Amnesia Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 i think mods dont empathize or attempt to think 'outside the box' slightly. Flame wars, insults, yes those deserve warning level increases. but other things dont, especially when a member is either a loyal and good member and needs help from the forum itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deaf Spacker Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 The mods do a fine job as it is and you'd be hard pressed to find a better forum then Neowin with the same amount of regular visitors and the same amount of content :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted October 20, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted October 20, 2005 The mods aren't always consistent when upholding the rules... it's no wonder why those who have already been warned get upset when they see mods ignoring the infractions of others. hear hear. there is an inconsistency between mods reactions. depends on the mod and on the topic - some are will in to accept a lot more if they can relate to it. but what do you expect - they are people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orgitnized Subscriber¹ Posted October 20, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted October 20, 2005 So i ended explaining it all to the guy- in the process calling his comments stupid- because of his stupidity :/ chad decided to give me a warning -based on another users comments that "i gave a personal attack"in the end the flame war continued (during which i decided not to post any more replies) and Chad ended closing the topic due to the flame war- which innitially i tried to stop :( 586698892[/snapback] I do understand what you typed here, but you don't think that the personal attacks of "stupid" didn't fuel any fire to the flame war? You can't truly say that you tried ending a flame war by calling someone (or someone's comments for that matter) "stupid". By doing that, you're simply going to aggravate whomever you are having the debate with. And it's not much of a real debate if people start getting personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticparadox Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think the mods are doing a good job based on what they have to work with. I know this is simply echoing what others have already said, but there are too many members here that obviously lied on the age verification. These are people who can't string together a decent post, don't know how to read or follow simple directions (aka The Rules). Taking a look at my profile, I've been here for 2 years. Not as long as some, but long enough to see a decline in the quality of posts. It's a shame, and I know that the staff has probably noticed the same decline, and I also know that there's not a lot of options short of banning those who contribute to the decline and looking like Nazis in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dave164 Subscriber¹ Posted October 20, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted October 20, 2005 TBH with you they are to harsh atm you get punished for the most redicoulous things now :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted October 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted October 20, 2005 TBH with you they are to harsh atm you get punished for the most redicoulous things now :( 586700118[/snapback] Might I ask what "punishment" has been issued? Most warnings are simple a PM, and you get one (or one more for some people) colored dot that no other member can see. The only time that there is "punishment" is when someone demonstrates continuted rule-violation (spamming, constant flaming/trolling, etc.), and they may get a 3-day suspension (depending on severity and frequency of violations). I hardly consider a PM and a dot to be punishment. (there is no impact to a member's standing or posting ability, and no other member is aware of this - unless the recepient makes it public in the forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dave164 Subscriber¹ Posted October 20, 2005 Subscriber¹ Share Posted October 20, 2005 Humm but a warning is more then just a warning for pathetic things such as saying "Ban him" or "noob" to quote myself and other people who have been warned. Warnings restrict alot on your abilities, such as name changing.. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZOOzzoo Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Warnings restrict alot on your abilities, such as name changing.. 586700244[/snapback] ... and I belive that is the only thing the warning level restricts. I never understood why many members complain so much about the warning levels. Warning is not a punishment; it's only a cautionary measure, issued to members who don't follow rule, in order to prevent future problems. You break a rule and you get a warning. BAM!! Nothing happens to your account whatsoever. -_-;; I much prefer the system where I get informed of my mistakes immediately so that I can prevent it in the future, than to have moderators tolerate few mistakes until I make more and get banned. As for name changing, it's not like members with no warning get to change their name every day. Name changing IMO should be done minimally(1 or 2 chances for one member) to prevent confusion to other members and especially moderators. Those with warnings, I assume, must have some kind of flamewar record or something similar, so it's natural that mods want to keep eyes on those members. The warning even gets deducted if you behave for 6 months anyway, which apparently must be very hard thing to do for some members. I'm all for warning and banning as long as the forum is kept clean. Some might argue Neowin should follow "freedom of speech" or "inalienable rights", as I saw sevelral times already, but Neowin is, afterall, owned by certain individuals and they have every right to take action to keep the forum neat and tidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimm2 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 No. Strict enough already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad.C Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 