Does Neowin need harsher mods?


Does Neowin Need Harsher Mods?  

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  1. 1. Does Neowin Need Harsher Mods?

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Erm, yes and no. I think that a few mods are kind and harsh and do a good job of it. What Neowin needs is a team of moderators who instead of being snobby about enforcing the rules they just go.. "You broke xxxx rule, so i'm deleting/closing your post/topic"

I like certain moderators like [NFC]Wave who are kind but are good at enforcing the rules when required and they don't go around pretending that they are the second jesus and that everyone should listen to exactly what they say. I also think that a mod should quote the rule that they are referring when they delete posts or whatever.

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This is a PG-13 board and the admins wish to keep it that way. We wish to encourage members of all ages to visit us and want to make sure we give them as friendly a home as possible.

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Maybe you should slap a large warning on threads like the 'Post your funniest pictures 2005' or 'Forum fun images,' as images don't pass through any filters, and many of them have our beloved four letter words.

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I say that we should all start a rebelion against the mods/admin :ninja:

I'm kidding...nah, but seriously back on topic I personally think that the mods/admin do a perfect job here. I hold nothing against them.

Also for the record, I'm not brown nosing, just stating my opinion :)

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Yeah, the swear filter does not make sense at all. You can't say 'sh*t' or 'p*ss', but look, Lindsay Lohan is a crackwhore and a slut! I really don't think '****ing' hides or euphemizes the word 'f**king' in any way, only the most um, sheltered individual will not know the difference. Everyone, even 13 year olds, knows what '****ing' means.

Also, I am sure the pre-pubescent slice of the Neowinian demographic sure does appreciate the PornUtopia (I am exaggerating, but you get my point) that is the Jokes and Funny Stuff section. PG-13 my ass! :laugh:

End of teh rantage.

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Did it ever occur to you that maybe we can't read every one of the thousands of daily posts? Many times, if it's not reported, we just may not see it.

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Where have all the forum moderator's gone? We don't need any more global mods for sure but thinking about it, we need more forum mods. That would make moderating much easier I would have thought. There used to be loads of forum mods (or just mods as they used to be called) but now theres only a couple.

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No - the mods are fine, but I think we need a few more. I know mods can't be everywhere at once, so why not have some new mods assigned to certain parts of the site? For example, I'm almost always in the Mac section and I see more and more flaming and trolling everyday - personally I'd love to be a mod so I could filter out the crap and put some rather immature members in their place. It's not just in the Mac sections; I see it almost everywhere on Neowin. I always report it but it either takes a while for the mods to respond (understandable, but by then a flame-fest has broken out) or nothing is done at all.

There's no need for harsher mods, we just need a few more of them. *Puts hand up to volunteer*.

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Did it ever occur to you that maybe we can't read every one of the thousands of daily posts? Many times, if it's not reported, we just may not see it.

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Actually, that did occur to me... which is precisely why I chose the words in which I stated my opinion, joel. There is a lack of consistency as I see it.

Even though mark has kindly summarised the consistency-controls that are currently in place here for the Neowin-mods, I still have to state that I am not satisfied with the level of consistency in enforcing the rules here at Neowin.

And to clarify, I don't expect a single-mod to read every post here on Neowin (as that would be next to impossible)... but I certainly don't expect to hear a group of mods (55 isn't it) conceding that they can't be expected to moderate the entire board. At my last count, there were over 55 mods here at Neowin. With 55 mods I would surely expect to see fewer inappropriate posts than I currently do.

Agreed...? If you're not willing to take the time to click "Report" and type in the reason and click submit, you shouldn't be in this thread commenting on the lack/quality of moderation.

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I consider myself a 'team-player'. Hell, I have even done my share of reporting inappropriate threads. I have every right to comment on the qulaity of the moderation... especially since this is a topic open to all Neowin members:rolleyes:: I may have only joined in March of this year, but I have been reading Neowin for well over three-years now... I don't see how I am any less-welcomed than you.

For a topic that asks for opinions on the quality of moderation and whether or not mods should be stricter, I am getting a lot of grief for stating that which is on my mind...

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I've said my share of harsh things around here and have been warned accordingly. The mods are doing fine.

Of course that won't stop me from speaking my mind. If your a jackass, I'm going to call you a jackass.

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Yeah, the swear filter does not make sense at all. You can't say 'sh*t' or 'p*ss', but look, Lindsay Lohan is a crackwhore and a slut! I really don't think '****ing' hides or euphemizes the word 'f**king' in any way, only the most um, sheltered individual will not know the difference. Everyone, even 13 year olds, knows what '****ing' means.

