username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 show me the review, i was going to get an ax-7 but just too expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyy4 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 My 1600+ runs at 57C, so nothing worry about... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 lol..............................i think all you guys with those unbelievable temps are lying :p:p.............my tbird 1.4 runs ~48+ on a huge alpha 8045 that's fine with since before that i had an sk6 with a delta screamer that made me deaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username show me the review, i was going to get an ax-7 but just too expensive trust me and chris............swiftech is the best................but they're pretty expensive also the mcx 462 ~$47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 you act like i dont read reviews or not up on the latest socket a cooling and just listent to what people say at neowin (not good because for a while there, the thermaltake super dragon orb which sucks was talked up so much), the thermalright sk-8 is the best you can get, all copper and a nice 80mm fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 My P4 2.0A runs @ 21*C idle, and 30*C at full load. My mobo is 36*C though :s . Also have an AMD k6-2 450Mhz, it runs 20*C idle and 45*C @ full load. No special cooling just cheapass heatsink/fan combo, it is around 29*C in my house. Also have a PIII-M (but the sensor is probably wrong) that runs @ 30*C idle, and 60*C at full load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by zivan56 My P4 2.0A runs @ 21*C idle, and 30*C at full load. My mobo is 36*C though :s . Also have an AMD k6-2 450Mhz, it runs 20*C idle and 45*C @ full load. No special cooling just cheapass heatsink/fan combo, it is around 29*C in my house. Buddy you have your sensors backwards in your monitoring software, it defies the laws of physics to have a cooler CPU temp then the case temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Nope its right, since I have 5 fans in the P4, even my other computer runs @ the same temps idle. I can feel how hot the air is from the power supply, since the mobo temp is actually the power supply temp. And the monitoring software is made by the mobo company and uses a standard winbond chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username you act like i dont read reviews or not up on the latest socket a cooling and just listent to what people say at neowin (not good because for a while there, the thermaltake super dragon orb which sucks was talked up so much), the thermalright sk-8 is the best you can get, all copper and a nice 80mm fan Actually yes, I can act like you don't read reviews or aren't up on the latest socket cooling because there IS NOT a heatsink called the sk8, it would be called the slk 800. this heatsink is very good indeed, but for anyone that doesn't want deafening noise i wouldn't recommend ANY thermalright cooler except for the ax-7. all of the "sk" series coolers are PURE copper which require extreme air movement due to it's copper characteristics. copper absorbs heat very quickly, but it does not release it like aluminum. that is why they need 7000 RPM delta fans blowing air down into the fans to break up the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by zivan56 Nope its right, since I have 5 fans in the P4, even my other computer runs @ the same temps idle. I can feel how hot the air is from the power supply, since the mobo temp is actually the power supply temp. And the monitoring software is made by the mobo company and uses a standard winbond chip. i dont know what they teach you in school in canada, but air cannot cool something down lower than the temperature of the air. The energy that the air has cannot take it away from you cpu to make it cooler, sorry but you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username Buddy you have your sensors backwards in your monitoring software, it defies the laws of physics to have a cooler CPU temp then the case temp lol again....doesn't defy law of physics...maybe for his setup it does...but if you have a peltier system or a water cooling rig it's easily achievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted July 16, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2002 that volcano 9 looks real good and i might get it. I have the normal volcano 7 now and my temp is 40C and 48C fully loaded. It's an AMD 1800+ and my case temp is about 36C. How the hell you people get your temps so low and in total reverse how is a AMD 1600+ so hot? Mine is 1.53ghz and runs cooler than you're slower chip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by s0ldats lol again....doesn't defy law of physics...maybe for his setup it does...but if you have a peltier system or a water cooling rig it's easily achievable. yeah, of course with a peltier, but not with water cooling, you cant get cooler then the air temp with water cooling unless that water is cooled itself http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?A...ID=178&PageID=3 This fact is so crucial that it?s worth repeating again. If we ignore refrigeration, peltiers, and other low-temperature alternatives, then everything we are cooling can never be cooler than our room air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted July 16, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2002 and don't water cooling brings the temp way down to about 20C for a AMD XP 2000+ or something... i could be wrong. If so then what's so good about water cooling other than it's quiet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username i dont know what they teach you in school in canada, but air cannot cool something down lower than the temperature of the air. The energy that the air has cannot take it away from you cpu to make it cooler, sorry but you are wrong Of course it can't, but the temp sensors don't lie, and I don't care how heatsink/fans work, but I see that PC Alert, SISSoft Sanda, and CPUCool report the same temps, so that is the temp that the cpu. 5 fans can made it cooler than the air, look @ the pics: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by SHoTTa35 and don't water cooling brings the temp way down to about 20C for a AMD XP 2000+ or something... i could be wrong. If so then what's so good about water cooling other than it's quiet? water cooling can only bring temps down to the temperature of the water/air, not lower unless the water is cooled even lower by an outside source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by zivan56 Of course it can't, but the temp sensors don't lie, and I don't care how heatsink/fans work, but I see that PC Alert, SISSoft Sanda, and CPUCool report the same temps, so that is the temp that the cpu. 5 fans can made it cooler than the air, look @ the pics: is there a little configuration on the program where you can change the sensors to CPU and motherboard because they are backwards, there are so many different motherboard out there, they all need adjusted in the software so you display the correct temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username yeah, of course with a peltier, but not with water cooling, you cant get cooler then the air temp with water cooling unless that water is cooled itself rofl....ok....free lessons..............in water cooling, the water IS indeed cooled itself...if you've never read a "review"of a water cooling rig like you said, you'd know that water coolers run water through a set of tubes that run back to a radiator. most radiators have refrigeration units..unless you build your own and leave it out intentionally... also, in many setups, peltiers are used in CONJUNCTION with water coolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted July 16, 2002 Veteran Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username water cooling can only bring temps down to the temperature of the water/air, not lower unless the water is cooled even lower by an outside source well yeah, that makes sense. The cold water in my house is pretty cool tho.. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivan56 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username is there a little configuration on the program where you can change the sensors to CPU and motherboard because they are backwards, there are so many different motherboard out there, they all need adjusted in the software so you display the correct temps No, because the program was made specifically for the motherboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by s0ldats rofl....ok....free lessons..............in water cooling, the water IS indeed cooled itself...if you've never read a "review"of a water cooling rig like you said, you'd know that water coolers run water through a set of tubes that run back to a radiator. most radiators have refrigeration units..unless you build your own and leave it out intentionally... also, in many setups, peltiers are used in CONJUNCTION with water coolers. a radiator cools water down to the air temperaturs, it "radiates" the heat out of the water, but the water cant go lower then the air temp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by SHoTTa35 well yeah, that makes sense. The cold water in my house is pretty cool tho.. :) heh ...my house too but the water that is used in water cooling rigs is recycled and separate from your the water system in your house. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ldats Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by username a radiator cools water down to the air temperaturs, it "radiates" the heat out of the water, but the water cant go lower then the air temp oro..... ...that run back to a radiator. most radiators have refrigeration units..unless you build your own and leave it out intentionally... edit: woooo i've spent too much time here.........................thanks all for the great information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by zivan56 No, because the program was made specifically for the motherboard. i dont know what to tell you except maybe you should read a physics book, you are wrong, that program had your temperatures backwards, that all their is to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by s0ldats rofl....ok....free lessons..............in water cooling, the water IS indeed cooled itself...if you've never read a "review"of a water cooling rig like you said, you'd know that water coolers run water through a set of tubes that run back to a radiator. most radiators have refrigeration units..unless you build your own and leave it out intentionally... where is the radiotor that has build in active cooling because i would like to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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