NO, not at all.. If members can't be mature enough in these forums then they should be banned outright. Being able to receive warnings in itself shows, how the team believes in second chances. I like the mods the way they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0| Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Are you crazy ? NO. What neowin needs is more FAIR mods, because some of them are NOT FAIR. And i'd like to see some older mods, because some of the mods are too young and can't handle the power trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jorge Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'd say the Mods are strict with certain things but not with others. The Monthly Screenshot thread for example. The rules indicate the following: The desktops thread is not to be used as a means to post images of a pornographic or otherwise provocative nature. We do not support a babes forum and neither will we in an unofficial capacity. Please help to keep the thread relevant and safe to browse for everyone. People do it anyway and the Mods do nothing about it. Here's an example of what I mean. I personally have nothing against female nudity but I sometimes look through the thread at school and can't be browsing it with anyone else around me from fear of people thinking I'm looking at porn. I honestly think a more watchful eye should be kept on that thread. :/ Edit: I did report the post along with another one that wasn't as...explicit but against the rules nonetheless...and this one was overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_sphinx_ Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Best moderrated forum ever, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted November 10, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 10, 2005 I'd say the Mods are strict with certain things but not with others. The Monthly Screenshot thread for example. The rules indicate the following:People do it anyway and the Mods do nothing about it. Here's an example of what I mean. I personally have nothing against female nudity but I sometimes look through the thread at school and can't be browsing it with anyone else around me from fear of people thinking I'm looking at porn. I honestly think a more watchful eye should be kept on that thread. :/ Edit: I did report the post along with another one that wasn't as...explicit but against the rules nonetheless...and this one was overlooked. 586790277[/snapback] I can't see any nudity, unless you're talking about the chicks navel, but then I guess we'd have to censor "I Dream Of Jeannie" as well in that case. Is the B&W pic the one you have a problem with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I am not a fan of the inconsistency of enforcement and what rules mods choose enforce. You will get a topic locked or deleted if you mention war3z (esp. from peer-peer), but you can mention "torrents" and even one poster mentioned getting a game early at the "torrent store." There is absolutely no concern for DMCA violations, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 10, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 10, 2005 I can't see any nudity, unless you're talking about the chicks navel, but then I guess we'd have to censor "I Dream Of Jeannie" as well in that case. Is the B&W pic the one you have a problem with? 586792271[/snapback] No, it was a different one. You needed to zoom into the top left corner to see it. One boob was covered by her hand and the other was in a shadow but exposed. I removed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locke Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 no it will affect the atmosphere severely and cripple our society permanently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 10, 2005 Veteran Share Posted November 10, 2005 I am not a fan of the inconsistency of enforcement and what rules mods choose enforce. You will get a topic locked or deleted if you mention war3z (esp. from peer-peer), but you can mention "torrents" and even one poster mentioned getting a game early at the "torrent store." There is absolutely no concern for DMCA violations, either. 586792283[/snapback] Consistency would be improved if members reported more threads. The topic that was locked was probably done so because people kept posting warez stuff and after issuing a few warnings it just became easier to close the thread. You won't necessarily see what was posted (if they were deleted before the thread was locked) and you won't know how many people got warned. That may make it appear to be inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentR Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 wel...yes :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 ...they (supervisors) don't seem to be working all that often then I guess... :whistle: :rolleyes: 586683128[/snapback] Wow...Look what I found...a site called Neowin.net! I remember this place! :p I'm pretty much here every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Ok..just read this entire thread. I didn't hear specifics on why mods suck or why they are great, so I want to know on a personal level. I want anyone who as any suggestions on how I can be a better Supervisor to PM me. If you have any suggestions/criticisms/praise, please feel free to PM me. Whatever way I can make this place better for you, or improve myself, I am willing to hear. Now, this is for constructive criticism. If I get a swearing laced tantrum.......well, lets just not go there. Help me help you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Nope they keep order and they give out warning levels when needed, don't need to be harsher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertobaggio2k Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 nope i think they do their job just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illicit Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Nope they keep order and they give out warning levels when needed, don't need to be harsher. 586810389[/snapback] Yeah, I agree. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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