benjeeeboy Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Based on the article posted to slashdot, it sounds like much of vista was just starting to be written late last year. (http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112743680328349448,00.html?mod=todays_us_page_one) If they can have that much progress in such a short time, I think much of what we expect are underexpectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Why not, dont u think since OSX is a better os anyways and ppl know that dont u think if they release it to any x86pc that they will make MS look, dont u think they want MS to be put to shame. 586571953[/snapback] :blink: Based on the article posted to slashdot, it sounds like much of vista was just starting to be written late last year. (http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112743680328349448,00.html?mod=todays_us_page_one) If they can have that much progress in such a short time, I think much of what we expect are underexpectations. 586572760[/snapback] Never, ever, ever, EVER reference slashdot and expect to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 (edited) :blink: 586572865[/snapback] :blink: * 2. 1. Switching user interface on the fly. Built-in MUI and users can switch to whatever language he/she wants. Is there going to be anything like this in Vista? I would LOVE this to be one of the new features. edit: After searching a little it seems to be correct ^^. http://winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp - Scroll down to bottom and look for MUI, it's only under the Enterprise/Ultimate edition :shifty: Edited September 24, 2005 by HoochieMamma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiiragi Tsukasa Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Why not, dont u think since OSX is a better os anyways and ppl know that dont u think if they release it to any x86pc that they will make MS look, dont u think they want MS to be put to shame. 586571953[/snapback] Expect a some flames in the next day or so. It's one thing to make an opinion about OS X vs Windows sound like a fact but when you do that in a rival forum it is a suicide note. I personally like Vista better than OS X, Linux, and anyother Windows. And before anyone says anything out of their ass I love OS X and I use it, but I still like Vista better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 What was that 'Project M' thing all about then? 586568251[/snapback] http://www.microsoft.com/max <-pretty sure it turned out to be this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Diaper Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 What a freaking Joke! 3 home versions!?! Guess the MS stupidity has left the software environment and is affecting any thought processes MS might have. Guess I'll buy the Home basic edition. I don't need to shell out anymore money just to make windows look pretty.What a bunch of BS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 http://www.microsoft.com/max <-pretty sure it turned out to be this. 586572950[/snapback] I thought I read somewhere that it WON'T be that Microsoft Max thingy :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mx Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Project M is NOT, Max. Project M is a research project, which focuses heavily on explorer and how we use our PCs in a visual way. It may not become part of Vista as at the moment it is still only a research project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjeeeboy Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 :blink: Never, ever, ever, EVER reference slashdot and expect to be taken seriously. 586572865[/snapback] I posted a Wall Street Journal article that was reference from there. It is a good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 What was that 'Project M' thing all about then? 586568251[/snapback] Nothing you will see in Vista....this is related to a future product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Project M is NOT, Max. Project M is a research project, which focuses heavily on explorer and how we use our PCs in a visual way. It may not become part of Vista as at the moment it is still only a research project. 586572965[/snapback] sorry didn't see this before replying :DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Diaper Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Can I ask this question?; what do you all feel about the DRM? (digital Rights management?) a consortium is trying to implement DRM into the Bios and/or Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropcircles Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 So anyway, getting back to the topic. I still haven't seen any verification on what depakote stated. I guess "depakote" has left the building or is taking his bipolor medication,.. eeeerrrr, I mean headache medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The J Man Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 november this year I think. edit: just looked on google. its now out on 7th of December. That could change again though. http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62498 586567872[/snapback] Nope.. december 05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depakote Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 So basically you're saying that Kam Vedbrat (lead program manager on the AERO team) http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=114694 is saying bullsht?? Wow, you must be on crack (or worse, if such a thing is possible) 586568181[/snapback] I wasn't being specific enough, I didn't mean aero was going to be thrown out before beta 2, I mean the aero design will be almost nearly complete by beta 2. Graphics, Coding, most of that good stuff is done now, now it's simply a matter of patching our work on it together. I'm sorry, I should of considered you all were thinking in terms of a Beta tester and not the run-of-the-mill consumer. Sorry about that! :sleep: Regardless, I'm going fishing right now. BRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dotdot Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Yeah mate, a way of fishing, dont u mean drinking? and would that be to prevent you from going on further to explain your work and what your currently meant to be implementing tweaking within the Vista Code Base? Or is it to allow you time to research the above? Sorry mate I dont normally like to point out BS but I think you may be peddling it.... