spongedor Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I'm very interested in Vista and I try to watch every movie about it with screenshots and stuff like that.. I would really like to install Vista on my PC but I don't know how usefull it'll be, so here's my questions: 1. Will softwares for WinXP work on vista (like eMule, Photoshop, BSplayer, iTunes..)? :unsure: 2. Will I be able to install it on a slave HDD with stuff on it that I don't want to delete or move? 3. I want WinXP to remain installed on the master HDD 'cus my dad will kill me if not, will it be easy to go between XP and Vista? 4. If I won't be satisfied with Vista beta, will I be able to delete it easily without formatting the HDD? if u could answer those questions it'll be gr8 and I'll appreciate it very much :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maligogo Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 1. Yes, mostly 2. Don't know 3. Yes 4. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetide Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 where is vista beta available not through technet plus or msdn as im doing a betc naqtional diploma of it practioners (software devlopment) and we where talking about o/s's as thats the unit we doing and we have to talk about future features and stuff of o/s's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I wait at least until Beta 2 of Vista, and I believe thats in November release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCheese Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes, mostly Yes Yes Yes But I would wait until at least beta 2 before using it as a main operating system. I have build 5219 on my second partition and I think its too "buggy" to use every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasker Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes, mostly Yes Yes Yes But I would wait until at least beta 2 before using it as a main operating system. I have build 5219 on my second partition and I think its too "buggy" to use every day. 586560141[/snapback] I agree, I'm also beta tester and this build is almost as beta 1, I will wait next year when the RTM version came out :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolslacker Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yes, mostly Yes Yes Yes But I would wait until at least beta 2 before using it as a main operating system. I have build 5219 on my second partition and I think its too "buggy" to use every day. 586560141[/snapback] I agree. I tried it and I am back to XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 No. You don't just INSTALL VISTA because you want to, it's a BETA for a reason. TESTERS install it to TEST IT. Plus. Whats wrong with Windows XP? Vista just adds a load of pointless effects (I love them though, yes, you all know im an osx fanboy), more compatability issues and bugs to your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpace Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 No.Vista just adds a load of pointless effects (I love them though, yes, you all know im an osx fanboy), more compatability issues and bugs to your system. 586560185[/snapback] Have you seen Vista build 5219? theres alot more to Vista then just a bunch of pretties thats what XP was to 2000. The underlying technologies have been changed, Microsoft is holding back for the final build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 No.You don't just INSTALL VISTA because you want to, it's a BETA for a reason. TESTERS install it to TEST IT. Plus. Whats wrong with Windows XP? Vista just adds a load of pointless effects (I love them though, yes, you all know im an osx fanboy), more compatability issues and bugs to your system. 586560185[/snapback] He didn't ask for your opinion on vista did he? He asked if he should or not install it. Just because you don't like it don't spread your hate for it around on neowin, grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongedor Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 well.. thank u guys I will wait until Beta 2 and then I'll install it propably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRogers Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Not really, you should be a beta tester :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mew2u Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I'm very interested in Vista and I try to watch every movie about it with screenshots and stuff like that.. I would really like to install Vista on my PC but I don't know how usefull it'll be, so here's my questions:1. Will softwares for WinXP work on vista (like eMule, Photoshop, BSplayer, iTunes..)? :unsure: 2. Will I be able to install it on a slave HDD with stuff on it that I don't want to delete or move? 3. I want WinXP to remain installed on the master HDD 'cus my dad will kill me if not, will it be easy to go between XP and Vista? 4. If I won't be satisfied with Vista beta, will I be able to delete it easily without formatting the HDD? if u could answer those questions it'll be gr8 and I'll appreciate it very much :laugh: :laugh: 586557716[/snapback] Should you? I think you should be asking can you? :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 He didn't ask for your opinion on vista did he? He asked if he should or not install it. Just because you don't like it don't spread your hate for it around on neowin, grow up. 586560237[/snapback] Yes I though I made a series of valid points. Yes I do ****ing hate Vista and Yes I have already Grown up, I'm a big boy now. So there, you big mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 BETA 1 is not public, whereas BETA 2 will be a public BETA, so wait for that. Dont hold me to it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Off topic, but can people tell me who installed Vista 5219 build whether or not new Vista model still relies on freakin' registry. Everybody is hyping how cool it looks and how cool this and the other things are, but nobody is talking whether they took out the cancer of all previous version of Windows, THE REGISTRY. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Off topic, but can people tell me who installed Vista 5219 build whether or not new Vista model still relies on freakin' registry. Everybody is hyping how cool it looks and how cool this and the other things are, but nobody is talking whether they took out the cancer of all previous version of Windows, THE REGISTRY.Thanks. 