xUnix Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I couldn't find the defrag software in the Vista 5219. Does anyone knows what happened? Are they going to realease a real defrag software now or we still will need to rely on third party? -xUnix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Maybe they are making Vista so that you don't have to do it :woot:. Most likley NOT though :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbiz_3000 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Yeah......even I dont seem to see it in build 5219. Atleast not through the right-click properties==> tools. Mayb they have it hidden some place, or they may b implementing the auto defragging thing that someone was talking a while back !! Hopefully, defrag becomes a thing of the past !! and I really want the search to get better..... Integrate the MSN Search with Vista soon !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted September 21, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 21, 2005 HD's under vista will be self healing remember... anyways as for defrag.. it will be back in beta 2... they've been taking tools out one at a time to redo them... if you look movie maker is still missing so is media player 11 and in 5112 most of control pannel was wierd like add/remove was not working and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inertia Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 defrag is in vista 5219 right click > properties on a hard drive and go to tools ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raskren Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Command line is still there. defrag %systemdrive% -f -v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropcircles Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 With the bigger and bigger hard drives I just wonder if defragging will be necessary down the road. If your dual booting with XP or another OS you can defrag Vista from XP side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu121 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I thought NTFS didn't need defragging as much as FAT32 did hence why defrags aren't really as important these days compared to Win 98 etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I thought NTFS didn't need defragging as much as FAT32 did hence why defrags aren't really as important these days compared to Win 98 etc? 586563551[/snapback] Nah, NTFS needs defragged still. NTFS is secure and has more capibilities for file sizes (ie greater than 4gb) than FAT32. Now I think since Mac OS X 10.3, that defrags apps smaller than 20MB. Heck, I installed Media Center 2005 on a comp, just for Media Center, and it was fragged from hell to back from minimal usage outside of the media center (i have a seperate drive for videos, the OS drive was really fragged) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu121 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Nah, NTFS needs defragged still. NTFS is secure and has more capibilities for file sizes (ie greater than 4gb) than FAT32. Now I think since Mac OS X 10.3, that defrags apps smaller than 20MB.Heck, I installed Media Center 2005 on a comp, just for Media Center, and it was fragged from hell to back from minimal usage outside of the media center (i have a seperate drive for videos, the OS drive was really fragged) 586563582[/snapback] I understand why it'd still get fragmented, but does it affect performance as much as before though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martog Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I understand why it'd still get fragmented, but does it affect performance as much as before though? 586563701[/snapback] Yeah it still does. If half of the file is in one part of the disk, and the the other half is way on the other side, the read/write head of the hard drive has to move to that porition of the disk and read the data. if fragmentation occurs, it has the same effect, filesystem really doesn't matter. Now if we were using solid state hard drives, fragmentation would be a moot issue as the drives would have no mechnical parts. It is the fact that we are using a mechanical way to store our data makes fragmentation a really bad thing. Soon as I defragged my media center pc, it speed up access time greately. Either we get rid of fragmentation, or go to solid state (prefered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re_freshing Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Bill sprinkled his "~*mAgIcAl FaIrY dUzT*~" on it so it doesn't need to defrag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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