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted September 25, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 25, 2005 Project M is NOT, Max. Project M is a research project, which focuses heavily on explorer and how we use our PCs in a visual way. It may not become part of Vista as at the moment it is still only a research project. 586572965[/snapback] Max was developed by the Project M team, however. Project M itself isn't a product or even a technology. It's a research project looking into the future of UI. So anyway, getting back to the topic. I still haven't seen any verification on what depakote stated. I guess "depakote" has left the building or is taking his bipolor medication,.. eeeerrrr, I mean headache medication. I think it's highly unlikely that Depakote works for MS. Most or all of his information is blatantly wrong. Anyone working at MS should know better than this. Vista (beta 2 or otherwise) willnot> require 256MB of video memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted September 25, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 25, 2005 Things you will see on the beta 2 release for sure:- New theme - New Effects fully implemented - Final explorer UI (Beta 2 is our UI freeze point) Please don't claim that anything in beta 2 will be "final." Things you might see by beta 2:- New (totally revamped) media player (AMAZING visual effects when compared to wmp9) - The first beta of Office - AOE III on shelves (sorry, I love that game) Things you won't see complete yet: - Movie Maker - Server features (server may be delayed, it looks like) - Microsoft's online music service How can server be delayed? There isn't even a date to delay it from yet. Also, we already have an online music service... http://music.msn.com - and I doubt you're aware of what's planned there either. Don't expect to run visuals on beta 2 with anything less than 256mb of video ram either.. Vista beta 2 will actually prevent you from doing this.I'll post some new scoop later.. 586567775[/snapback] Not true in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky P Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Yeah, I think your whole post is a bit of the mark mate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depakote Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Vista (beta 2 or otherwise) will not require 256MB of video memory. 586578197[/snapback] The problem with alot of the replies I'm hearing is lack of understanding. If you knew what you were speaking about, you would probably know I'm speaking about Aero glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
father dagon Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 The problem with alot of the replies I'm hearing is lack of understanding.If you knew what you were speaking about, you would probably know I'm speaking about Aero glass. 586579931[/snapback] I see...so when it runs perfectly fine in Beta form on my 128meg Radeon 9800 right now, just for giggles Microsoft is going to raise the hardware requirements and almost ensure that probably more than half of their userbase cannot experience the full capabilities of Glass... Don't even know why I've bothered to respond, it's already been proven you're no Microsoft employee or developer. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted September 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 26, 2005 The problem with alot of the replies I'm hearing is lack of understanding.If you knew what you were speaking about, you would probably know I'm speaking about Aero glass. 586579931[/snapback] Running Aero with glass effects will not require 256MB of video memory. If you work at MS, send me an e-mail from your Microsoft e-mail account. My personal account is bhpaddockATmsnDOTcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depakote Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 If you work at MS, send me an e-mail from your Microsoft e-mail account. My personal account is bhpaddockATmsnDOTcom 586580313[/snapback] Let's see.. I don't work with Microsoft PR, I don't speak to you on behalf of the Microsoft corporation. My identity as a person is anonymous for a reason. No one is going to be treated more special than anyone, an Admin here gets no more attention than a new forum poster. I've already got a pretty bad welcome, the way I'm being treated really proves why more people from my company don't hang around here, and also why this site is recognized by Microsoft as highly as WinSuperSite. The skepticism to the "predictions" is absolutely absurd -- Instead of asking me to elaborate, you critique my every move. I'de be more than happy to talk to you guys (neowin) about Vista, if you would only show a bit more optimism. I'de even say my word is probably more geniuine than something you'de get from the PR department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsheron Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Don't forget the scheduled file I/O, which will finally give different programs different I/O priorities. No longer will installing programs/copying files completely slow down the computer :). I've been waiting for this feature for years and years... 586568064[/snapback] Vista will be the cats pyjamas.......... I'll do ANYTHING to run it and run it FAST when it comes out cos i love it. I think i'm gonna drop a cool 2k on a new system just for vista...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsheron Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Let's see.. I don't work with Microsoft PR, I don't speak to you on behalf of the Microsoft corporation. My identity as a person is anonymous for a reason. No one is going to be treated more special than anyone, an Admin here gets no more attention than a new forum poster. I've already got a pretty bad welcome, the way I'm being treated really proves why more people from my company don't hang around here, and also why this site is recognized by Microsoft as highly as WinSuperSite. The skepticism to the "predictions" is absolutely absurd -- Instead of asking me to elaborate, you critique my every move. I'de be more than happy to talk to you guys (neowin) about Vista, if you would only show a bit more optimism. I'de even say my word is probably more geniuine than something you'de get from the PR department. 586580893[/snapback] Look my friend, if you're going to pretend to be from MicroHoff, then at least learn to write properly and not spel like a 15 year old. MicroHoff would not hire or have in their employment someone who had your writing ability. You'de?? i'de?? Mmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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