kojinsei Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Which would you guys recommend, the AMD Athlon XP 2000+ with the Palomino core, or the AMD Athlon XP 2200+ with the Thouroughbred core? I would like comparisons of these two processors against eachother, and along with other processors from AMD and Intel. Links to reviews and benchmarks are perfectly acceptable and help out a lot. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainashi Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 i'd go with the 2200+ but i heard it had heat problems, is that true or no? :ermm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojinsei Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 Actually, my biggest concern is the difference between the two cores, as cooling is not a problem for me whatsoever. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2xSilverKnight Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Fallen Angel i'd go with the 2200+ but i heard it had heat problems, is that true or no? :ermm: there is no heat problem with the 2200+ it use a .13 microns (Thouroughbred) technologie and it run cooler than .18 microns (palomino). 2000+ = 1,66ghz @ .18microns 2200+ = 1,8ghz @ .13microns so the bets choice is 2200+ but it's a little bit more expensive. /me wait for the barton core ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 get a 2000+ Thouroughbred core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyy4 Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Thouroughbred, because I heard that the new .13 micron processor runs cooler, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesees Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by kojinsei I would like comparisons of these two processors against eachother, and along with other processors from AMD and Intel. Links to reviews and benchmarks are perfectly acceptable and help out a lot. Here is a link to a comparison between the AMD XP2000+ and the P4 2200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojinsei Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 Yes, but what about performance? Does the Palomino core outdo the Thouroughbred core in that department, or does the new T-bred pull out ahead? Please excuse the unintentional rhyming. :p Also, look here for some information on the 2200+. It would seem to be slow by the first image you see, a snail crawling on it, but who knows. Anyone have any experience with both of these processors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 the cores are the exact same, the tbreds are just smaller, same performance, produce less heat, cheaper to make, can reach higher speeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Seb Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 You should be fast buying a Palomino core, cuz all the older AthlonXP CPUs with the old core will be replaced by the new core, as my retailer only sells T-Breds now, now there are AthlonXP 1800+ T-Bred CPUs. :devious: :devious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted July 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 15, 2002 Yeh get a T-Bred core :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck2k01 Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 I am purchasing a AMD XP 2200 processor, is it necessary to buy a extra cooling device. If so, which one should i get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted July 15, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 15, 2002 Yeh if u are buying an OEM processor then you will have to as they wont come with a cooler anyway, there are many that are good just make sure they are suitable for the speed of your processor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacbo Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Crazy_Seb You should be fast buying a Palomino core, cuz all the older AthlonXP CPUs with the old core will be replaced by the new core, as my retailer only sells T-Breds now, now there are AthlonXP 1800+ T-Bred CPUs. :devious: :devious: ive recently bough an athlon xp 1800 is there any way of telling which core i have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck2k01 Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Does anybody have any suggestions for colling devices for the Athalon XP 2200 at 1.8 gigs???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojinsei Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 Watercooling! :D I use the Thermaltake Volcano 7+. It will keep your processor frozen. http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsi...sink/v7plus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck2k01 Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 what kind of processor and motherboard do you have with the fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalo Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Go with a 1.4GHz TBird chip. Best processor I ever bought. I prefer it to my AthlonXP 1900+ in almost every aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohoy Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 ive recently bough an athlon xp 1800 is there any way of telling which core i have?you have a palomino, they dont make any other core for that speed, yet. supposedly there are t-bred's in japan that are 2000+ but i have not heard about them anywhere else.there is no heat problem with the 2200+ from what i understand there is more of a heat problem and yes there is differences. the reasoning it runs hotter although it uses less voltage and runs on the new core is that the cooling surface was cut in half. so that means its harder to cool. so yes the t-bred does have some issues in cooling. but if you go with the retail version and dont overclock it then youll be fine. if you really want to get the best value buy a 1600+ then unlock and overclock a whole lot. you can get the same performance as a whole lot more expensive processors. and i have heard some people getting up to around 1700mhz with that on stock speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 I heard there was a heat problem with the 2200+ because it ran at a higher voltage than the other T-Bred's. 2200+ runs at 1.65 volts while the slower ones run at 1.5 so therefore the 2200+ will be alot hotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vraa Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 i'd go for the palimo.. you won't ever really need the extra speed at the higher premium. The 2000+ sounds really nice. 129$ on pricewatch. also for amny mobo's you have to have a bios update for being able to use te t-breds (hope i said it right) i'm using the stock AMD fan (yeah i'm retail) and the FSB is oced from 122 to 147 and i have no heat issues what so ever. my geforce 3 is also oced to 240/540.. almost ti500 speeds i think. I'm running all stock and i reach about 50C max on a full load on my cpus... i'm pretty sure if i have artic silver 3 and two volcano 7+'s i'll be in the low 40's.. but for stock this is pretty good.. :p edit: guess i didn't make it clear why i need two those fans.. i'm a dual 1800+ err.. now 1900+ :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinal Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by vraa i'm using the stock AMD fan (yeah i'm retail) and the FSB is oced from 122 to 147 and i have no heat issues what so ever. my geforce 3 is also oced to 240/540.. almost ti500 speeds i think. I'm running all stock and i reach about 50C max on a full load on my cpus... i'm pretty sure if i have artic silver 3 and two volcano 7+'s i'll be in the low 40's.. but for stock this is pretty good.. :p FSB is stock at 133mhz on most boards.. 139mhz on some. so 147 isn't much.. I can o/c mine to 149 safely using the retail AMD fan without a problem, and no change in temp. but yer a bit of AS3 and a volcano 7+ or the NEW 9+'s would be sweet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinal Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by dacbo ive recently bough an athlon xp 1800 is there any way of telling which core i have? Yes.. look at the cpu and the chips/cache etc should now be on the top like the older Thunderbird.. here's an example from Tom's Hardware of the three CPU's and what they look like... http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q2/0206...ughbred-01.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vraa Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 Originally posted by Sentinal FSB is stock at 133mhz on most boards.. 139mhz on some. so 147 isn't much.. 147 is quite a lot for a server board to me.. and i'm quite happy because i can't go higher w/o losing system stability.. and u can go to 149 w/o more heat? wow thats awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalDJ Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 id get 2000+...easially ocable to 2200+ wont get the total performance buy hey..much cheaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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