uncovered in this build. They've been around since WinHEC 2005 and you didn't post a source. Some Nvidia cards don't have out of the box drivers (6xxx and 7xxx series) and some Ati cards with both AGP and PCIe variants don't work. However, installing an updated driver from the respective vendor will fix the problem. If you don't have a Dx9 card or LDDM drivers you won't get glass and no registry hacks will fix that. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/archive/2.../30/445346.aspx If you install Windows Vista Beta 1 on a computer with one of the listed parts, and the listed driver, you will see Glass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 There is no machine check in Beta 1, guy.You take a DX9 card and LDDM drivers and you get Glass. End of story. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/archive/2.../30/445346.aspx 586556285[/snapback] Yes if you take a DX9 card and add LDDM drivers from the manufacturer you get glass. However if you take an nvidia card, and install the suplimentry driver pack, you do not get glass, unless you set machinecheck to 0 , and then you do. How do I know this ? I did it, i didnt read it somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLing Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Are my settings correct? See previous post w/ screenie... Thanks, Jake- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 There is no machine check in Beta 1, guy.You take a DX9 card and LDDM drivers and you get Glass. End of story. You posted these reg keys as if they're the latest thing you uncovered in this build. They've been around since WinHEC 2005 and you didn't post a source. Some Nvidia cards don't have out of the box drivers (6xxx and 7xxx series) and some Ati cards with both AGP and PCIe variants don't work. However, installing an updated driver from the respective vendor will fix the problem. If you don't have a Dx9 card or LDDM drivers you won't get glass and no registry hacks will fix that. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/archive/2.../30/445346.aspx 586556285[/snapback] Yes ur right but when i installed the supplementry pack drivers from BUILD 5219 GUY! i didnt get GLASS, now i did the reg tweaks off those SUPPLEMENTRY drives and got glass. Im not misleading im giving info from my experiance. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 The suplementary drivers are Xp drivers so there are no LDDM drivers in there. Did you install the new LDDM drivers from NVIDIA? 586556268[/snapback] Yes in build 5219 there are LDDM drivers. I dont use the ones from nvidia. And i get glass thru my method. And i didnt get them from another source per say i used the tweaks from tweakvista.com And tryed some that my friend told me to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted September 21, 2005 Author Share Posted September 21, 2005 Are my settings correct?See previous post w/ screenie... Thanks, Jake- 586556316[/snapback] Yes ur settings are correct but i dont know why it isnt working for u. Did u reboot after u did the reg tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes in build 5219 there are LDDM drivers. I dont use the ones from nvidia. And i get glass thru my method. And i didnt get them from another source per say i used the tweaks from tweakvista.com And tryed some that my friend told me to use. 586556427[/snapback] also anotehr plus to using this driver, overlay video does not work with the nvidia alpha driver, but it does with the one that coems with 5219, well I can watch div xvideo using divx 6 any way, and with 75.03 I cant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexusxl Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 so if im running the 64bit version of 2519 should i create a qword instead of dword? Please reply... :p . Also is there drivers i should grab for this version for my 6800 ultra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkrgoede Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 You are an angel! It worked for me to use the registry. I have an Ati Radeon X300 card and I used the Microsoft Ati Radeon Driver. Then I made the registry keys and now I have the Glass effect and Aero! Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolly jumper Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 You are an angel! It worked for me to use the registry. I have an Ati Radeon X300 card and I used the Microsoft Ati Radeon Driver. Then I made the registry keys and now I have the Glass effect and Aero!Thanks ! 586564416[/snapback] are you using LDDM drivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetRyder Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Yeah, you can do some fun stuff with reg keys. I have Glass enabled on a laptop with a 16MB Mobility Radeon 7500. I had to use the ForceSoftwareD3D value, of course, so it does have a noticeable performance hit, but it works. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Yeah, you can do some fun stuff with reg keys. I have Glass enabled on a laptop with a 16MB Mobility Radeon 7500. I had to use the ForceSoftwareD3D value, of course, so it does have a noticeable performance hit, but it works. :laugh: 586571611[/snapback] Good im happy for all of u that got it to work for u, and shame on U raskrin! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound.Phucker Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 So I tried what you said. I uninstalled the Nvidia drivers and re-installed the Supplemental Drivers. I then entered the keys and I still dont see anything. Here's a pic. What's wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Check your drivers, Sound.Phucker (cool name :laugh:), I have 77.77 installed (Nvidia) and it works perfectly ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemistry Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Wowsers it worked dude.. Dell Latitude C640 with an ATI 7500 card.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Unfortunately, it did not work on my computer. I turned off the machine check, ended the uxss.exe and my computer screen went haywire for about a minute or two, then reverted back to what it was like before but without a background. I tried logging off and logging back in but the glass effects did not take place :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 It's too late to edit my last post so I had to make a new one :( I got it to work. I found out that my resolution (1440xsomething) was only in 16bit mode while Glass only works in 32Bit mode. Changed it to one down and BAM! Works :D Now to get the start meny transparent...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemistry Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hi Using the DWM tweaks i had Glass working on a Dell Latitude C640 with an ATI 7500 card.. Now with build 5231, it no longer works.. Any ideas on how to enable glass again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hi Using the DWM tweaks i had Glass working on a Dell Latitude C640 with an ATI 7500 card.. Now with build 5231, it no longer works.. Any ideas on how to enable glass again? 586714331[/snapback] im guessing that MS figured out how keep ppl with low end video cards to keep them from using the WinFX advantages, umm u tryed me registry edits and ended uxxs.exe and restarted it right, if not ill have to figure it how, but i dont have 5231 installed so itll be hard for me to help but ill see what i can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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