Also, I am sure the pre-pubescent slice of the Neowinian demographic sure does appreciate the PornUtopia (I am exaggerating, but you get my point) that is the Jokes and Funny Stuff section. PG-13 my ass! :laugh:

End of teh rantage.

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i have to agree with most of what you said, i dont even see whats so wrong with swearing in the first place, so it ofends some people- if they decicde to de offended by it.

and back on topic i think the mods are doing pretty damn good job at managing 100K+ people

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I consider myself a 'team-player'.  Hell, I have even done my share of reporting inappropriate threads.  I have every right to comment on the qulaity of the moderation... especially since this is a topic open to all Neowin members :rolleyes:  I may have only joined in March of this year, but I have been reading Neowin for well over three-years now... I don't see how I am any less-welcomed than you.

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I wasn't targetting you (or anybody specific) with that statement. It goes for anybody who believes the moderation is unfair and yet refuses to click "Report".

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"please refer to my sig"

I personally don't see any problem with swearing, hell, most of the stuff these kids here in school these days is worse than what would ever be seen on neowin. I saw this one kid who was in the 4th grade and he was saying the F word more than eminem does.

I know my voice doesn't mean anything in those matters but i just thought i'd share a few thoughts.

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They moderate nowhere near 100,000 people. About 2,000 people come here regularily. If it was up to me, they should clear out all the users that have 0 posts and have been inactive for a year. Then we'd see the true member count, and not some inflated number that doesn't really have any integrity.

Yeah .. uhh, the mods. They're fine.

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First off I've read through most of the thread and concluded one thing. That we need MORE mods. Mods have stated themselves that they can't be eveywhere but I do appreciate their effort in making Neowin the great place it is. I also think we need smarter users in the sense that they REPORT posts that contribute nothing but disrespectful remarks or flames or trolls or.. (well you get the point). Well those are my 2 cents.

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I think they needs to be more mods, and a few "dick head" mods to deal with the 10 year old kids roaming the board, flaming everybody who disagrees with them. Just my opinion though.

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I think that more mods would do the job. We all know that real life is more important and some of us have kids and wife.

anyway, I don't run this site and admins know better than us what they want to do :)

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I think they needs to be more mods, and a few "dick head" mods to deal with the 10 year old kids roaming the board, flaming everybody who disagrees with them. Just my opinion though.

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The bes tway to deal with the kiddies like that is to use composure and knowledge to smack them down. Not only does it shut them up, but it also shows them how to properly make a point.

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Even though I am on 100% :pinch: JOEL!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ninja: , I still respect the mods, and I'm sure they just looooovvvvveeeeeee watching all my spamming, sorry, posts. :p :p :p :laugh: :woot: :whistle: :rolleyes:

please don't ban me!

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I'm noticing the people that are saying we suck are the one's with an already outrageous warn level... looking through the logs of some of these members I see nothing wrong with the warnings they received. It's more than likely that we just ****ed them off and actually slaped them on the hands for breaking our clearly presented rules.

To the people who say the site needs a little action and rule breakage... I'm guessing your 10??? Thats one of the most lamest things I've ever heard. People don't come on a site to be harassed by immature people. (And if your somebody who actually joins to troll/flame... then you need your head checked)

I'm one of the mods who let little things slide (most of the time), but if there is major rule breakage, don't expect any breaks from me.

I can't stand people who flame or troll. Out of my warning's I'd say over 80% are ones for flaming.

Thats where I'm harsh... when people pick on others. Other things I'm a little more relaxed on.

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Seems like this thread is mostly an excuse to bash the moderation staff even if thats not what the original post was intending. I do think more mods for such a huge site could help, but its really not neccessary. I think the mod staff is doing fine, so long as they aren't stressing from understaffment (and I know that isn't a word either).

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harsher? NO

I myself I'm a mod at another *big* site and man I really hate that some of my moderators collegues feel like gods and think they are always right.

I assume my mistakes but they act most of the times like nazis.

For example if they don't like someone then at the minimum mistake one of them makes : baaamm .... bann-o-rama

Actually I'm ashamed of them (their behaviour). Thank God not all of them act the same way.

Tolerance , open minded moderators, that's the way to go:

one example here: markjensen (Y) - always cool

Pd. I know some guys cause lots of trouble, imo it's ok to warn/ban them only if they don't follow the rules /advices.

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