586562210[/snapback] I know, I hope they do somethig about the registry. For example, ONLY the OS is able to read/write to the registry and programs have to store their settings into files in thier application folder. And legacy programs can use a 'Virtual' registry which doesn't affect the system in any which way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I know, I hope they do somethig about the registry. For example, ONLY the OS is able to read/write to the registry and programs have to store their settings into files in thier application folder. And legacy programs can use a 'Virtual' registry which doesn't affect the system in any which way shape or form. 586562239[/snapback] I agree, I think that would be a good solution. I really freakin' don't want UNINSTALL functionality in the OS at all. We should just delete the folder and that's it. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyinnit Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Yes I though I made a series of valid points. 586562004[/snapback] No you didnt, all you did is whine on about being a Beta app for Beta Testers. And about the effects, those are not valid points. There n00bish points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotdog666al Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) No you didnt, all you did is whine on about being a Beta app for Beta Testers. And about the effects, those are not valid points. There n00bish points. 586565063[/snapback] Off Topic crap which HAS to be posted: Pfft, N00bish points are they? Well, thats pretty funny coming from a guy who thinks Intel CPUs are better than AMD ones because they have a higher clock speed!!! :laugh: Honestly.... :rolleyes: Some people on neowin are just.... arghh... Edited September 22, 2005 by hotdog963al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyinnit Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Off Topic crap which HAS to be posted:Pfft, N00bish points are they? Well, thats pretty funny coming from a guy who thinks Intel CPUs are better than AMD ones because they have a higher clock speed!!! :laugh: Honestly.... :rolleyes: Some people on neowin are just.... arghh... 586565281[/snapback] Actually no, I think Intel are better than AMD, because I have prefferd Intel over AMD for the past 6 - 7 Years. And because now AMD are a but firther up in the market you think I am going to change my mind? Secondly, as soon as you said that, I knew you had no valid comment toward Vista and so decided to take a bash at me. This is pretty much pathetic as you still havent given any valid points. So I suggest you take your girly arse elsewhere and do a bit of growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I personally prefer AMD processors, for the simple reason that they have successfully challenged the huge Intel company, and have become more than just an Intel-Clone. They are also the ones who introduced Amd64, which is now being accepted by most hardware and software makers. I think Windows Vista *is* starting to drop the registry. If you haven't noticed, the entire DWM section of the registry is gone. DWM still works though, and it seems its settings are elsewhere ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 (edited) Windows Vista is not dropping the registry. Why would they introduce the transactional-registry and registry-virtualization features if they were going to remove the registry later? You can be certain of the registry still being in Windows Vista. Due to the improved security infrastructure of Windows Vista, though, the misuse of the registry will be drastically decreased. Due to the least-privilege user access and protected administrator improvements applications will rarely have the privilege of making any system-wide registry changes (they require administrative privileges and those privileges must be manually given by the end user.) This means that there will be a lot less garbage spread throug-out the system. The transactional-registry feature also improves the registry situation a little bit - if a program queues up a list of changes to be made to the registry and any particular change cannot be executed then none of the changes can be executed (increasing stability, reducing the chances of the registry being half-updated, etc.) Unfortunately, I have not seen anything requiring programs (such as those going for the "Designed for Windows Vista" logo - though I haven't seen anything at all about that yet) to fully erase the registry entries they have created. If they make that a part of the Windows Vista logo guidelines then the registry would be a much better place. Anyways, as for the original question of "should I install Vista?": the answer is simple. If you even ask that question then you should not install it and probably shouldn't have it. Edited September 27, 2005 by megamanXplosion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I wish the registry would at least store info about the application creating the key, so you could do simple searches after uninstall to see what was left. Heck, even the uninstallers themselves should be able to do that job later then. The problem installers have now is they track registry updates, but only at install-time and usually not keys created from within the application. I think Windows Vista *is* starting to drop the registry. If you haven't noticed, the entire DWM section of the registry is gone. DWM still works though, and it seems its settings are elsewhere ... I think that was just because DWM was in early development earlier, so they had reg settings there for convenience. If you look around, you'll for example see .NET still heavily use the reg, as an example of a new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttus Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Is there a reason to install Vista, other than to try to break it/test it? i hate all the flashy themes and stuff, just slows the computer down, i have it all turned off in XP now... just wondering, are there any benefits? (altho, i do love trying to break things and find bugs...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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