jakedman790 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I had an idea and I was wondering if any smart people out there could help me out: Recently, for fun I installed the OS X86 flat.img to one of my hdds. For a week or two it ran in black and white until (by myself) I had the idea, if i could update my BIOS to one that would allow more VRAM it would run in color. Which it did, quite speedily, I might add. The only thing was the only BIOS upate I could get my hands on didn't allow me to control the VRAM it just allowed more through ( no VRAM setting ). Now, my question... in theory, couldn't I update my BIOS with one that would allow me to control my VRAM to get the glass effects in 5231? ( Vista runs, just no pretty effects :no: ) I mean isnt the min requirement 64mb? I have that... its just my BIOS, and in turn Vista doesnt recognize it untill I install the drivers and by that time, windows has been installed and it assumes I dont have enough power video-wise. just a thought :happy: -jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 You need a DX 9.0c compatible graphics chip to use DWM (Aero Glass) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y_notm Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 You need a DX 9.0c compatible graphics chip to use DWM (Aero Glass) 586698801[/snapback] More than that, you need a DX9 compatible card with a corresponding LDDM driver. Upping the VRAM on your system isn't going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedman790 Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 oh well it was an idea... I guess I'll just wait untill I get my new card [GeForce FX OC 5200 256MB] in two weeks. Stupid Car payment is holding me back from getting it this week. :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Os1r1s Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 (edited) oh well it was an idea...I guess I'll just wait untill I get my new card [GeForce FX OC 5200 256MB] in two weeks. Stupid Car payment is holding me back from getting it this week. :pinch: 586699905[/snapback] If yo are going to upgrade your card, get a better one than that ... the gforce fx 5200 is a starter card, and most AGP is down in price ... if i was you i would go with the Gforce 6600[256mb] (not the GT. The 6600 can achive what the GT can but with 128 more mb of memory, also this requires a bios flash for getting speeds over stock, if u dont flash the 6600[256] bios, it will not overclock at all, or not very much.) If u need a link for the bios post and i will link it) ... I just bought one upgrading from that card (fx5200), although it was a good card in it's time, for overclocking, etc. But if u are planning on Running Windows Vista Ultimate edition, in the future, then i would go with the 6600 or higher. Vista is very demanding on the graphics card. But then again if u are planning on using one of the lower end Vista releases then you should be ok. The 6600[256mb] Goes for around $200.00 cnd Good luck on you Journy. ;) Edited October 20, 2005 by Os1r1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 5000's are too outdated to go and buy now.My 5700 FX can run Vista, but by the time Vista is officially out, I bet ti'll run like ****. 586701887[/snapback] If anything, it will run better on the final Vista code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiiragi Tsukasa Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 5000's are too outdated to go and buy now. My 5700 FX can run Vista, but by the time Vista is officially out, I bet ti'll run like ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spclffred Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I had an idea and I was wondering if any smart people out there could help me out:Recently, for fun I installed the OS X86 flat.img to one of my hdds. For a week or two it ran in black and white until (by myself) I had the idea, if i could update my BIOS to one that would allow more VRAM it would run in color. Which it did, quite speedily, I might add. The only thing was the only BIOS upate I could get my hands on didn't allow me to control the VRAM it just allowed more through ( no VRAM setting ). Now, my question... in theory, couldn't I update my BIOS with one that would allow me to control my VRAM to get the glass effects in 5231? ( Vista runs, just no pretty effects :no: ) I mean isnt the min requirement 64mb? I have that... its just my BIOS, and in turn Vista doesnt recognize it untill I install the drivers and by that time, windows has been installed and it assumes I dont have enough power video-wise. just a thought :happy: -jake 586698788[/snapback] First of all posting that u have osx86 installed will get u in some serious trouble because ur running it illegaly, second u need alot more than VRAM to run and WINFX stuff on ur computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedman790 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 First of all posting that u have osx86 installed will get u in some serious trouble because ur running it illegaly, second u need alot more than VRAM to run and WINFX stuff on ur computer. 586703041[/snapback] Well, its all deleted off my hdd now, It wasnt nearly stable enough to use as a real day-to-day operating system. I just wanted to see it in action on a x86 processor... One of those people has to try it and see it to believe it. Anywho, you guys are probally right. Ill save up a bit more and get the nicer card so I'll be on top of things. The only reason I was looking at the 5200 is because its a standard PCI card. sure it'd be slow but my mobo doesnt have PCI-E or AGP currently. So maybe Ill upgrade my board first, eh? Thanks again, :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyinnit Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 More than that, you need a DX9 compatible card with a corresponding LDDM driver. Upping the VRAM on your system isn't going to do that. 586699195[/snapback] Not really, I have had DWM working fine on a DX8 Card in builds, 4047, 5048, 5219 and 5231. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedman790 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 Not really, I have had DWM working fine on a DX8 Card in builds, 4047, 5048, 5219 and 5231. 586703986[/snapback] By built in do you mean on-board? what card? intel perhaps? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s.L.m Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 also this requires a bios flash for getting speeds over stock, if u dont flash the 6600[256] bios, it will not overclock at all, or not very much.) If u need a link for the bios post and i will link it) ... 586700310[/snapback] can u please give me a link for the flashing issue :laugh: ... I just had my 6600 ^^ ... for 640 Saudi riyals :D (170$) ^^ but I couldn't find any temp sensors and overclocking settings :( .... can u help :( ? and by the way ... sorry jakedman790 for going off topic :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightRider Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 If yo are going to upgrade your card, get a better one than that ... the gforce fx 5200 is a starter card, and most AGP is down in price ... if i was you i would go with the Gforce 6600[256mb] (not the GT. The 6600 can achive what the GT can but with 128 more mb of memory, also this requires a bios flash for getting speeds over stock, if u dont flash the 6600[256] bios, it will not overclock at all, or not very much.) If u need a link for the bios post and i will link it) ... I just bought one upgrading from that card (fx5200), although it was a good card in it's time, for overclocking, etc. But if u are planning on Running Windows Vista Ultimate edition, in the future, then i would go with the 6600 or higher. Vista is very demanding on the graphics card. But then again if u are planning on using one of the lower end Vista releases then you should be ok. The 6600[256mb] Goes for around $200.00 cnd Good luck on you Journy. ;) 586700310[/snapback] The problem with that is that some of us, like me, have a motherboard that does not have PCI-E. Unless, there is some kind of adapter, we might have to stick to a 5-series card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecotrojan Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 erm, forgive my ignorance, I have a dual xeon server with an AGP 6600? I didnt realise that NVidia made 6600 in pci-e flavour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedman790 Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 lol a pci to pci-e adapter card, that would be nice. but i dont think such thing exsists. and dont worry about going off topic, I was going to ask him/her to post the flash thing anyway. :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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